# Whaddya mean, cheating isn't allowed?!?!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whaddya-mean-cheating-isnt-allowed/247591>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 28, 2004, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whaddya-mean-cheating-isnt-allowed/247591 "2004-05-28T23:05:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2004, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whaddya-mean-cheating-isnt-allowed/247591/1 "2004-05-28T23:05:49Z")

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A guy plagarises for three years of a univeristy degree, and then complains that nobody told him that cheating was wrong? And then _sues_? And even says “Oh, but I spent sooooo much money on this degree”?

Form a queue for the spear-throwing at the moron once we get him chained to a wall

> **[The Times & The Sunday Times](https://www.thetimes.co.uk/)**
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> News and opinion from The Times & The Sunday Times

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2004, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whaddya-mean-cheating-isnt-allowed/247591/2 "2004-05-28T23:14:24Z")

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Alrighty then. Am I first in line?

Goody. I choose the Alsatian boar-spear, and I’ll aim for his left ear.

What a :wally !

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2004, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whaddya-mean-cheating-isnt-allowed/247591/3 "2004-05-28T23:22:09Z")

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And I’ll whack him with a woomera.

Geez, the Very FIrst Thing you learn at uni (apart from the location of the local drinking establishment) is that plagiarism is a Very Serious Thing that will result in your failing, no ifs and absolutely no buts.

Double :wally

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**Author:** ![Darkhold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@Darkhold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darkhold)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2004, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whaddya-mean-cheating-isnt-allowed/247591/4 "2004-05-28T23:28:21Z")

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How can a human being that actually attended school to any extent be ‘unaware’ that cutting pages of material out of any source (Internet or not) and then ‘adding my own points’ doesn’t fly?

What an idiot. Not only should the school keep his money they should sue him for taking up space another student could have had.

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**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2004, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whaddya-mean-cheating-isnt-allowed/247591/5 "2004-05-28T23:30:44Z")

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> [@Darkhold](#):
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> … they should sue him for taking up space another student could have had.

Fucking hell, that is a **fantastic** idea!!!

_is tempted to email Canterbury and suggest it…_

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**Author:** ![Darkhold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@Darkhold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darkhold)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2004, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whaddya-mean-cheating-isnt-allowed/247591/6 "2004-05-28T23:36:42Z")

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Just make sure to correctly attribute the idea to me. 😃

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**Author:** ![Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac8455/32.png) [@Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bippy_the_Beardless)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2004, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whaddya-mean-cheating-isnt-allowed/247591/7 "2004-05-28T23:39:01Z")

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I was going to give some defence to the student in saying that my experience was that UK University rules made it somewhat unclear as to what was considered plagurism and what was considered fair use of read background information. But reading the OP linked article the case is so clearcut is to be laughable if it weren’t also sad.  
I wonder if I could get me an English degree with the book I just rote, I call it Duke of the Rings, its about some midgets, a guy called Arathorn and a sorcerer called Gondalf.  
Pass me a throwing trident will you…

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**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2004, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whaddya-mean-cheating-isnt-allowed/247591/8 "2004-05-28T23:39:03Z")

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> [@Darkhold](#):
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> Just make sure to correctly attribute the idea to me. 😃

Too late, it’s all copyrighted to me. Now, if you were to plagiarise the idea…

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2004, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whaddya-mean-cheating-isnt-allowed/247591/9 "2004-05-28T23:43:01Z")

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Alrighty then. Am I first in line?

Goody. I choose the Alsatian boar-spear, and I’ll aim for his left ear.

What a :wally !

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**Author:** ![Darkhold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@Darkhold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darkhold)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2004, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whaddya-mean-cheating-isnt-allowed/247591/10 "2004-05-28T23:44:55Z")

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HA! Fell into my trap. The idea was originally plagiarized from someone else. When THEY sue YOU what are you going to say you stole it from me fair and square?!?!?!

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**Author:** ![Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc8723/32.png) [@Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fish)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2004, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whaddya-mean-cheating-isnt-allowed/247591/11 "2004-05-29T01:03:18Z")

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Alrighty then. Am I first in line?

Goody. I’ll choose the 1920s style Death Ray. :wally

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2004, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whaddya-mean-cheating-isnt-allowed/247591/12 "2004-05-29T01:07:30Z")

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Mmm. That is some tasty schadenfreude. Excellent vintage.

Oh, and I choose this handy-dandy harpoon gun. Whale ho! \<ka-chunk\>

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**Author:** ![Antigen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/848f3c/32.png) [@Antigen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antigen)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2004, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whaddya-mean-cheating-isnt-allowed/247591/13 "2004-05-29T01:25:10Z")

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“I never dreamt it was a problem”?? Bullshit. He’s just pissed he got caught. Moron.

Hand me my javelin…

**Miller** , thanks to you, I will be saying “Whale Ho! Ka-chunk!” all over the place for no good reason. I think it may get me slapped.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2004, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whaddya-mean-cheating-isnt-allowed/247591/14 "2004-05-29T06:15:55Z")

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> [@Bippy the Beardless](#):
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> I was going to give some defence to the student in saying that my experience was that UK University rules made it somewhat unclear as to what was considered plagurism and what was considered fair use of read background information. But reading the OP linked article the case is so clearcut is to be laughable if it weren’t also sad.  
> I wonder if I could get me an English degree with the book I just rote, I call it Duke of the Rings, its about some midgets, a guy called Arathorn and a sorcerer called Gondalf.  
> Pass me a throwing trident will you…

Hmmm. Iffy title… how about _The Earl of the Bracelets_?

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2004, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whaddya-mean-cheating-isnt-allowed/247591/15 "2004-05-29T06:18:35Z")

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> Mr Gunn, 21, claims that he was unaware that his activity - cutting and pasting material from the internet without attribution - constituted plagiarism

That alone should keep him from graduating.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2004, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whaddya-mean-cheating-isnt-allowed/247591/16 "2004-05-29T06:21:17Z")

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Uhhg, everybody does stupid shit. Maybe not _this_ stupid, but stupid nonetheless.

It’s when they show a complete lack of shame, embarassment, or remorse and turn around and sue that I just want to dropkick them.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2004, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whaddya-mean-cheating-isnt-allowed/247591/17 "2004-05-29T08:00:19Z")

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Ah, but did you see [this](http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3561-1126250,00.html) article?

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2004, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whaddya-mean-cheating-isnt-allowed/247591/18 "2004-05-29T09:39:46Z")

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> [@Smeghead](#):
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> Ah, but did you see [this](http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3561-1126250,00.html) article?

It took me a couple of minutes to get that.

😃

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**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2004, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whaddya-mean-cheating-isnt-allowed/247591/19 "2004-05-29T10:09:01Z")

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> [@Really Not All That Bright](#):
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> Hmmm. Iffy title… how about _The Earl of the Bracelets_?

Naw. _Baron of the Bling-Bling_!

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**Author:** ![Shade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Shade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shade)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2004, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whaddya-mean-cheating-isnt-allowed/247591/20 "2004-05-29T10:33:22Z")

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> [@Bippy the Beardless](#):
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> I wonder if I could get me an English degree with the book I just rote, I call it Duke of the Rings, its about some midgets, a guy called Arathorn and a sorcerer called Gondalf.

You could call the Gandalf-clone Dumbledore. Now all we need is some names for the little people… no, wait, that’s been done.

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