# What about climate? USA! USA! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 2, 2012, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-about-climate-usa-usa/639651 "2012-11-02T11:51:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-about-climate-usa-usa/639651/1 "2012-11-02T11:51:21Z")
What about climate? USA! USA! USA! :rolleyes: This encapsulates the GOP position on Global Warming to a tee. I’m not joking. During one of Romney’s rallys, when he mentioned Sandy, someone interjected “What about climate? That’s what caused this” Romney did not address this. Rather, the collectivist mob drowned him out, literally chanting “USA! USA! USA!” This is self parody. What a GREAT, cogent, well thought out answer, to the proposition that climate change is causing worse storms. AMERICA! FUCK YEAH! That’s your _answer_ in this debate? ---
**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-about-climate-usa-usa/639651/2 "2012-11-02T12:07:24Z")
So, Romney is obligated to respond to every random moron who tries to disrupt his rallies? :rolleyes: Anyone who has paid any attention at all to the news coverage of this storm knows that it was a “Perfect Storm” type situation: a hurricane, merging with a cold front, at high tide, over a heavily-populated area. Every random fluke that could possibly have made this storm worse happened. While the media loves to use terms like “storm of the century” and “once in a lifetime storm” (which is a big part of the proplem, actually) this literally was a once-in-a-lifetime event. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-about-climate-usa-usa/639651/3 "2012-11-02T12:09:50Z")
> [@](#): > > this literally was a once-in-a-lifetime event. irony! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-about-climate-usa-usa/639651/4 "2012-11-02T12:14:53Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > What about climate? USA! USA! USA! :rolleyes: > > This encapsulates the GOP position on Global Warming to a tee. I’m not joking. During one of Romney’s rallys, when he mentioned Sandy, someone interjected “What about climate? That’s what caused this” Romney did not address this. > > Rather, the collectivist mob drowned him out, literally chanting “USA! USA! USA!” This is self parody. What a GREAT, cogent, well thought out answer, to the proposition that climate change is causing worse storms. AMERICA! FUCK YEAH! That’s your _answer_ in this debate? Climate change has been with us since the Earth cooled. We humans do NOT control, and until we figure out how to put a thermostat on the Sun, we never will. It was a dumbshit question, posed by a dumbshit heckler, and Romney was correct in ignoring it. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-about-climate-usa-usa/639651/5 "2012-11-02T12:26:23Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Climate change has been with us since the Earth cooled. We humans do NOT control, and until we figure out how to put a thermostat on the Sun, we never will. > > It was a dumbshit question, posed by a dumbshit heckler, and Romney was correct in ignoring it. If you’re a stealth liberal, I applaud your tenacity and commitment to the cause. You have done tireless work. ---
**Author:** ![CoastalMaineiac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e8c25b/32.png) [@CoastalMaineiac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoastalMaineiac)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-about-climate-usa-usa/639651/6 "2012-11-02T12:28:13Z")
The biggest contributor to global warming has got to be politicians. After all, what are politicians if they aren’t big windbags full of hot air? I wonder if we could find a way to harness all the surplus hot air around election season to heat homes in the colder climates. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-about-climate-usa-usa/639651/7 "2012-11-02T12:38:29Z")
> [@Diceman](#): > > So, Romney is obligated to respond to every random moron who tries to disrupt his rallies? :rolleyes: How is this a response to my OP? The crowd believes in mindlessly repeating brainless …well I won’t even call them assertions. They’re repeating thought-stopping slogans. They’re cloaking themselves in group membership to avoid the hard task of thinking. Mitt is not doing this. He’s pandering to it. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-about-climate-usa-usa/639651/8 "2012-11-02T13:59:10Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Climate change has been with us since the Earth cooled. We humans do NOT control, and until we figure out how to put a thermostat on the Sun, we never will. Number 1 and number 2 myths in one line, well done! > **[Arguments from Global Warming Skeptics and what the science really says](https://skepticalscience.com/argument.php)** > > Examines the science and arguments of global warming skepticism. Common objections like 'global warming is caused by the sun', 'temperature has changed naturally in the past' or 'other planets are warming too' are examined to see what the science... > [@Clothahump](#): > > It was a dumbshit question, posed by a dumbshit heckler, and Romney was correct in ignoring it. You got the wrong dumbshit. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-about-climate-usa-usa/639651/9 "2012-11-02T14:01:17Z")
> [@Diceman](#): > > So, Romney is obligated to respond to every random moron who tries to disrupt his rallies? :rolleyes: > > Anyone who has paid any attention at all to the news coverage of this storm knows that it was a “Perfect Storm” type situation: a hurricane, merging with a cold front, at high tide, over a heavily-populated area. Every random fluke that could possibly have made this storm worse happened. While the media loves to use terms like “storm of the century” and “once in a lifetime storm” (which is a big part of the proplem, actually) this literally was a once-in-a-lifetime event. Nope. [http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2012/11/01/1122911/billion-dollar-disasters-mount-superstorm-sandy-adds-to-record-heat-drought-and-wildfires-for-the-us/](http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2012/11/01/1122911/billion-dollar-disasters-mount-superstorm-sandy-adds-to-record-heat-drought-and-wildfires-for-the-us/) > [@](#): > > Sandy is responsible for at least 74 fatalities, and preliminary estimates indicate that it could cause $20 billion in property damage with only one-quarter to one-half covered by insurance. It may be one of the costliest U.S. hurricanes ever. > > Unfortunately, Sandy is only the latest in a line of recent extreme weather events that have severely afflicted Americans in the past two years. Other disasters include the most destructive wildfire in Colorado history, record-breaking temperatures across the nation, and severe thunderstorms and tornadoes across the Midwest. Farmers in the Midwest are expecting to harvest just a fraction of their corn and other crops this year, leading to record federal crop insurance payments due to the worst drought in 50 years that plagued two-thirds of the nation. Vicious heat waves, wildfires, hurricanes, and severe storms left hundreds of people dead and injured. These are the extreme weather events that scientists predict will become more frequent and/or severe if the industrial carbon pollution responsible for climate change remains unchecked. ---
**Author:** ![Fuji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@Fuji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuji)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-about-climate-usa-usa/639651/10 "2012-11-02T14:27:10Z")
In case anyone is wondering, I believe that [this](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0fLLplaNyU) is the rally to which the OP was referring. For those who can’t watch the clip now: yes, it is as bad as **Ludovic** says it was. These fucking idiots deserve a hurricane of their own. ---
**Author:** ![akennett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ee59a6/32.png) [@akennett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/akennett)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-about-climate-usa-usa/639651/11 "2012-11-02T14:38:59Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > If you’re a stealth liberal, I applaud your tenacity and commitment to the cause. You have done tireless work. No, he just really is that stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-about-climate-usa-usa/639651/12 "2012-11-02T14:47:31Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > If you’re a stealth liberal, I applaud your tenacity and commitment to the cause. You have done tireless work. Have you ever thought that **Clothahump** is actually Colbert, testing out new material? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-about-climate-usa-usa/639651/13 "2012-11-02T14:47:59Z")
When I was a kid, I never understood why wrestling crowds would chant “U-S-A! U-S-A!” during matches where both wrestlers were American. When I moved to the US, I didn’t understand why the national anthem was played before sporting events where both teams were American. Now I’m an adult, and I guess “U-S-A!” is about as cogent a response as the global warming deniers have come up with. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-about-climate-usa-usa/639651/14 "2012-11-02T15:33:29Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > Rather, the collectivist mob . . . Hey, that’s just what the Pubs are always calling the Dems! (On the Intertubes, anyway; I never seem to hear the word mentioned on TV.) ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-about-climate-usa-usa/639651/15 "2012-11-02T15:35:32Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Have you ever thought that **Clothahump** is actually Colbert, testing out new material? No. If that were true, some trace of a sense of humor would be undisguisably present. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-about-climate-usa-usa/639651/16 "2012-11-02T15:41:38Z")
I never thought of this before, but maybe one of the reasons global warming has such a poor track record with conservatives is that it has the word “global” in it. The global indicates expresses concerns outside the good old USA, and so it is probably a issue made up by all those whiny ass furiners who don’t have the good sense to be born in America. A better term would be something like “Too fucking much CO2 which is fucking with the weather in god’s own US of A” ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-about-climate-usa-usa/639651/17 "2012-11-02T15:42:29Z")
I’m an Obama fan. That said, the guy was being a jackass. Those people came to see Mitt speak. This guy is akin to that asshole who thinks it’s OK to aswer his cell phone in a crowded theater because hey ‘It was an imnportant call.’ ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-about-climate-usa-usa/639651/18 "2012-11-02T15:47:46Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > When I was a kid, I never understood why wrestling crowds would chant “U-S-A! U-S-A!” during matches where both wrestlers were American. Greg Proops mentioned on his podcast that at some Republican rally… possibly for Romney? Two (male) protestors began passionately making out and the crowd began grunting “U-S-A! U-S-A!” which Mr. Proops apparently found as baffling a non-sequitur as I do. Or are we both misinformed? Does that neanderthal chant somehow have the ability to turn queers back into regular men like nature intended? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-about-climate-usa-usa/639651/19 "2012-11-02T15:49:47Z")
Maybe they thought _that_ was a wrestling match. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2012, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-about-climate-usa-usa/639651/20 "2012-11-03T13:43:19Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > When I was a kid, I never understood why wrestling crowds would chant “U-S-A! U-S-A!” during matches where both wrestlers were American. When I moved to the US, I didn’t understand why the national anthem was played before sporting events where both teams were American. > > Now I’m an adult, and I guess “U-S-A!” is about as cogent a response as the global warming deniers have come up with. My favorite was when fans would chant for Bret Hart (Alberta, Canada) when he wrestled Yokozuna (Hawaii, US). Same level of cluelessness in both crowds (and I’m a wrestling fan). [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-about-climate-usa-usa/639651.md?page=2)