# What About Pouring Hogs Blood on Terrorist As A Preventative Measure?

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [September 28, 2001, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-about-pouring-hogs-blood-on-terrorist-as-a-preventative-measure/84311 "2001-09-28T15:11:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2001, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-about-pouring-hogs-blood-on-terrorist-as-a-preventative-measure/84311/21 "2001-09-28T16:57:47Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Wildest Bill \*  
> Nice try but you got to remember we are talking about radical Muslims them not us. They kill Christians all the time over there do you really think it would bother me to pour hogs blood on people that so violently could care less about human lives? Heck they don’t even value their own life. Don’t ya’ll understand this goes a lot deeper than them just hating the US. I mean this is a Holy War.

Bill-would it bother you to make say, Fred Phelps wipe his ass with the Bible?

Should people who disagree with Christianity be allowed to go into a church and splatter feces all over the walls? Even if it were Phelps’s church, or Falwell’s?

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2001, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-about-pouring-hogs-blood-on-terrorist-as-a-preventative-measure/84311/22 "2001-09-28T17:14:29Z")

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Bill, with cowboy hat in hand, you should get to ride the first boudin cluster bomb released down into Afghanistan. Purity Of Essence, Brother.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2001, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-about-pouring-hogs-blood-on-terrorist-as-a-preventative-measure/84311/23 "2001-09-28T17:38:06Z")

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> ? Also are you saying it would upset every Muslim or just the radical ones if we did this?

All of them–a point that is obvious to everyone but you.

Just as in the example I gave, going after Catholic terrorists in the manner I described would irritate _all_ Catholics and, as has been pointed out by others, just as _you_ would be upset if we took every Christian terrorist and wiped their butts with the Bible.

Try reading what has been posted.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2001, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-about-pouring-hogs-blood-on-terrorist-as-a-preventative-measure/84311/24 "2001-09-28T18:12:12Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Wildest Bill \*  
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> I know ya’ll saying WHAT THE HECK???
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> But hear me out. I heard on a talk show the other day that a WWI general was having trouble with Islam terrorist killing off some of his troops so this is what he did. Supposably if you ever get hogs blood on you in the Islam religion, you can still go to Heaven but you can’t see Allah. And this really bothers them. So he rounded up a 100 terrorist, made them dig their own graves then poured hog’s blood all over them before he executed them. Then he let 10 go to tell the rest of their buddies what would happen to them if they did any more terrorism attacks.
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> The terrorists attacks stopped.\*\*

Urban legend.

Just as it is in Christianity, Muslims consider sins to be committed when they act in a sinful fashion. Covering them with pig’s blood doesn’t make THEM sinners any more than you would be a sinner if you were kidnapped on Sunday and couldn’t make it to church. Jeez, Bill, use your head. Why would THEY think they were sinning for something WE did?

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2001, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-about-pouring-hogs-blood-on-terrorist-as-a-preventative-measure/84311/25 "2001-09-28T18:36:38Z")

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> Urban legend.

Cite?

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**Author:** ![Wildest\_Bill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Wildest\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wildest_Bill)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2001, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-about-pouring-hogs-blood-on-terrorist-as-a-preventative-measure/84311/26 "2001-09-28T18:42:40Z")

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Rickjay,

I know it is silly but I if it worked back then(WWI scenerio) maybe it would work now. If it wasn’t true(inotherwords it is indeed an urban legend), then of course, you are right that it wouldn’t work.

Guin,

I’m sorry but your analogy doesn’t hold water. I don’t agree with the Muslim religion what so ever but I would never go into their churches and smere blood on them. I was talking about doing this to people that had something to do with crashing planes into buildings killing innocent people.

Andros,

Again, you are talking about defacing a Christian symbol I am talking about defacing a terrorist. Big difference.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2001, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-about-pouring-hogs-blood-on-terrorist-as-a-preventative-measure/84311/27 "2001-09-28T18:47:39Z")

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> Again, you are talking about defacing a Christian symbol I am talking about defacing a terrorist. Big difference.

Bill, I’m talking about offense to God, as you are talkign about offense to God. Please look past the purest literal understanding of my words to try to understand my point.

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**Author:** ![The\_Controvert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dec6dc/32.png) [@The\_Controvert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Controvert)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2001, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-about-pouring-hogs-blood-on-terrorist-as-a-preventative-measure/84311/28 "2001-09-28T18:50:10Z")

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How about we paint all airport walls and doors with pigs blood, offer passengers a fresh hot slice of bacon before entering (refusing to eat means a security check) and cover the boarding ramp with pork chops?

If it’s like Kryptonite, all the terrorists will henceforth avoid planes.

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2001, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-about-pouring-hogs-blood-on-terrorist-as-a-preventative-measure/84311/29 "2001-09-28T19:03:20Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Wildest Bill \*  
> **They kill Christians all the time over there do you really think it would bother me to pour hogs blood on people that so violently could care less about human lives? Heck they don’t even value their own life.**

It’s times like this where I _really_ wish we had a “put hand to forehead and shake head back and forth in incredulous disbelief” smiley. Closest we have now is :rolleyes:, and that doesn’t even _begin_ to address **Wildest Bill’s** level of ignorance and insensitivity.

Yeah, **Bill,** they’re all bloodthirsty killers with no regard for human life. And all Americans are decadent infidels whose women dress as whores and whose men are crazed gun-shootin’ cowboys.

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**Author:** ![Chez\_Guevara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/aeb1de/32.png) [@Chez\_Guevara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chez_Guevara)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2001, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-about-pouring-hogs-blood-on-terrorist-as-a-preventative-measure/84311/30 "2001-09-28T19:08:06Z")

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Kite.

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**Author:** ![Wildest\_Bill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Wildest\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wildest_Bill)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2001, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-about-pouring-hogs-blood-on-terrorist-as-a-preventative-measure/84311/31 "2001-09-28T19:19:49Z")

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> \*Originally posted by rjung \*
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> Yeah, **Bill,** they’re all bloodthirsty killers with no regard for human life. And all Americans are decadent infidels whose women dress as whores and whose men are crazed gun-shootin’ cowboys. \*\*

Man, alot of people on this board use absolutes on everything. What are you talking about rjung? The terrorist ARE bloodthirsty killers but they also happen to be a type of a mulsim that don’t dig on swine(got that from Pulp Fiction. I don’t think however that all women dress like that but the world would a better place if there were more crazed gun-shootin’ cowboys though. 😃

Controvert,

LOL too funny dude good and funny post. I especially like the bacon eating barrier at the airport. Hmmm, maybe we should REALLY do that one. I would feel safer except for my cholesterol level. 😉

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**Author:** ![drachillix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/48db29/32.png) [@drachillix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drachillix)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2001, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-about-pouring-hogs-blood-on-terrorist-as-a-preventative-measure/84311/32 "2001-09-28T19:47:13Z")

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> \*Originally posted by andros \*  
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> > Again, you are talking about defacing a Christian symbol I am talking about defacing a terrorist. Big difference.
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> Bill, I’m talking about offense to God, as you are talkign about offense to God. Please look past the purest literal understanding of my words to try to understand my point. \*\*

I could be wrong but I think an apt analogy would be forcing a christian to renounce his belief in God/Jesus, etc, since we don’t have an “equivalent sin” that I am aware of.

I could see where having the act forced upon you would not count as a sin, however if it was put as “if you kill a hostage you will be doused in pigs blood then killed.” they have the choice of not killing the hostage to avoid the greater of two evils."

Somebody call the israelis they deal with this stuff all the time.

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**Author:** ![frankhoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a698b9/32.png) [@frankhoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/frankhoma)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2001, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-about-pouring-hogs-blood-on-terrorist-as-a-preventative-measure/84311/33 "2001-09-28T20:26:34Z")

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I read a book I believe was titled “Gold of Exodus” that in the late 70’s or early 80’s Israel discovered that the Saudis where building a missle base. The Israelis knew that if they just bombed the base with conventional weapons WWIII would be on. Instead the Israelis bombed the base with live pigs.

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**Author:** ![Wildest\_Bill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Wildest\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wildest_Bill)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2001, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-about-pouring-hogs-blood-on-terrorist-as-a-preventative-measure/84311/34 "2001-09-28T20:39:55Z")

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Thanks for that Frank.

See maybe Wilber can save the day! That is SSSSSOOOMMMMEEEE PIG! 😃

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**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2001, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-about-pouring-hogs-blood-on-terrorist-as-a-preventative-measure/84311/35 "2001-09-28T20:45:45Z")

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What about the Christians who bomb abortion clinics and murder doctors?

Are they terrorists?

What should we do to them?

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**Author:** ![Wildest\_Bill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Wildest\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wildest_Bill)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2001, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-about-pouring-hogs-blood-on-terrorist-as-a-preventative-measure/84311/36 "2001-09-28T21:03:29Z")

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First,

You shouldn’t call them doctors. I doctor is a very respected profession that takes an oath to save lives. What those aholes do is pull a baby out limb by limb with salad forks. Call them what they are “butchers”(which really insults people that work with meat sorry meat workers). Maybe we should call the whacos that kill babies for money “Baby Terrorist”.

Secondly,

While I don’t agree with blowing up abortion clinics is how to fight this travesity in America, I can see why people are so upset that they would do it(blow them up).

What they should do is do everything in their power to make abortions illegal again.

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**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2001, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-about-pouring-hogs-blood-on-terrorist-as-a-preventative-measure/84311/37 "2001-09-28T21:15:43Z")

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Hypocrisy… hurting… head… must… lie down…

Esprix

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**Author:** ![Wildest\_Bill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Wildest\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wildest_Bill)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2001, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-about-pouring-hogs-blood-on-terrorist-as-a-preventative-measure/84311/38 "2001-09-28T21:20:18Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Esprix \*  
> \*\*Hypocrisy… hurting… head… must… lie down…
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> Esprix \*\*

Those BC powders work pretty good try one of those. 😉

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**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2001, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-about-pouring-hogs-blood-on-terrorist-as-a-preventative-measure/84311/39 "2001-09-28T21:30:01Z")

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> You shouldn’t call them doctors.

The AMA does, so why shouldn’t I?

**Bill** , I don’t think you are a Christian by any stretch of the imagination. You don’t practice love. You don’t practice charity. You would vivisect a terrorist with forks and pull his limbs apart one by one. After drowning him in bacon grease.

But evidently both you and your church disagrees with me. So who am I to argue?

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> While I don’t agree with blowing up abortion clinics is how to fight this travesity in America, I can see why people are so upset that they would do it(blow them up).

Ok, so while you may not agree that annihilating buildings in New York and DC is a valid way to fight America’s racist Zionism and its haphazard and selfish meddling in the Middle East, you can “see why people are so upset that they would blow them up.” Is this a justifiable interpolation of your position, **WB**?

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> What they should do is do everything in their power to make abortions illegal again.

Do you think murder is something the government should do its best to prevent?

Do you think that jeopardizing a religious criminal’s chances to achieve a blissful afterlife is an effectice deterrence?

Do you believe that abortion bombers believe strongly in the existence of such an afterlife?

Do you thus believe that every convicted abortion bomber should be made to violate _all_ of the Ten Commandments that do not infringe on the civil rights of others _and_ be forced to participate in every act of desecration found in that bible of the occult, the film _The Exorcist_?

Well?

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**Author:** ![Wildest\_Bill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Wildest\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wildest_Bill)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2001, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-about-pouring-hogs-blood-on-terrorist-as-a-preventative-measure/84311/40 "2001-09-28T21:45:19Z")

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[QUOTE]  
\*Originally posted by Maeglin \*

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> The AMA does, so why shouldn’t I?

Well let’s put it this way a bet the babies they pull out don’t think they are very good ahem “doctors”.

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> **Bill** , I don’t think you are a Christian by any stretch of the imagination. You don’t practice love. You don’t practice charity. You would vivisect a terrorist with forks and pull his limbs apart one by one. After drowning him in bacon grease.

You don’t know me. All you know about me is what you read on the goofy internet message board. Are you calling yourself a Christian by thinking abortiotn is just peachy ok? And what you like terrorist? What do you want to do with them give a welfare check maybe some gov’t housing?

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> Ok, so while you may not agree that annihilating buildings in New York and DC is a valid way to fight America’s racist Zionism and its haphazard and selfish meddling in the Middle East, you can “see why people are so upset that they would blow them up.” Is this a justifiable interpolation of your position, **WB**?

No I have no idea why they do that. They are nuts. People in those building were innocent. The pentagon could be percieved as a Military target but not with civilian aircraft. But bombing the WTC was pure hatred. The people that blow up abortion clinics like I said I do not agree with it. They are just at such a loss on why this country has stooped so low in its morality to making killing babies legal that is there way of coping with it.

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> Do you think murder is something the government should do its best to prevent?

You loss me what do you mean here?

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> Do you think that jeopardizing a religious criminal’s chances to achieve a blissful afterlife is an effectice deterrence?

I don’t know that is why I started the thread about it.

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> Do you believe that abortion bombers believe strongly in the existence of such an afterlife?

How would I know this? I don’t know what religion they are heck they could be an atheist that cares about the killing of innocent life.

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> Do you thus believe that every convicted abortion bomber should be made to violate _all_ of the Ten Commandments that do not infringe on the civil rights of others _and_ be forced to participate in every act of desecration found in that bible of the occult, the film _The Exorcist_?

No. Like I said you don’t know what religion they are besides they are Americans and they are protected by the constitution. These terrorist are foreign and we are at war with them 2 totally different things.

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