# Westworld - premieres Sunday (show spoilers as airs) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 1, 2016, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-premieres-sunday-show-spoilers-as-airs/767413 "2016-10-01T21:12:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-premieres-sunday-show-spoilers-as-airs/767413/242 "2016-10-18T19:06:54Z")
Agreed. ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-premieres-sunday-show-spoilers-as-airs/767413/243 "2016-10-18T19:15:04Z")
> [@UncleRojelio](#): > > This is what I’m going with. She opens the dresser and finds the gun. It is then that she moves it to the barn but the viewers just see her reset to the next loop. This happens several times during this episode. It seemed clear to me that she grabbed the rapist bad guy’s gun as they were wrestling each other in the barn. He then reached for it in his now empty holster and commented on her spunk or something. ---
**Author:** ![buckgully](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb9ed0/32.png) [@buckgully](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buckgully)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-premieres-sunday-show-spoilers-as-airs/767413/244 "2016-10-18T19:15:57Z")
Has anyone else played Rockstar Games’ “Red Dead Redemption”? Westworld and RDR are _extremely_ similar. I swear a lot of the plot and even the map of the park (on the website) are lifted almost straight out of that game. Even the ‘cannibal cult out in the badlands’ that they keep referring to was in the game. Granted, you’re talking about two open world games about the old west, so you’re covering a lot of the same tropes, but the overlap is striking. Oh. Dur. After writing this post I thought to look, and in fact both Nolans played RDR and GTA as inspiration for the show: > **[Westworld’s creators were inspired by Red Dead Redemption and BioShock](https://www.polygon.com/tv/2016/10/9/13221024/westworld-hbo-grand-theft-auto-nycc-2016)** > > Be kind to your NPCs Also, now I’m not sure how coincidental it is that Rockstar just announced Red Dead Redemption 2. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-premieres-sunday-show-spoilers-as-airs/767413/245 "2016-10-18T19:21:03Z")
We still haven’t seen Dolores’s mom’s face. Twice now, at least, she’s already been dead and unseen inside the farmhouse. I have a feeling that’s going to be a significant reveal. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-premieres-sunday-show-spoilers-as-airs/767413/246 "2016-10-18T19:50:19Z")
> [@randwill](#): > > I missed the reason that the park employee needed to cut the head off of the robot that was trapped in the hole. Any help? Clearly they use positronic brains, each a unique artifact. Why they couldn’t come back in the morning with a jackhammer and more crew is the bigger mystery. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-premieres-sunday-show-spoilers-as-airs/767413/247 "2016-10-18T19:57:31Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Clearly they use positronic brains, each a unique artifact. > > Why they couldn’t come back in the morning with a jackhammer and more crew is the bigger mystery. Because they already rebuild a bunch of robots daily and it is probably a lot less effort than sending a crew out there. The host bodies are disposable, making new ones has to be a daily routine. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-premieres-sunday-show-spoilers-as-airs/767413/248 "2016-10-18T20:05:25Z")
> [@buckgully](#): > > Even the ‘cannibal cult out in the badlands’ that they keep referring to was in the game. While it’s clear the creators do take inspiration from the game, it should be noted that _Ravenous_ came out in '99. The Donner party happened in '46. 1846. Alferd Packer went out for dinner in 1874. Wendigo legends go back even further. Cannibalism, including ritual/cultic cannibalism,was part of the Western mythos way before _RDR_. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-premieres-sunday-show-spoilers-as-airs/767413/249 "2016-10-18T20:27:21Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Because they already rebuild a bunch of robots daily and it is probably a lot less effort than sending a crew out there. The host bodies are disposable, making new ones has to be a daily routine. True enough. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-premieres-sunday-show-spoilers-as-airs/767413/250 "2016-10-18T20:55:07Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Because they already rebuild a bunch of robots daily and it is probably a lot less effort than sending a crew out there. The host bodies are disposable, making new ones has to be a daily routine. In that case, you’d think removing heads would be a relatively simple “twist both earlobes at the same time to release neck clamps” process, not requiring large serrated knives. Ergonomics, people! ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-premieres-sunday-show-spoilers-as-airs/767413/251 "2016-10-18T21:21:19Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > In that case, you’d think removing heads would be a relatively simple “twist both earlobes at the same time to release neck clamps” process, not requiring large serrated knives. > Ergonomics, people! Ergonomics, indeed. If I was paying an inordinate amount of money for a little adult entertainment, I’d be more than a little miffed if my robot-hooker-with-a-heart-of-gold’s head suddenly popped off in the middle of our “discussion session” because we twisted the wrong way ;). ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-premieres-sunday-show-spoilers-as-airs/767413/252 "2016-10-18T21:25:01Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#): > > Ergonomics, indeed. If I was paying an inordinate amount of money for a little adult entertainment, I’d be more than a little miffed if my robot-hooker-with-a-heart-of-gold’s head suddenly popped off in the middle of our “discussion session” because we twisted the wrong way ;). Well, alternately, if your adult entertainment _does_ involve a large serrated knife, I’m sure you’d want a realistic disengagement. ---
**Author:** ![Shalmanese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shalmanese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shalmanese)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-premieres-sunday-show-spoilers-as-airs/767413/253 "2016-10-18T21:55:05Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#): > > Ergonomics, indeed. If I was paying an inordinate amount of money for a little adult entertainment, I’d be more than a little miffed if my robot-hooker-with-a-heart-of-gold’s head suddenly popped off in the middle of our “discussion session” because we twisted the wrong way ;). Yeah, but the diagnostics lady had her tablet with her. There should be a setting in there for “diagnostic head detach ENABLE”. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-premieres-sunday-show-spoilers-as-airs/767413/254 "2016-10-19T00:17:21Z")
> [@Shalmanese](#): > > Yeah, but the diagnostics lady had her tablet with her. There should be a setting in there for “diagnostic head detach ENABLE”. They had that once. People kept hitting it by mistake when trying to open Outlook. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-premieres-sunday-show-spoilers-as-airs/767413/255 "2016-10-19T01:14:08Z")
A few random thoughts and comments: - Guy in the hole who climbed out while getting his head chopped out and then started bashing his head in with a rock. Was that because the programmer was able to quickly get a few commands in, or was that what he was trying to do all along? There was blood down in that hole when they found him. -Ford. Are there two of him or something? In the first few episodes he seemed connected to the hosts. He took walks with a host version of himself as a child. He visited with Bill down in the holding level. Visited with him - like a friend! He introduced the reveries that _seem_ to be causing all of the problems. Ep 3, and now he’s mr. “they’re just machines. never forget that.” WTF? I don’t know what the hell is going on with Ford, but it doesn’t add up. -Arnold. Not Ed Harris. I tend to think that actually Ed Harris may be more like a corporate spy. He seems to be trying to get into the lab. I think Arnold buried commands in the hosts/operating system. Perhaps the reveries accessed the top level of that pyramid for mentioned and breached the barrier that kept them hidden. I also wonder if Arnold is really dead… ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-premieres-sunday-show-spoilers-as-airs/767413/256 "2016-10-19T01:16:49Z")
Yeah, if Arnold isn’t Ed Harris, I’m betting Arnold is still alive somewhere in the park, in any event. > [@Tamerlane](#): > > …If I was paying an inordinate amount of money for a little adult entertainment, I’d be more than a little miffed if my robot-hooker-with-a-heart-of-gold’s head suddenly popped off in the middle of our “discussion session” because we twisted the wrong way ;). :: nods knowingly :: Another earlobe guy, eh? ---
**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-premieres-sunday-show-spoilers-as-airs/767413/257 "2016-10-19T01:56:31Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > As for the ambush, are there squibs buried in the ground to look like bullet hits, or are there actual projectiles being fired? Of course, meta-speaking, it’s the former for the safety of the actors who are shooting the TV series _WestWorld_, but if within the fictional setting it’s the latter, how do these _not_ pose significant injury risks to the guests? Yeah, we still haven’t got a clear explanation of how the guns work. That sure looked and sounded like real bullets hitting the ground, ricocheting, etc. When William got shot by the host why did he go down like he was dead? Wouldn’t his reaction be more like, “Ow!! Shit!!! What the fuck?!?!” I really can’t believe they just give people a gun and turn them loose in WW without some sort of orientation and practice session with the weapons. Even if you can believe that it’s some sort of non-lethal pellet, what if it hits someone in the eye with no sort of eye protection? ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-premieres-sunday-show-spoilers-as-airs/767413/258 "2016-10-19T02:07:28Z")
We were told, I think in the first episode, that all disease had been cured. So presumably medicine is quite advanced from what it is today and if a guest were shot in the eye by a host, he/she could probably be treated. ---
**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-premieres-sunday-show-spoilers-as-airs/767413/259 "2016-10-19T02:56:07Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > We were told, I think in the first episode, that all disease had been cured. So presumably medicine is quite advanced from what it is today and if a guest were shot in the eye by a host, he/she could probably be treated. Even if that’s the case it’s not something I would like to experience on my $40,000 a day vacation. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-premieres-sunday-show-spoilers-as-airs/767413/260 "2016-10-19T04:09:20Z")
Quite a buzzkill, losing an eye, what? ---
**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-premieres-sunday-show-spoilers-as-airs/767413/261 "2016-10-19T05:16:42Z")
> [@Morbo](#): > > He then reached for it in his now empty holster and commented on her spunk or something. …wait, I had something for this… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-premieres-sunday-show-spoilers-as-airs/767413.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-premieres-sunday-show-spoilers-as-airs/767413.md?page=14)