# Westvleteren XII Brick Beer release 12/12/12 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** beer\ **Created:** [December 13, 2012, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westvleteren-xii-brick-beer-release-12-12-12/643878 "2012-12-13T00:40:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Hakuna\_Matata](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@Hakuna\_Matata](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hakuna_Matata)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westvleteren-xii-brick-beer-release-12-12-12/643878/1 "2012-12-13T00:40:37Z")
> **[Retail Locations For the Westvleteren XII Brick](https://121212xii.wordpress.com/2012/12/03/hello-world/)** > > On December 12, 2012 (12.12.12) the Westvleteren XII “Brick” (gift packs) will be available for sale in the US for the first time.  Below is a list of retail locations where these Brick… Not released here in Washington State but did anyone buy this? Want to send me a bottle? 🙂 Supposed to be the worlds best beer [http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/local\_news/water\_cooler/westvleteren-xii-worlds-best-beer-finally-available-in-the-united-states](http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/local_news/water_cooler/westvleteren-xii-worlds-best-beer-finally-available-in-the-united-states) but color me skeptical, but who knows. Haven’t travelled to Belgium to try it there and who knows how bottling impacts the beer. Just I know there are lots of beer guys here and was wondering if anyone purchased this. At $85 for a sixpack (brick) it better be good. ---
**Author:** ![polar\_bear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ec9cab/32.png) [@polar\_bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/polar_bear)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westvleteren-xii-brick-beer-release-12-12-12/643878/2 "2012-12-13T16:37:28Z")
The Westvleteren is pretty famous around these parts; you can normally only buy it at their Abby. You have to order ahead and can only get one ‘crate’ per license plate number. I know some people who have it regularly and hear good things, haven’t been able to get one myself (yet at least). ---
**Author:** ![mozchron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mozchron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mozchron)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westvleteren-xii-brick-beer-release-12-12-12/643878/3 "2012-12-13T16:51:57Z")
I’m pissed that these can’t be sold in my state :mad: That being said, St. Bernardus Abt 12 is essentially the same as the Westy 12 - the St. Bernardus brewery used to brew the Westy under license. When that deal ended, they kept brewing it using the same recipe and equipment, just under their own name. I’ve had both. Side by side, I think I _MIGHT_ be able to tell the difference, but I wouldn’t swear to it. And St. Bernardus Abt 12 is available pretty much everywhere. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westvleteren-xii-brick-beer-release-12-12-12/643878/4 "2012-12-13T17:28:09Z")
Best Beer in the World? Beer is so damn subjective and there are so many styles, to declare any beer the best in the world is pretty ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westvleteren-xii-brick-beer-release-12-12-12/643878/5 "2012-12-13T17:31:55Z")
The Best Beer in the World: the one in your hand. ---
**Author:** ![FordTaurusSHO94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f07891/32.png) [@FordTaurusSHO94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordTaurusSHO94)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westvleteren-xii-brick-beer-release-12-12-12/643878/6 "2012-12-13T18:47:25Z")
I thought the title said Wrestlemania XII. I was hoping to hear about the Iron Man Match. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westvleteren-xii-brick-beer-release-12-12-12/643878/7 "2012-12-13T20:02:55Z")
> [@mozchron](#): > > I’m pissed that these can’t be sold in my state :mad: > > That being said, St. Bernardus Abt 12 is essentially the same as the Westy 12 - the St. Bernardus brewery used to brew the Westy under license. When that deal ended, they kept brewing it using the same recipe and equipment, just under their own name. > > I’ve had both. Side by side, I think I _MIGHT_ be able to tell the difference, but I wouldn’t swear to it. And St. Bernardus Abt 12 is available pretty much everywhere. I was curious about this, as I’ve heard others say the two are dead similar for the reasons you’ve given, but I’ve never had the Westy 12. Unfortunately, I did not find out about this sale until yesterday afternoon, by which time the gift packs were long gone, as far as I know, otherwise I’d try a side-by-side. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westvleteren-xii-brick-beer-release-12-12-12/643878/8 "2012-12-13T20:05:07Z")
> [@FordTaurusSHO94](#): > > I thought the title said Wrestlemania XII. I was hoping to hear about the Iron Man Match. I misread it as WrestleMania too. ---
**Author:** ![mozchron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mozchron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mozchron)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westvleteren-xii-brick-beer-release-12-12-12/643878/9 "2012-12-13T21:30:39Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > I was curious about this, as I’ve heard others say the two are dead similar for the reasons you’ve given, but I’ve never had the Westy 12. Unfortunately, I did not find out about this sale until yesterday afternoon, by which time the gift packs were long gone, as far as I know, otherwise I’d try a side-by-side. I’ve had both, but not side by side. They are very similar. The Westy was slightly better in my opinion, but that may well be simply the excitement of trying it - I’d need to blind taste them side by side to be sure. Even in my memory, it wasn’t better enough to justify the major pain of obtaining it. ---
**Author:** ![Hakuna\_Matata](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@Hakuna\_Matata](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hakuna_Matata)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westvleteren-xii-brick-beer-release-12-12-12/643878/10 "2012-12-13T21:32:41Z")
> [@mozchron](#): > > That being said, St. Bernardus Abt 12 is essentially the same as the Westy 12 - the St. Bernardus brewery used to brew the Westy under license. When that deal ended, they kept brewing it using the same recipe and equipment, just under their own name. Good to know–I will have to look for it and try it so I can see if what I missed! And if I enjoy it then plan a trip to Belgium.