I think this is the first time Kim Deal has ever been called a waif…
And having said that, Peyton Bighorse of SkatingPollysounds a lot like Deal or one of the Throwing Muses sisters, IMO (She’s the first singer on Flyer, her sister Kelli is more Hole/Babes in Toyland). And they’re current.
I agree and I grew up in the 90s and listened to all those bands. I think just about none of them stand the test of time. The interesting thing is that you can easily tell you are listening to a alternative band from the 90s, I guess the same way I could tell when a song was from the 70s when I was growing up (90s alt rock is the new classic rock I guess). It really didn’t seem to influence things that much beyond the 90s.
Pearl Jam just sounds like classic rock to me. They’re beyond just “alternative”. I think they’d fit in any rock era.
Sublime is my favorite 90’s band. I usually go to 2 “Badfish”, the Sublime tribute band, festivals a year. Looks like they’re not coming again this year, but I’m holding out hope for a late fall festival.
I thought Everclear was corny as a teen, but i like them a lot now. Just good rock music.
I caught the “voiced” part. I’m not sure what adjective is right, but to me “waif voice” is a thin, delicate one, sometimes cutesily affected, usually breathy. Their voices often have this detached sneer to them and matter-of-fact delivery that doesn’t fit any of those characteristics to me, but perhaps my definition of “waify voiced” is different than yours. Kim Deal can be a bit “coquettish” in her delivery, but I’m not sure it hits “waif voiced” for me.
Yeah, they’re def not cutesy!
But there’s definitely something different about this group than, say, the hard rockers that came before them like Joan Jett, Tina Turner, Pat Benatar… they’re more… I’m trying not to say “girly,” but they’re softer more straight forward with an undercurrent of “underestimate me at your own peril!”
It’s a great sound, if you ask me. The proper rock and roll mix of normalness and insanity. But it’s definitely of an era.
Fair enough…though I’m trying to remember another Sugar Ray single that was as big. “Every Morning” or “When it’s Over” maybe? I don’t remember those being as world-conquering as “Fly” was.
Smash Mouth definitely entered the zeitgeist in a much huger way with “All-Star” I’ll admit. Though if memory served it first hit the streets on the soundtrack to a movie that flopped (Mystery Men) and then got its placement in Shrek just as meme culture was on the rise, kind of a perfect storm of “oh god, this is never going away, is it?”
I’ll say this, though, both of those songs I cited felt like one-hit wonders to the core of their being as they blasted out of my car radio in the summer of 1997, and but for the chaos-theory butterfly flapping its wings they would have been. Sometimes the best pop arrives with disposability already written all over it.
Just because a band has other songs that aren’t as popular as it’s most well known hit doesn’t make them a one hit wonder. Fly was their most popular, but Every Morning hit #3 in the US Billboard charts and Someday hit #7.
Oh man, you’re taking me back to high school. I loved DOA, Black Flag, and Dead Kennedys.
Looking back on DOA’s catalogue has made me realize just how relevant a lot of their tunes are today. Not sure how real hardcore punk would hold up today but I love it!