# What a dumb reason to boycott Narnia

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 2, 2006, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-a-dumb-reason-to-boycott-narnia/338149 "2006-01-02T23:46:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![BluePitbull](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9bcb4/32.png) [@BluePitbull](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BluePitbull)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2006, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-a-dumb-reason-to-boycott-narnia/338149/1 "2006-01-02T23:46:54Z")

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[http://www.heartofthewolf.org/Narnia.htm](http://www.heartofthewolf.org/Narnia.htm)

Hey, I like wolves but I am not going to be upset by how they are protrayed in the film/book

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**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2006, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-a-dumb-reason-to-boycott-narnia/338149/2 "2006-01-02T23:50:56Z")

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This guy is a jerk. Just because wolves are portrayed as villains doesn’t mean that the producers are saying that wolves are evil (or that C.S. Lewis was saying wolves are evil). It’s just that the Narnian wolves protect the White Witch, who isn’t really a very nice person.

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**Author:** ![Cunctator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/43a26b/32.png) [@Cunctator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cunctator)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2006, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-a-dumb-reason-to-boycott-narnia/338149/3 "2006-01-02T23:56:57Z")

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I thought it was going to be about the fact that Maugrim (the chief wolf) was the only character that had an American accent.

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**Author:** ![Birdmonster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/71e660/32.png) [@Birdmonster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Birdmonster)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2006, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-a-dumb-reason-to-boycott-narnia/338149/4 "2006-01-02T23:57:16Z")

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[equally stupid] I’m going to start boycotting the internet because that guy’s site is on it. [/equally stupid]

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-a-dumb-reason-to-boycott-narnia/338149/5 "2006-01-03T00:06:34Z")

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From the link: “Wolves falsely portrayed in film version of Chronicles of Narnia Film!” Gee, all the other talking animals were portrayed so accurately and scientifically.

Also, I’m going to boycott _The Wizard Of Oz_ because of they way it portrays flying monkeys. The one that fly out of my butt are so nice!

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-a-dumb-reason-to-boycott-narnia/338149/6 "2006-01-03T00:36:23Z")

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The movie was portraying Narnian wolves, which, as everyone knows, _are_ evil.

He shouldn’t assume they behave like Earth wolves. Completely different animal.

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-a-dumb-reason-to-boycott-narnia/338149/7 "2006-01-03T00:43:10Z")

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Years ago there was a woman fired from a symphony because she refused to take part in their production of “Peter and the Wolf” on the grounds of unfair potrayal of wolves. I wish I could remember which symphony she was a part of but it’s been years since I read the article. It is a pretty silly reason to boycott a film or lose your job over though.

Marc

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-a-dumb-reason-to-boycott-narnia/338149/8 "2006-01-03T00:49:23Z")

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I have to admit, but I kinda agree with the guy. It’s a very stupid reason to boycott a film, I agree, and I’m not outraged by it or anything, but wolves are pretty neat animals, and the whole wolves=evil idea strikes me as terribly old and played out. Actually, one of the things that bothered me about the movie in general was the whole talking animal thing. The divisions just seemed so arbitrary. Wolves are evil, but foxes are good. Tigers are evil, but lions are Jesus. The big battle at the end of the movie was confusing in large part because you couldn’t tell what side the animals were on in the battle until you saw them hit something. They’d show you a rhinocerous charging, and I didn’t know if I was supposed to be worried for the good guys, or relieved that they’re getting help, until it hit someone.

In a related gripe, what was Mrs. Beaver’s maiden name?

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-a-dumb-reason-to-boycott-narnia/338149/9 "2006-01-03T01:33:08Z")

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Heh. Take a look at the front page. (Warning: Sound.)

Wolves falsely portrayed at [heartofthewolf.org](http://heartofthewolf.org)! Wolves are not wobbly-mouthed whiners!

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**Author:** ![soulmurk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b782af/32.png) [@soulmurk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/soulmurk)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-a-dumb-reason-to-boycott-narnia/338149/10 "2006-01-03T02:00:13Z")

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Idiocy doesn’t surprise, or even phase, me anymore, but I find it fairly disturbing that he capitalizes wolf every time he writes it like it were a proper noun.

Makes me wonder what his take on The Three Little Pigs, Little Red Riding Hood, and Dracula are. It’s a conspiracy!

Come to think of it, I take that back. I don’t even want to know.

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-a-dumb-reason-to-boycott-narnia/338149/11 "2006-01-03T02:20:56Z")

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Wolves have been extinct in England (and most of Europe) for so long that they exist more as mythological creatures than as biological entities. Lewis’s portrayal is as true to that mythology as the Grimm brothers’ was. This guy’s a tool.

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**Author:** ![Cazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cazzle/32/75_2.png) [@Cazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cazzle)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-a-dumb-reason-to-boycott-narnia/338149/12 "2006-01-03T02:24:36Z")

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> [@Larry Mudd](#):
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> Heh. Take a look at the front page. (Warning: Sound.)
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> Wolves falsely portrayed at [heartofthewolf.org](http://heartofthewolf.org)! Wolves are not wobbly-mouthed whiners!

Ouch! That crashed my browser. Who knew that Firefox would continue the battle against wolves?

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-a-dumb-reason-to-boycott-narnia/338149/13 "2006-01-03T03:12:48Z")

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> [@cazzle](#):
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> Ouch! That crashed my browser. Who knew that Firefox would continue the battle against wolves?

Crashed my Firefox too (well, locked it up and I had to kill it). Heads up, Firefox users.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-a-dumb-reason-to-boycott-narnia/338149/14 "2006-01-03T05:28:14Z")

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> [@Revtim](#):
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> Crashed my Firefox too (well, locked it up and I had to kill it). Heads up, Firefox users.

Don’t you know foxes and wolves don’t get along?

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**Author:** ![Darkhold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@Darkhold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darkhold)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-a-dumb-reason-to-boycott-narnia/338149/15 "2006-01-03T05:41:45Z")

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Ahh that’s not nearly as fun as the website dedicated to renaming the **Two Towers** because it kinda sorta sounded like Twin Towers.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-a-dumb-reason-to-boycott-narnia/338149/16 "2006-01-03T06:08:35Z")

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So… wolves aren’t talking anthropomorphised strategic thinking animals? And all this time that’s what I thought they were.

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**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-a-dumb-reason-to-boycott-narnia/338149/17 "2006-01-03T06:47:16Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> I have to admit, but I kinda agree with the guy. It’s a very stupid reason to boycott a film, I agree, and I’m not outraged by it or anything, but wolves are pretty neat animals, and the whole wolves=evil idea strikes me as terribly old and played out. Actually, one of the things that bothered me about the movie in general was the whole talking animal thing. The divisions just seemed so arbitrary. Wolves are evil, but foxes are good. Tigers are evil, but lions are Jesus. The big battle at the end of the movie was confusing in large part because you couldn’t tell what side the animals were on in the battle until you saw them hit something. They’d show you a rhinocerous charging, and I didn’t know if I was supposed to be worried for the good guys, or relieved that they’re getting help, until it hit someone.
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> In a related gripe, what was Mrs. Beaver’s maiden name?

I kinda agree. I haven’t seen the film yet but it seems that minotaurs are evil, but centaurs are good. Why?

I was under the impression that the greek stories had the centaurs to be perverts. They don’t call it “Hung like a Horse” for nothing.

And I though goat-legged fellows like Mr. Tumus are supposed to be satanic?

But Steven Colbert was right: Bears are evil. You can see two of them pulling the Witch’s cart.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-a-dumb-reason-to-boycott-narnia/338149/18 "2006-01-03T07:07:24Z")

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> [@soulmurk](#):
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> Makes me wonder what his take on The Three Little Pigs, Little Red Riding Hood, and Dracula are.

[Shouldn’t be surprised](http://www.heartofthewolf.org/deception.txt): (.txt link - should be safe for Firefox.)

> [@](#):
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> Little Red Riding Hood didn’t help matters. Neither did Peter and the Wolf.
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> What about the Three Little Pigs? No wonder our children grow up to be adults fearing the wolf. Are these the same people who are claiming that eventually, a child will be eaten by a wolf?

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-a-dumb-reason-to-boycott-narnia/338149/19 "2006-01-03T12:02:48Z")

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Given that this guy thinks Peter was given “staff” and that wolves were “imported from New Zealand” (my emphasis), I think it’s safe to say he has no clue what he’s talking about.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-a-dumb-reason-to-boycott-narnia/338149/20 "2006-01-03T12:16:36Z")

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Wolves are in fact, meek, kindly vegetarian creatures, the main purpose of which is the responsible adoption of abandoned infants.

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