# Westworld S3 (show spoilers as it airs) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 15, 2019, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s3-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/835565 "2019-06-15T15:59:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s3-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/835565/61 "2020-03-24T03:28:53Z")
I like the Game of Thrones crossover; the subtitles even referred to Drogon, not the dragon. The most confusing thin so far is Caleb robbing ATMs, so cash is still a thing in the future and criminals go to extremely elaborate lengths to get it? Also what’s up with the communion wafer things every seems to be popping? Are they a drug or part of VR or both? Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s3-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/835565/62 "2020-03-24T03:59:52Z")
> [@DPRK](#): > > I figured that was the laser satellite uplink from Season 2 when they (Dolores?) uploaded a bunch of hosts to the encrypted Elysian world. Could be, although there was a quick view of what looked like a four-tube SAM launcher. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s3-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/835565/63 "2020-03-24T04:50:46Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > I like the Game of Thrones crossover; the subtitles even referred to Drogon, not the dragon. The most confusing thin so far is Caleb robbing ATMs, so cash is still a thing in the future and criminals go to extremely elaborate lengths to get it? Also what’s up with the communion wafer things every seems to be popping? Are they a drug or part of VR or both? > > Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk Well, for some reason so is smoking\*, altho that’s far more doubtful than cash. It seems to be some sort of VR device. - the real reason is the $ HBO is getting from Big Tobacco. ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s3-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/835565/64 "2020-03-24T05:14:59Z")
When Maeve programmed the robot to grab her CPU and try to escape from Serac’s cement factory (whether or not that really happened or was yet another simulation), it looked like the CPU was not hooked up and the robot was autonomously running a relatively simple program. So what was her plan? To whom was the drone supposed to take the processor module, how exactly was it supposed to get there, and whom does she know (remember she never left the park before) who even has the technology and hardware to run that thing that is not Delos, Serac, Dolores, or Bernard (whom she did not know where he was hiding)? ---
**Author:** ![Rushgeekgirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rushgeekgirl/32/3715_2.png) [@Rushgeekgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rushgeekgirl)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s3-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/835565/65 "2020-03-24T05:23:19Z")
Another episode I thoroughly enjoyed and even more the second time around. There were subtle clues here and there that let us know Maeve wasn’t just in another “world” but I always miss those clues the first time I watch. Honestly though I did suspect Hector wasn’t aware right away. The thing with Cerac (sp?). Is he supposed to be like the serpent in the garden? SO many biblical themes in the show! I loved the pacing. I just sat back and enjoyed the tale. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s3-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/835565/66 "2020-03-24T06:18:43Z")
> [@DPRK](#): > > When Maeve programmed the robot to grab her CPU and try to escape from Serac’s cement factory (whether or not that really happened or was yet another simulation), it looked like the CPU was not hooked up and the robot was autonomously running a relatively simple program. So what was her plan? To whom was the drone supposed to take the processor module, how exactly was it supposed to get there, and whom does she know (remember she never left the park before) who even has the technology and hardware to run that thing that is not Delos, Serac, Dolores, or Bernard (whom she did not know where he was hiding)? I don’t think she had a plan. I think she just saw the opening and made a run for it. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s3-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/835565/67 "2020-03-24T11:54:06Z")
The idea of the simulation was, allegedly, to get revealed where the host minds programs were sent, where “Sublime” was located, then determining that Maeve did not know, that the one who likely knew was Dolores. Why did Serac feel the need to know that information? How did that fit in with his explanation of having thought of Maeve as the treat to how the system charts the future? Is Sublime inside Rehoboam? Themes this season seem to center around which reality, if _any_ presented, are “real” and what is simulation (inclusive of how Dolores got the bad tempered rich guy to kill himself on), and AI being _ceded_ control, from the algorithm having the proxy to vote on Westworld to Rehoboam itself) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s3-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/835565/68 "2020-03-24T16:15:15Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > I don’t think she had a plan. I think she just saw the opening and made a run for it. That’s how I took it, too. ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s3-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/835565/69 "2020-03-24T16:31:25Z")
I’m just saying, suppose her escape attempt were successful and it was all real instead of another construct. Now the conspicuously bullet-riddled industrial robot is aimlessly walking around the streets of Barcelona or hiding in the outskirts, with who knows how much power left, and Maeve can’t even give it further instructions since she went offline as soon as her processor was disconnected from the mainframe. ---
**Author:** ![Rushgeekgirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rushgeekgirl/32/3715_2.png) [@Rushgeekgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rushgeekgirl)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s3-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/835565/70 "2020-03-24T22:00:33Z")
I think he wanted to know if Maeve was able to think ahead and the simulation ended when she lost the “game”. She has good ideas but not having a plan with the robot showed she didn’t have the same capability I think Dolores has. She can anticipate what humans will do a lot better than Maeve. Dolores hatched a really complex plan and clearly had to have some knowledge on how the humans would react in the real world possibly based on actions taken at the park but maybe she’s already in with Rehoboam and that’s what Serac is worried about because maybe he can’t control it. Maeve is smart but she just took chances and didn’t really think too far ahead. I think Dolores ending up with a wound under that bridge with Caleb was planned. If she’s already connecting with Rehoboam she would know his story without him ever being in the park. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s3-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/835565/71 "2020-03-25T00:14:45Z")
Wait, why are we assuming that she met Serac in another construct? Because he froze her? She’s in a robot body he built - couldn’t he have just installed a cutoff switch? ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s3-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/835565/72 "2020-03-25T00:18:49Z")
Maeve has always been impulsive - look how she decided to stay in the park and look for her daughter. She’s been making it up as she goes along. That’s not a programming flaw, it’s a character trait. ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s3-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/835565/73 "2020-03-25T01:27:48Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Wait, why are we assuming that she met Serac in another construct? Because he froze her? She’s in a robot body he built - couldn’t he have just installed a cutoff switch? Not necessarily assuming that, just saying that the escape attempt, as portrayed in the episode, and considering what we know she knew at the time, looked like it was remarkably ill thought out and even in the best-case scenario, in the unlikely event the robot was not quickly recovered and returned to the owner, her processor module would probably just get permanently lost or damaged. > [@Alessan](#): > > Maeve has always been impulsive - look how she decided to stay in the park and look for her daughter. She’s been making it up as she goes along. That’s not a programming flaw, it’s a character trait. Agreed; it was even a point that she resisted Ford(?)'s program for her to escape from Westworld and do… whatever she was supposed to do. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s3-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/835565/74 "2020-03-25T10:11:37Z")
> [@DPRK](#): > > Not necessarily assuming that, just saying that the escape attempt, as portrayed in the episode, and considering what we know she knew at the time, looked like it was remarkably ill thought out and even in the best-case scenario, in the unlikely event the robot was not quickly recovered and returned to the owner, her processor module would probably just get permanently lost or damaged. Remember that just a few hours earlier she had been willing to shove a drill into her central processor. Her escape was an act of defiance by a desperate woman who didn’t really care if she died in the attempt. I think that’s why Maeve is my favorite character: of all the hosts, her actions are the most recognizably human. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s3-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/835565/75 "2020-03-25T17:00:07Z")
I loved Maeve’s Rick and Morty solution to the simulation. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s3-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/835565/76 "2020-03-25T17:52:00Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > I loved Maeve’s Rick and Morty solution to the simulation. The moment I realized she was pulling the old “crash a computer by asking it to solve a paradox” trick, I literally laughed out loud. Gotta respect the classics! I think this was the best episode of the show so far. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s3-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/835565/77 "2020-03-25T18:24:26Z")
Jim Kirk beat her - and Rick and Morty - to it. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s3-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/835565/78 "2020-03-25T19:00:45Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Maeve has always been impulsive - look how she decided to stay in the park and look for her daughter. She’s been making it up as she goes along. That’s not a programming flaw, it’s a character trait. I am a little confused about one thing- why is she supposed to be so hot and attractive? She looks OK, sure but she is played like every man springs to attention and wants her on the spot. To me, she is maybe a 6, not the 11 they play her as.😕 ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s3-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/835565/79 "2020-03-25T19:16:29Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > I am a little confused about one thing- why is she supposed to be so hot and attractive? She looks OK, sure but she is played like every man springs to attention and wants her on the spot. To me, she is maybe a 6, not the 11 they play her as.😕 Have you considered getting stronger glasses? 😉 I finally saw the first two episodes. Ep1 looked Blade Runner the Series (just a lot cleaner). I like Ep2 better as they were making decisions and running through the parks (fake one for Maeve and real one for Bernard and Stubbs). Up thread someone indicated that we are supposed to root for the robots - but I think we are supposed to root for Maeve and Bernard. Dolores is utterly terrifying - I’m not rooting for her. Maybe it’s a Magneto vs. Professor X sort of thing. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s3-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/835565/80 "2020-03-25T19:21:25Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > I am a little confused about one thing- why is she supposed to be so hot and attractive? She looks OK, sure but she is played like every man springs to attention and wants her on the spot. To me, she is maybe a 6, not the 11 they play her as.😕 YMMV. Purely in terms of looks, I’d give her a solid 8, but her looks + her charisma put her off the chart. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s3-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/835565.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/westworld-s3-show-spoilers-as-it-airs/835565.md?page=5)