WH refuses to open EPA's e-mail re greenhouse gases

This administration is acting like a gradeschool girl.

“Sally, Georgie isn’t reading your notes!”

Sally sends Georgie another note: “Do you like global warming? If so, check this box.”

A fair description of the Watergate Hearings. Whatever works, dude.

That is astonishingly childish behavior from the Leadership of the Free World[sup]TM[/sup].

I guess the EPA will have to send the e-mail with a subject line like “Nude Anna Kournikova pix!” to get 'em to open the report.

I assume that there are some legal consequences to opening this e-mail. Does anybody know if this is the case?

::fingers in ears::

LA LA LA LA LA!!! I CAN’T HEAR YOUUUUUUUUU!!!

I think the EPA should hold its breath until it turns blue and/or the White House opens the damned e-mail.

But they’re almost ideologically…congruent, in a mind-numbingly stupid way. Bush-Rove’s aw-shucks populism has always been that gummint is evil. Us average hard-workin’ folks would be just fine if the guldurned gummint and all those politicians would get out of our lives. Right out, man, right the hell out. For 8 years George W. Bush, horny-handed son of the earth and a former president, stuck to what he knew should replace gummint: God and faith-based initiatives.

Only a blamed fool would pay the least attention to something that shouldn’t exist in the first damned place. The E.P.-fuckin’-A. was founded by socialists anyway, or maybe even FDR. It’s just plain wrong. If you know, for-sure KNOW, Satan is calling, would you answer the phone?

Well, yeah, pretty much have to…its complicated.

I disagree. The big issue in Watergate was an elected official using the powers of his office to influence his own re-election. That’s a big step down the path to dictatorship. It’s worse than anything Clinton or Bush ever tried.

Perhaps there’s a thought out reason to this whole thing. Aside from Bush himself, he has some pretty smart people around him, now that Rumsfeld is out of his ear.

And if you can get behind the idea that Dick Cheney isn’t some reincarnation of Darth Vader puppetmaster with GWB as his marionette.

Maybe there’s ramifications to this energy policy that if enacted, will make our gasoline prices worse?

How? Reducing production while increasing demand doesn’t sound like it’d jive with the whole reducing greenhouse emissions groove. What could be in this report that if enacted would lead to an increase in gasoline prices beyond what is happening now?

If there were such things, why not just come out and talk about the negatives of the plan instead of simply ignoring the e-mail and waiting for it to go away?

If there are intelligent people with the president’s ear, why are they handling this e-mail in such a boneheaded fashion?

Because they don’t care. They don’t have to. The EPA can’t take any action that will matter in the next few months, nothing they can’t tie up in court somehow, or just ignore. What’s one more massive scandal when they’ve got at least six on the news every day, who’s going to pay attention to this? See anybody paying any attention outside of us?

I’m not even sure what “paying attention” means anymore. Sure, you and I are paying attention. So? What can we DO about it? Go to the White House and knock on the front door and ask them nicely to open their emails? Bring a well-armed militia? Do you know where to pick one of those up these days? I don’t think Costco stocks them…

I think sometimes we confuse ignorance and apathy for a feeling of powerlessness. Are you familiar with the song “Waiting on the World to Change”? Great little ditty, nice regaeish beat, sounds reminiscent of the protest songs of the sixties…except it’s all about how powerless we feel. We know “they” have the money and the power and the press, and we’re just sitting here, waiting on the world to change so we have our shot at running things.

Frakking depressing song, man…but really true for my peer group.

“And we’re trying damn hard to prove it to everybody, goldurnit!” :stuck_out_tongue:

Reread the article. It’s not about energy policy, it’s about pollution policy.

John Stewart and his viewers.

But it was a one-show bit. Outrage fatigue, y’know.

Yeah I know, but reducing emissions can invariably lead to energy cost increases.

Reducing emissions requires 1) better emissions-control technology in automobiles and coal-fired power plants, and/or 2) reduced burning of fuels, as by substitution of mass-transit alternatives, more energy-efficient home technologies, more energy-efficient hybrid vehicles, etc. How would any of that increase gasoline prices at the pump? Seems to me it would have the reverse effect. Demand drops, price drops.

All that might have worked out better if he were not also obsessed with being a “war president.”

Perhaps, but I doubt it. That presumes that he is distracted, that he might be better at such environmental issues if he were not. But the Bushiviks are resolute in their presumption that all this ecology stuff is just ideological horseshit from the “anti-business” left and the DFH. So, even if there were no war(s), he wouldn’t be any more open to our views, nor any more likely to respond.