# Werewolf Mini Mafia

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mini-mafia/511709>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 27, 2009, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mini-mafia/511709 "2009-09-27T01:39:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mini-mafia/511709/21 "2009-09-30T00:47:15Z")

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I’ll sign up, since you seem to be rather short on players. Put me at No. 7, if you please.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mini-mafia/511709/22 "2009-09-30T00:49:30Z")

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It looks like the Giraffe-board game I’m in is about over, or at least on auto-pilot. So sign me up for this one.

Questions about the rules:

1. Is this single vote per player, or multi-vote?
2. Are there any non-vanilla roles (for Town or Wolf)?
3. Are there any non-Town, non-Wolf players?
4. Are there any post restrictions (at Night, for example)?
5. How long do Nights last?

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mini-mafia/511709/23 "2009-09-30T01:58:53Z")

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1. Mahaloth

2. Cucuy

3. GuiriEnEspaña

4. Meeko

5. Pleonast

6. 
7. Pedescribe

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13. Drain Bead

14. Single vote

15. There might be! You never know.

16. No, those are the only two factions.

17. No strategy at night. That’s the only restriction.

18. Nights will last 48 hours.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mini-mafia/511709/24 "2009-09-30T02:08:19Z")

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Rules questions:

1. Are there aliens?
2. Does this game ‘count’ in a metaphysical sense?
3. To what extent is telepathy a valid tactic?
4. What about editing or PMing other players?
5. #4 was not a question, it was simply electrons creating the image of a question.
6. Did you set up separate categories for your spoiler boards and set-up boards, or did you just chuck them together in the ‘Werewolf mini mafia’ category?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mini-mafia/511709/25 "2009-09-30T02:21:49Z")

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> [@pedescribe](#):
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> Rules questions:
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> 1. Are there aliens?
> 2. Does this game ‘count’ in a metaphysical sense?
> 3. To what extent is telepathy a valid tactic?
> 4. What about editing or PMing other players?
> 5. #4 was not a question, it was simply electrons creating the image of a question.
> 6. Did you set up separate categories for your spoiler boards and set-up boards, or did you just chuck them together in the ‘Werewolf mini mafia’ category?

😃

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mini-mafia/511709/26 "2009-09-30T15:25:24Z")

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48-hour Nights? That’s fairly long.

Is there a possibility of recruitment? (Hopefully no.)

Also, please, please, please, publicly post any text repeated among multiple role PMs. This is usually the vanilla role PM, but might be other things as well.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mini-mafia/511709/27 "2009-10-02T11:44:43Z")

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> [@Pleonast](#):
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> 48-hour Nights? That’s fairly long.
> 
> Is there a possibility of recruitment? (Hopefully no.)
> 
> Also, please, please, please, publicly post any text repeated among multiple role PMs. This is usually the vanilla role PM, but might be other things as well.

Vote Pleonast  
Already moving in for another scum advantage are we?

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mini-mafia/511709/28 "2009-10-02T11:51:21Z")

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NETA : That is to say, I do find your request for a get out of Die you Scum Die! card to be a bit anti town. Even before the game starts. I don’t understand your request. I mean, why town would make it. [I see the logic in it, sure, just, it’s not good for town logic.]

Do you already have a role for this game?!  
That would be something : You sign up for a _Regular_ mafia, but once you get your role, you find you are already conscripted into a second game, to follow, and your actions in the first game, determine your role in the second.  
Also, boo on the amount of traffic on the boards right now.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mini-mafia/511709/29 "2009-10-02T11:53:51Z")

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NETA : That is to say, I do find your request for a get out of Die you Scum Die! card to be a bit anti town. Even before the game starts. I don’t understand your request. I mean, why town would make it. [I see the logic in it, sure, just, it’s not good for town logic.]

Do you already have a role for this game?!  
That would be something : You sign up for a _Regular_ mafia, but once you get your role, you find you are already conscripted into a second game, to follow, and your actions in the first game, determine your role in the second.  
Also, boo on the amount of traffic on the boards right now.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mini-mafia/511709/30 "2009-10-02T11:57:33Z")

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Talk about Feast or Famine Wait longer to post one message, and then you get to duplicate post yourself.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mini-mafia/511709/31 "2009-10-02T12:44:04Z")

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> [@Pleonast](#):
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> 48-hour Nights? That’s fairly long.
> 
> Is there a possibility of recruitment? (Hopefully no.)
> 
> Also, please, please, please, publicly post any text repeated among multiple role PMs. This is usually the vanilla role PM, but might be other things as well.

Actually I was debating whether or not to make them24 or 48 hours–I’ll probably go back to 24 hours.

As for recruitment…I’m going to be evil and not answer. 😃

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mini-mafia/511709/32 "2009-10-02T15:16:16Z")

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Hmmm…

Freudian, have you aske permission to post an “ad” for this on Giraffe boards? It’s taking a bit of time to fill.

Hoever, Gasterds is over now, so perhaps a PM out to players in that game could get this game filled and running.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mini-mafia/511709/33 "2009-10-02T15:18:49Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Hmmm…
> 
> Freudian, have you aske permission to post an “ad” for this on Giraffe boards? It’s taking a bit of time to fill.
> 
> Hoever, Gasterds is over now, so perhaps a PM out to players in that game could get this game filled and running.

I haven’t…how do I go about doing that? I don’t think I’ve ever been to Giraffe’s board.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mini-mafia/511709/34 "2009-10-02T15:18:54Z")

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Also, assuming night ever falls in the other current game, you might convince whoever dies there to come over to this one. So early November, possibly.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mini-mafia/511709/35 "2009-10-02T15:36:11Z")

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> [@Meeko](#):
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> NETA : That is to say, I do find your request for a get out of Die you Scum Die! card to be a bit anti town. Even before the game starts. I don’t understand your request. I mean, why town would make it. [I see the logic in it, sure, just, it’s not good for town logic.]
> 
> Do you already have a role for this game?!

I have no role in this game. The role I’m currently playing is “Mafia Game Designer”. I will often give advice and critiques to other Mafia game designers just as I expect others to do the same for me. That way, we all get to play better Mafia games.

Mafia games with closed rules sets (such as this one) have a possible exploit when players share hidden information. The players can use their shared secret to confirm each other and determine who doesn’t share the secret. This can even be done without revealing the secret. This exploit is usually beneficial to the side who doesn’t already know its own members–the Town.

I’d rather the loophole is closed, but if it exists I will make use of it when I’m a player. So my advice to the designer and moderator of this game is to close the exploit unless they intend for it to be used. It’s a fair warning.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2009, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mini-mafia/511709/36 "2009-10-04T21:53:46Z")

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:mad:

I still haven’t gotten any answers to my questions!

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mini-mafia/511709/37 "2009-10-05T03:56:26Z")

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I don’t even know what they mean.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mini-mafia/511709/38 "2009-10-12T02:01:45Z")

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There has been so little activity here, that I even forgot the name of the Mafia game I signed up for.  
What’s the Hap’ here anyway?

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mini-mafia/511709/39 "2009-10-12T02:15:25Z")

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Yeah, I don’t think it’s going to work out, sorry. ☹

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**Author:** ![Rin\_Twisted](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/82dd89/32.png) [@Rin\_Twisted](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rin_Twisted)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/werewolf-mini-mafia/511709/40 "2009-10-12T02:15:28Z")

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