# Westworld S2 (show spoilers as it airs) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 30, 2018, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s2-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/811495 "2018-03-30T21:47:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Ashtura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ashtura/32/2963_2.png) [@Ashtura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtura)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s2-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/811495/282 "2018-05-17T19:44:25Z")
Uh, they allow you to rape and murder the hosts. Morality and political correctness don’t seem like they’d be a top priority. Having Chinese hosts build the railroad seems like no big deal in comparison. They probably have a field guide on period appropriate racial epithets. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s2-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/811495/283 "2018-05-17T19:47:09Z")
Sure, but the raping and murdering is part of the guest experience. What’s the fun in watching Chinese laborers build a railroad in nineteenth century fashion? ---
**Author:** ![Ashtura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ashtura/32/2963_2.png) [@Ashtura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtura)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s2-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/811495/284 "2018-05-17T19:51:36Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Sure, but the raping and murdering is part of the guest experience. What’s the fun in watching Chinese laborers build a railroad in nineteenth century fashion? Immersion and realism maybe? Maybe there’s a side quest there. P.S. I also have very little doubt that an “Antebellum South World” would depict slaves that you could abuse the hell out of. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s2-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/811495/285 "2018-05-17T20:48:20Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > That’s a good question. We know about The Raj and Shogunworld in addition to Westworld. And I think there are three other parks yet to be described. I have no idea what would appeal to the Chinese guests. Tang Dynasty era (TangWorld) perhaps? > **[What Period of History Do Chinese People Most Admire?](https://slate.com/human-interest/2015/01/what-period-of-chinese-history-do-chinese-people-most-admire.html)** > > This question originally appeared on Quora, the best answer to any question. Ask a question, get a great answer. Learn from experts and access insider... ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s2-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/811495/286 "2018-05-17T21:41:15Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Sure, but the raping and murdering is part of the guest experience. What’s the fun in watching Chinese laborers build a railroad in nineteenth century fashion? Maybe there’s a narrative option popular with Chinese guests were the workers revolt and kill their overseers. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Shakester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shakester/32/437_2.png) [@Shakester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shakester)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s2-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/811495/287 "2018-05-18T03:47:23Z")
It seems to me that Americans of Chinese ancestry might be proud of their ancestors/predecessors and their hard work in difficult conditions. Here in Australia there are plenty of Australians who are descended from Gold Rush era Chinese immigrants, including a good friend of mine. If there were a Gold Rush era Australia World, then leaving the Chinese out would be considered a racist whitewashing of history. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2018, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s2-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/811495/288 "2018-05-20T17:40:42Z")
> [@outlierrn](#): > > I missed the first couple of episodes, what’s the deal with zombie Clementine? Did she take some heavy damage or something, maybe her lobotomy was excessive? Unexplained as yet. She definitely seems more subdued/grim. ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2018, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s2-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/811495/289 "2018-05-20T18:19:20Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Unexplained as yet. She definitely seems more subdued/grim. Hmm. My theory, at the end of S1, was that Ford was faking the lobotomies on hosts that showed signs of self awareness and sequestering them to build an army. But maybe not. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2018, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s2-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/811495/290 "2018-05-20T18:54:30Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Unexplained as yet. She definitely seems more subdued/grim. I think her undeadish appearance is just due to having been put in cold storage for awhile and then reactivated without anything bothering to do any cosmetic work. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2018, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s2-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/811495/291 "2018-05-21T01:27:11Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > infantry combat in TV shows is always like this. It’s always people standing up and blasting away at one another and it never makes any sense on any level; for one thing, not nearly enough people were being killed on either side in the first phase of the combat. Also the old TV show “Combat!!!” my Dad said that was pretty realistic at times. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2018, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s2-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/811495/292 "2018-05-21T01:32:51Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > A much better episode than last week - seeing Delos’s repeating days for what turned out to be decades, and learning that everyone he loved was dead, was powerful stuff. Having William hand him the script of what he just said was a nice callback to when Maeve was shown her just-uttered “dialogue” on a computer tablet. Some good bits with the Confederadoes and the nitroglycerine; loved seeing the older William take down the bad(der) guys. Except: Why the fuck fry the whole room? You have to rebuild it all, why? And why the fuck is there nitro there? Not to mention it is a oily substance and a shot glass would kill you anyway, regardless of being blown up. I still want a explanation for the magic guns, and how Guests dont die from Nitro explosions, knives or etc. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2018, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s2-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/811495/293 "2018-05-21T02:32:42Z")
Shogunworld was pretty much a straight up copy-and-paste of Westworld, right down to the town layout, the host narratives, and the background music (“Paint it Black”). Squirrely writer guy outright admitted it. Yet it was much more awesome than Westworld, since everything is more awesome with samurai and ninja. Loved Maeve connecting with her Japanese counterpart. Now is she going to reprogram Akane with her new trick of silent host control? The different “Worlds” I think function like the difficulty levels of a video game. Westworld is normal or default mode. Rajworld is easy mode, where guests can go to get cosseted and pampered and just enjoy the ride. Shogunworld is hard mode; it’s much more visceral and in-your-face. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2018, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s2-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/811495/294 "2018-05-21T03:30:09Z")
> [@Terminus\_Est](#): > > … The different “Worlds” I think function like the difficulty levels of a video game. Westworld is normal or default mode. Rajworld is easy mode, where guests can go to get cosseted and pampered and just enjoy the ride. Shogunworld is hard mode; it’s much more visceral and in-your-face. Hard to believe that William/MiB wouldn’t have moved to hard mode and that Grace was picking easy mode. ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2018, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s2-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/811495/295 "2018-05-21T03:40:31Z")
William, at least, was going for 100% completion/secrets/Easter eggs across all the modes. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2018, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s2-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/811495/296 "2018-05-21T03:44:22Z")
William was looking for the maze, which as far as he knew, was in Westworld, the oldest part of the park. I don’t understand Grace starting to look for her father in Rajworld, but I’ll note she did go on safari close to the borders between worlds. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2018, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s2-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/811495/297 "2018-05-21T03:55:10Z")
Lee plagerising his own work for Shogunworld was hilarious, especially everyone interacting with their counterparts. Maeve developing the ability to telepathically command other Hosts is an interesting development. So’s on Dolores reprogramming Teddy. > [@DSeid](#): > > Hard to believe that William/MiB wouldn’t have moved to hard mode and that Grace was picking easy mode. Well Grace was familiar enough with Westworld that she could speak Lakota. I imagine she cycles through the parks; her father seems to stick with Westworld. I wonder where the other 3 parks fall on the spectrum (or if they’re geared toward entirely different experiences). Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Scoobysnax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c4cdca/32.png) [@Scoobysnax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scoobysnax)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2018, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s2-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/811495/298 "2018-05-21T08:01:20Z")
Is it just me or was the song at the end, the one the shogun Maeve was dancing to, Wu-Tang Clan’s C.R.E.A.M.? ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2018, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s2-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/811495/299 "2018-05-21T09:05:52Z")
I have just realized why Maeve couldn’t reprogram the Ghost Nation that accosted her. It’s not that they’re controlled by another entity, although that’s almost certainly the case. It’s because she spoke to them in English, rather than Lakota. With her newfound WiFi ability though, the point may be moot. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2018, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s2-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/811495/300 "2018-05-21T11:25:33Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > Hard to believe that William/MiB wouldn’t have moved to hard mode and that Grace was picking easy mode. I don’t think it’s a matter of “hard mode”. Westworld is the flagship park while the others are just spinoffs. Plus William probably doesn’t feel like learning Japanese. > [@Scoobysnax](#): > > Is it just me or was the song at the end, the one the shogun Maeve was dancing to, Wu-Tang Clan’s C.R.E.A.M.? It was. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2018, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s2-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/811495/301 "2018-05-21T13:41:03Z")
Ninjas! Samurai! Geishas! Awesome. The parallels between the Sweetwater bank robbers’ and the Shogunworld thieves’ capers were funny. Although how incredibly dumb do you have to be to let a dancer you knows hates you, with long metal objects sticking out of her hair, get so close? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s2-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/811495.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s2-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/811495.md?page=16)