# Westworld S2 (show spoilers as it airs) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 30, 2018, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s2-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/811495 "2018-03-30T21:47:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2018, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s2-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/811495/21 "2018-04-23T21:47:32Z")
I’m thinking Bernard at some point was able to hack into the terraforming controls and flood Seatwater; this explaining the lake that wasn’t there before and his confession to killing all those hosts. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2018, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s2-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/811495/22 "2018-04-23T22:23:15Z")
> [@Flip\_Pancake](#): > > Must be a pretty large island if the other parks are as sprawling as Westworld. But I hope we get to see Jungle World as well at some point in the future… It seems implausible that they can devote vast areas to open rangeland as we’ve seen, particularly if this is an artificial island (as was suggested on another site). Walt Disney World has an enormous amount of land compared to Disneyland but even it has most of the attractions within a fairly compact space. Perhaps if this is an overcrowded world, the luxury of being able to be that isolated in the open areas of the park is worth it? ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s2-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/811495/23 "2018-04-24T00:20:31Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > The opening scene was OG Arnold. Arnold as God? > > The rest of the show is split between “Just after the attack” and “two weeks after the attack.” It’s the same Bernard. For last season they basically said that when a host “remembers” something, they basically relive that moment. Bernard doesn’t really remember how he ended up on the beach because he’s basically living two different points in time. Sorry for my ignorance but what is “OG” in this context? In any case I am not so sure when that opening scene takes place. I think we are supposed to think it is past with real Arnold but to me the feel is more Bernard having been bought back on line (“lost my thoughts”) with Delores interviewing him as he had her. His “dream” was too much of what we were then seeing as the two more current timelines. But what we have so far with Bernard is a damaged Bernard with Hale who is looking for “the package” and a Bernard a few weeks later without Hale who now seems to remember that he killed them all. Personally though I am going to suspicious of anything the writers conveniently provide for us. We _will_ be set up to assume things that will turn out to not be the case. Rancher’s daughter/Wyatt Delores who knows more than from what we know she has reason to know and who is intent on taking over the whole world for her kind with Teddy at her side. Maeve with Hector and Lee on a quest to find her daughter. MiB/William being told that Ford made this new game for him, find the door if he can? Borders between the parks permeable at the least. And the question of why the IP is worth so much and the real purpose of the park from Delios’ POV. The lines will intersect, they have to, but where, when, and how? How do they put together this game is made for MiB and the other lines, for example? ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s2-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/811495/24 "2018-04-24T00:28:21Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > Sorry for my ignorance but what is “OG” in this context? “Original gangsta”, a joking way of saying the real Arnold before he was replaced by robot Bernard. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s2-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/811495/25 "2018-04-24T02:23:32Z")
Thank you. And correction to my “what we know” above - Bernard in what we are _told_ is two weeks later … but dang the way the recovery are handling him seems … off. Is it real? Is it actually _much_ later? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s2-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/811495/26 "2018-04-24T18:02:54Z")
I really enjoyed it - I’d say S2 is off to a good start. So the vast Delos park is somewhere near China, I guess… hmm. Really does look like Dr. Ford was killed, but I wonder if perhaps he just arranged for a lookalike host to be killed, and is somewhere in the shadows, still pulling the strings. The faceless, silent, unfinished white hosts in the underground lab were certainly creepy. And a dead bear in the control room… brrr. Glad William/TMIB is still in the game. Maeve taking the Eurotrash programmer along to find her daughter has definite potential. And was that Teddy, still “alive” and slightly smiling, floating in the lake at the end? > [@Tamerlane](#): > > “Wyatt” was [a] murderous Civil War officer… Nitpick: he was a sergeant, and not necessarily Civil War - U.S. Army uniforms and rank insignia didn’t change for decade afterwards, including during the Indian Wars that seem like the more natural setting for Westworld adventures. ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s2-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/811495/27 "2018-04-24T19:01:30Z")
I thought it was Teddy floating in the lake. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s2-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/811495/28 "2018-04-24T19:36:51Z")
The _Westworld_ series creators tell CNN that tech has taken control of culture: [Business News - Latest Headlines on CNN Business | CNN Business](http://money.cnn.com/video/technology/2018/04/20/westworld-creators-tech-control-culture-orig.cnnmoney/index.html?iid=ob_article_videocrpool) ---
**Author:** ![Flip\_Pancake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f1d935/32.png) [@Flip\_Pancake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flip_Pancake)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2018, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s2-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/811495/29 "2018-04-25T04:42:05Z")
[Side by side comparison of the opening credits from S1 and 2 (YouTube link).](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7flN3wS8pM) ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2018, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s2-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/811495/30 "2018-04-25T06:43:26Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Nitpick: he was a sergeant, and not necessarily Civil War - U.S. Army uniforms and rank insignia didn’t change for decade afterwards, including during the Indian Wars that seem like the more natural setting for Westworld adventures. IIRC they had some weird alternate history going on in Season 1, with Confederate units fighting in Mexico. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2018, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s2-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/811495/31 "2018-04-25T08:46:28Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Nitpick: he was a sergeant, and not necessarily Civil War - U.S. Army uniforms and rank insignia didn’t change for decade afterwards, including during the Indian Wars that seem like the more natural setting for Westworld adventures. We know the park is set after the Civil War, but I don’t think it’s too late after, given the Confederados are still wearing their old uniforms and include some quite young men but are explicitly _ex_-Confederate soldiers. Also, people do use the word “Union” rather than “Federal” or “US”, sometimes. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2018, 8:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s2-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/811495/32 "2018-04-25T08:48:55Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > IIRC they had some weird alternate history going on in Season 1, with Confederate units fighting in Mexico. The official Wiki says they’re _ex_-Confederates, bitter-enders. A [real-world thing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Virginia_Colony), apparently. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2018, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s2-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/811495/33 "2018-04-25T09:44:07Z")
Reddit speculation: Bernard waking up on a beach is part of a loop (i.e. he’s done it again and again and is “reset”), likely because Delos (or other authority) figured out he was a host and they’re trying to get information out of him. This is based on some odd behavior from Bernard, such as mouthing along with some of the words of the guy who speaks to him. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2018, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s2-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/811495/34 "2018-04-25T10:50:09Z")
Nitpick: every time an android is killed, he/she bleeds red. So why is the fluid Bernie is leaking and replacing from another android white? ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2018, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s2-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/811495/35 "2018-04-25T11:20:08Z")
That wasn’t blood; it was supposed to be the Host equivalent of cerebralspinal fluid. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2018, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s2-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/811495/36 "2018-04-25T12:32:55Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > That wasn’t blood; it was supposed to be the Host equivalent of cerebralspinal fluid. Still should mean white stuff flying out of head-shot androids, not red stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2018, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s2-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/811495/37 "2018-04-25T13:23:43Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > And was that Teddy, still “alive” and slightly smiling, floating in the lake at the end? Ah! I couldn’t place him so thanks for that. Fun question: we know hosts can die from gunshots (although Hector seems more or less fine), knife wounds (including throats cut) and so forth, but can they drown? Or is this all a clever ruse to make Delos think they’re all dead? Also fun: Maeve is operating in “God mode”. Bernard mentions a system of links between hosts in close proximity when he’s doing the search for Abernathy; Maeve appears to be able to control other hosts (presumably via this) even though verbal commands are disabled, thanks to her upgraded security clearances. It’ll be interesting to see whether this works when she runs into Dolores. I noted that the host who was shot during the party when the guests were trying to shoot a bottle off his head was seen pulling the same trick on a guest, although I haven’t gone back to see if it was the same guest that shot him. And “later” he’s seen throwing himself in front of another female host to save her - and gets shot, as does she. As for “stuff flying out of heads” we see with the Ghost Tribe guy (who ironically gets scalped) that there is fake blood and brain matter surrounding the core, hence the splat when hosts get shot. Loose end: what happened to Felix? Yet to be seen, I assume. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2018, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s2-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/811495/38 "2018-04-25T13:36:22Z")
If the white stuff’s surrounded by red stuff, how would you tell? ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2018, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s2-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/811495/39 "2018-04-25T13:41:11Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Fun question: we know hosts can die from gunshots (although Hector seems more or less fine), knife wounds (including throats cut) and so forth, but can they drown? Or is this all a clever ruse to make Delos think they’re all dead? From what I’ve gathered, the (current generation) hosts are much more biologically-based than machine-based, so I would imagine there’s a need for oxygen there. So I’d guess they could drown … eventually. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2018, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s2-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/811495/40 "2018-04-25T13:54:35Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Still should mean white stuff flying out of head-shot androids, not red stuff. When guests are shot in the head, cerebrospinal fluid also spills out. It’s just that the blood is more strongly colored, plus there’s a lot more of it, so you notice the latter over the former. Same deal with the hosts. White stuff and red stuff both leak out after head shot, but you only notice the red. Bernard exactly where to stick the needle to get just the white stuff (really more of a pale yellow). It’s like getting a spinal tap. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s2-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/811495.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s2-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/811495.md?page=3)