# Werewolf (Mafia)--The Split \[Signups--In progress\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [February 13, 2009, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692 "2009-02-13T15:44:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 80
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2009, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/1581 "2009-04-09T17:50:13Z")
Yay town go town. ---
**Author:** ![DaphneBlack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daphneblack/32/5389_2.png) [@DaphneBlack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaphneBlack)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2009, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/1582 "2009-04-09T18:32:28Z")
Woooooooooooot. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2009, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/1583 "2009-04-09T18:40:02Z")
> [@Oredigger77](#): > > Sweet, one more wolf down. Kinda wonder why its night and not the end of the game though. > > Beer time though. Wait. I guess it’s night, so we can discuss this in the Day, but perhaps there are 2 ranchers and 2 farmers left, but everyone is a townie. Do we have to lynch one more time to have a winning faction? Have I even done the math right on this? ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2009, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/1584 "2009-04-09T19:22:32Z")
Yeah! Drinks are on me! Ahhh, stop spilling on me! ---
**Author:** ![Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d9b06d/32.png) [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichini_Sanshigo)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2009, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/1585 "2009-04-09T19:37:58Z")
Don’t you mean _through_ you? Mwha ha ha ha!.. Wait, I’m a ghost too. Nuts. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2009, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/1586 "2009-04-09T22:42:43Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Wait. > > I guess it’s night, so we can discuss this in the Day, but perhaps there are 2 ranchers and 2 farmers left, but everyone is a townie. > > Do we have to lynch one more time to have a winning faction? > > Have I even done the math right on this? No strategy at night. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/1587 "2009-04-10T00:11:33Z")
> [@pedescribe](#): > > No strategy at night. Yep, sorry about that. Just pass me a drink and we’ll chat in the Morning. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![AllWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AllWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllWalker)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/1588 "2009-04-10T10:51:45Z")
I shouldn’t drink toNight - I’m feeling pretty hungover. Well, maybe just a little hair of the dog. From our fresh werewolf corpse. Yeah, I went there. ---
**Author:** ![rexnervous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e9c0ed/32.png) [@rexnervous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rexnervous)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/1589 "2009-04-10T13:48:13Z")
Back from my ghostly sojourns to visit my old townmates and congratulate them on a job well done. So far. Pour me a cold one please. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/1590 "2009-04-10T15:58:16Z")
The four of you emerged, all expecting to see another corpse. But none of you are dead. No-one died! It is day. Because of the low number of players, Day will end Tuesday Noon EDT, with testerizing happening Sunday Whenever My Plane Lands EDT ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/1591 "2009-04-10T16:33:20Z")
There are 4 of us left. We have one of two scenarios facing us either our remaining wolf laid low last night to make us think they were no more or we just can’t end the game with a split between ranchers and townies. I haven’t paid attention to the alignment of the people who have been killed and I don’t really have time to go back and figure out if an even number have been killed. If we mass claim and are indeed split the game can’t end so I don’t think that is the right thing to do but I would hate to lose on a random decision. If there is one wolf left it would have to be either MHaye or Allwalker (or myself) so I think we can safely decide not to lynch Mahaloth. I think the best way to go would be to assume there is a wolf remaining. From my point of view I think we need to test either MHaye or Allwalker and then when they come up town lynch the other one. If there is a wolf remaining we are at lynch or lose but we could no lynch safely. Assuming you guys don’t trust me the best option would be to test one today when they come up town wait for toMorrow test a second and then lynch the third. If we decide to go that route I would like to volunteer to be tested. Other wise I want to test MHaye because I curious about the man that saved the town. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/1592 "2009-04-10T16:50:03Z")
Hmmmm… What possibilities are left? 1. A wolf remains and he/she did not eat one of us to trick us. Not really sure of the point, but I guess it is possible. 2. Everyone is a townie and the split is 2-2 faction-wise. 3. There is some kind of power-role that will resurrect a wolf…unlikely I think. Anyway, I suggest we test someone new, and vote not to lynch toDay if they come up town. I mean, is there any reason to not do this? I don’t really care who we test, either. I believe everyone is a townie. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/1593 "2009-04-10T16:53:49Z")
Player List (alive): Mahaloth Oredigger77 MHaye (previously Lemur###) Allwalker Player List (dead): Ichini Sanshigo (previously Athena)–Farmer Cop DaphneBlack–Farmer Elendil’s Heir–Farmer Werewolf [Undecided] Adrian II (previously fluiddruid)–Farmer Werewolf Freudian Slit–Rancher Jimmy Chitwood–Rancher Werewolf Justin Credible–Rancher Werewolf November–Farmer rexnervous–Rancher Scuba\_Ben–Farmer Seeker of Truth & Beauty–Farmer Telcontar–Rancher [Undecided] Adrian–Rancher Zeriel–Rancher Cop ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/1594 "2009-04-10T17:27:01Z")
Yep a 7-7 split so we’re probably all townies. The reason not to wait on the lynch is that it drags the game out for no reason. If we’ve killed all the wolves all that’s left is to determine which town side wins. Which is going to be basically random. After seeing Pede’s death list I’m going to go with my test one lynch the other idea. Test MHaye ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/1595 "2009-04-10T19:32:35Z")
A position recap. Firstly, we can’t have two remaining Werewolves; if there were two remaining Werewolves they’d have won. Therefore there is a maximum of one. If there was a Werewolf alive last Night, they forgot to send in the kill. If there was not, there was no kill, and the game continues because neither Town faction won. if we started with an odd number of Werewolves, we’d also have had an odd number of Townspeople, meaning that one faction would have started with more players than the other. Speaking personally, I’m not averse to an honourable draw. After all, officially DarkCookies and I are still at each other’s throats in Ancient China, voting for each other during the Day and attempting to kill each other at Night - and failing. Mahaloth is the only one of us who has been tested. Any of the other three of us makes a reasonable test candidate.1q ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/1596 "2009-04-10T20:15:01Z")
Good point I hadn’t considered the odd number of town resulting from the odd number of wolves. I think town won and we’re just trying to figure out which part. I don’t like that I’m going to lose or win based on chance (even though that’s probably what brought us to this point) If we want to go for the draw all we need is for everyone to claim. Unfortunately, I deleted my PM from this game and I don’t remember what I am. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/1597 "2009-04-10T20:21:48Z")
> [@Oredigger77](#): > > Unfortunately, I deleted my PM from this game and I don’t remember what I am. Maybe you should PM pedescribe and have him re-send your faction. I don’t know if that is allowed, but it’d be frustrating to lose because someone forgot what their faction is. MHaye? I guess. **test MHaye** ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/1598 "2009-04-10T20:43:13Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Maybe you should PM pedescribe and have him re-send your faction. I don’t know if that is allowed, but it’d be frustrating to lose because someone forgot what their faction is. Ok, I just did. I agree I’d hate to win or lose because of this. Something I just thought of: [color=green] **Once we all claim and if we create two equal voting blocks will this game end?** [color] ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/1599 "2009-04-10T20:44:41Z")
Bah! **Once we all claim and if we create two equal voting blocks will this game end?** ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2009, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692/1600 "2009-04-10T20:48:32Z")
> [@Oredigger77](#): > > Bah! > > **Once we all claim and if we create two equal voting blocks will this game end?** If there were no wolves left (something I will not confirm or deny), and there was a tie, then yes, the game would end. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692.md?page=79) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mafia-the-split-signups-in-progress/485692.md?page=81)