# Whan that aprill with his shoures rante

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whan-that-aprill-with-his-shoures-rante/685072>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 1, 2014, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whan-that-aprill-with-his-shoures-rante/685072 "2014-04-01T03:52:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![fisha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@fisha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fisha)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2014, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whan-that-aprill-with-his-shoures-rante/685072/161 "2014-04-10T02:18:04Z")

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> [@MissTake](#):
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> How did you spend your Tuesday, Missy?  
> High as fuck on diludid at the hospital. I thought Lefty (kidney) has decided to give up the ghost. It hurt like hell. Tons of tests, a CT scan, xrays - nothing. Not a damn thing wrong, just a lot of hurt.  
> Discovered that, despite being a big girl, I can only take small amounts of painkillers. The hurling when they gave me a half dose of diludid wasn’t pretty.  
> Came home late last night with a scrip for vicodin and zofran  
> Today I feel like I was hit by a truck - my whole body aches.  
> Feh.

Hey, you need any help, let me know. This isn’t a polite Minnesota nice offer, it’s a real one.

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**Author:** ![EmAnJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d2c977/32.png) [@EmAnJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmAnJ)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2014, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whan-that-aprill-with-his-shoures-rante/685072/162 "2014-04-10T03:24:21Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> Forgot to comment on this - I agree. It’s like work safety culture - you’re are supposed to reject unsafe work and report it, but they’d really prefer it if you didn’t. They don’t make as much money when you’re refusing unsafe work. The bottom line statistics that safe workers are more productive workers does not enter into it.

I guess I’m a minority, but I’ve had the exact opposite happen, and at different places of work. I have never, ever had a problem taking a sick day, and have been encouraged to do so when needed. I don’t think I actually know anyone in my personal life that has run in to this - nurses, teachers, public service, etc. Doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen , but I disagree with the insinuation that it’s the status quo.

As for safety, absolutely disagree. Really, that one comes down to liability and the law.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2014, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whan-that-aprill-with-his-shoures-rante/685072/163 "2014-04-10T03:32:51Z")

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I’m lucky. I can work from home if I’m ill, so I’m still able to work even if I’m ill without affecting coworkers. I’ve been out a number of times for colds and the like, but I’ve only been “out sick” once or twice.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2014, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whan-that-aprill-with-his-shoures-rante/685072/164 "2014-04-10T05:34:45Z")

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> [@EmAnJ](#):
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> \<snip\>  
> As for safety, absolutely disagree. Really, that one comes down to liability and the law.

I’m not sure what you’re saying; of course workplace safety has all kinds of liability and law dictating it; that doesn’t mean that companies don’t try to get away with everything they can. I could go out tomorrow and take pictures of multiple roofing companies with guys on the roofs without their legally-mandated fall arrest on. My husband has worked as a safety officer for the last 15 years; I’ve heard endless stories about what workers/supervisors try to get away with on the job.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2014, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whan-that-aprill-with-his-shoures-rante/685072/165 "2014-04-10T16:08:50Z")

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Ticketmaster is a pile of shit (I know, sun rises in east).

I unsubscribed from their spam e-mails (which I never agreed to receive) but they keep sending them to me. So I used their contact form to explain why this is a bad idea - only they do their best to prevent you from sending an e-mail about anything but selling you more crap. So I had to conjure up an event in the subject line (“Ticketmaster’s Bankruptcy”) in order for the e-mail to go through.

Maybe I should invent even more satisfying and sleazy faux Ticketmaster events for future e-mails. “Ticketmaster Execs Eaten By Snails” has a ring to it. And I might even buy tickets to see it.

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**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2014, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whan-that-aprill-with-his-shoures-rante/685072/166 "2014-04-10T17:33:05Z")

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> [@fisha](#):
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> Hey, you need any help, let me know. This isn’t a polite Minnesota nice offer, it’s a real one.

Thanks, **fisha**. I’m doing okay-ish today and will be meeting with the dialysis person come Monday (dreading it, but it is what it is).

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2014, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whan-that-aprill-with-his-shoures-rante/685072/167 "2014-04-10T18:07:27Z")

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> [@fisha](#):
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> Hey, you need any help, let me know. This isn’t a polite Minnesota nice offer, it’s a real one.

Only in Minnesota would you have to make such a distinction. People are quietly weird here in Baja Canada.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2014, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whan-that-aprill-with-his-shoures-rante/685072/168 "2014-04-10T18:11:17Z")

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Was not in condition to be at work today. Boss saw it, and when I suggested I needed to go home, told me to do so.

And it took a lot to type this out properly. damn

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**Author:** ![Missy2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@Missy2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Missy2U)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2014, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whan-that-aprill-with-his-shoures-rante/685072/169 "2014-04-10T20:01:37Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Was not in condition to be at work today. Boss saw it, and when I suggested I needed to go home, told me to do so.
> 
> And it took a lot to type this out properly. damn

I really, really wish you lived near me so I could make you tea and toast, and chicken soup, and help you feel better - I’m so sorry you’re so miserable! ☹

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2014, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whan-that-aprill-with-his-shoures-rante/685072/170 "2014-04-10T20:25:28Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> \<snip\>
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> Maybe I should invent even more satisfying and sleazy faux Ticketmaster events for future e-mails. “Ticketmaster Execs Eaten By Snails” has a ring to it. And I might even buy tickets to see it.

We could really have A LOT of fun with that - “Ticketmaster Execs Say, “We Sure Do Love Having Sex With Sheep!””

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**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2014, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whan-that-aprill-with-his-shoures-rante/685072/171 "2014-04-10T20:28:55Z")

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How about: ‘Ticketmaster Execs Say “Yaaaa” to Sheep Sex’.

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**Author:** ![Mapache](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/58956e/32.png) [@Mapache](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mapache)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2014, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whan-that-aprill-with-his-shoures-rante/685072/172 "2014-04-10T20:34:15Z")

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I feel for all of you who are sick right now, but at least most of you have some idea of what’s making you sick. I don’t have any idea what’s going on, and my doctor doesn’t either. I mean, I’m seventy three and I have to expect stuff to be going wrong now and then, but this is something new. In January my daughter and I went to London ( $360 each for a balcony room on the QM II !!) and walked all over, fifteen or twenty blocks at a time (at 3-4 C). Three months later, and I can’t walk half a block in perfect weather without feeling exhausted, can’t climb stairs, have to use a wheelchair to go grocery shopping, can’t eat more than half a cup of soup a day, or maybe part of an egg, have lost ten pounds in three weeks. What in hell’s name is going on?

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**Author:** ![Cheez\_Whia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d26b3c/32.png) [@Cheez\_Whia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheez_Whia)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2014, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whan-that-aprill-with-his-shoures-rante/685072/173 "2014-04-10T21:39:50Z")

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That stinks, **Mapache**. Maybe you should start a thread in IMHO and a real doper-doc will offer an opinion. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Boggette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/858c86/32.png) [@Boggette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boggette)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2014, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whan-that-aprill-with-his-shoures-rante/685072/174 "2014-04-10T21:56:11Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> I’m lucky. I can work from home if I’m ill, so I’m still able to work even if I’m ill without affecting coworkers. I’ve been out a number of times for colds and the like, but I’ve only been “out sick” once or twice.

In addition to this, we have flex time. So you can nap, work, nap, etc. if you need to. We are extremely lucky!

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**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2014, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whan-that-aprill-with-his-shoures-rante/685072/175 "2014-04-11T01:18:08Z")

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New bad book out in Oct. Daschel can drop dead. She spams every single fucking article on the net with anti-vaccine comments. Stupid, arrogant, useless, lying bitch.

> [@](#):
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> [The Big Autism Cover-Up: How and Why the Media Is Lying to the American Public: Dachel, Anne: 9781629144467: Amazon.com: Books](http://www.amazon.com/The-Big-Autism-Cover-Up-American/dp/1629144460)
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> The Big Autism Cover-Up: How and Why the Media Is Lying to the American Public Hardcover – October 7, 2014
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> The Big Autism Cover-Up explores how news outlets downplay the impact of autism while backing the official denial of any link between the disorder and vaccines. Despite never honestly and thoroughly investigating the link, mainstream news sources continue to challenge those who question the safety of vaccines and the mounting evidence that an unchecked, unsafe vaccination schedule is behind the exponential increase in autism.

I am so tired of this shit. Go away, Annie. You suck.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2014, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whan-that-aprill-with-his-shoures-rante/685072/176 "2014-04-11T04:29:08Z")

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“Exponential increase in autism”? If that were true, every kid born would have it by now, wouldn’t they?

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2014, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whan-that-aprill-with-his-shoures-rante/685072/177 "2014-04-11T04:59:51Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> “Exponential increase in autism”? If that were true, every kid born would have it by now, wouldn’t they?

And yet:

> [@](#):
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> Autism now affects two percent of U.S. children. A once rare disorder is now so common that everyone knows someone with an affected child.

Two percent is an exponential increase? 😕 And besides, I don’t know any child who has autism. Personally I think it’s just being diagnosed more. Back in my days we called it “being a kid.”

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2014, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whan-that-aprill-with-his-shoures-rante/685072/178 "2014-04-11T06:29:07Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> I’m not sure what you’re saying; of course workplace safety has all kinds of liability and law dictating it; that doesn’t mean that companies don’t try to get away with everything they can. I could go out tomorrow and take pictures of multiple roofing companies with guys on the roofs without their legally-mandated fall arrest on. My husband has worked as a safety officer for the last 15 years; I’ve heard endless stories about what workers/supervisors try to get away with on the job.

When my brother worked as a construction foreman, I could always find him easily: his was the only behelmeted head on site. What I don’t know is why wasn’t he able to enforce work safety on the subcontractors.

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**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2014, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whan-that-aprill-with-his-shoures-rante/685072/179 "2014-04-11T07:05:37Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> And yet:
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> Two percent is an exponential increase? 😕 And besides, I don’t know any child who has autism. Personally I think it’s just being diagnosed more. Back in my days we called it “being a kid.”

There were also kids around whom we called “retarded” back in the day that would probably be labelled autistic now. I do know one autistic kid, my SO’s grandson. You could tell he was different from the day he was born. Something was just a little off.

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**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2014, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whan-that-aprill-with-his-shoures-rante/685072/180 "2014-04-11T10:18:31Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> And yet:
> 
> Two percent is an exponential increase? 😕 And besides, I don’t know any child who has autism. Personally I think it’s just being diagnosed more. Back in my days we called it “being a kid.”

I know a woman who Munchausen-by-Proxy’d her youngest son into autism. Fortunately some decent people intervened and got her kids taken away from her. The youngest son is now fine and doesn’t have autism.

This experience has colored how I look at the rise in autism that people are claiming. Just like everyone tries to be “sensitive to gluten” because that’s the Cool New Diagnosis, I firmly believe that there are a lot of children out their being “trained”\* by one or more of their parents to act like they have autism because now it’s cool to have an autistic child. There are a lot of kids being fucked up because of this, just like when it was cool to have a child with ADHD. :mad:

\*Trained as in “we’re going to treat you like you’re autistic and you’re going to learn that that’s how we expect you to act.”

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