# What action movie was this?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** movies\
**Created:** [April 2, 2023, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-action-movie-was-this/982022 "2023-04-02T12:53:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-action-movie-was-this/982022/1 "2023-04-02T12:53:07Z")

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Female lead-she gets betrayed by her bad-guy lover who then shoots her, causing amnesia, so she tracks him down as a federal agent of some kind? I want to say 80’s? It wasn’t a big-name actress or someone like Cynthia Rothrock who had a few action movies to their name.

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**Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-action-movie-was-this/982022/2 "2023-04-02T13:11:46Z")

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_The Long Kiss Goodnight_?

> **[The Long Kiss Goodnight (1996) - IMDb](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116908/?ref_=ttpl_ov)**
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> The Long Kiss Goodnight: Directed by Renny Harlin. With Geena Davis, Samuel L. Jackson, Yvonne Zima, Craig Bierko. Samantha Caine lives in a small town with her daughter. Eight years ago she emerged, two months pregnant, from a nearby river with no...

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**Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-action-movie-was-this/982022/3 "2023-04-02T13:15:23Z")

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No, it was much lower priced than that. It had a name like “Perfect Assassin” or “Revenge Angel” or something like that. I want to say an 80’s film?

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-action-movie-was-this/982022/4 "2023-04-02T14:03:40Z")

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I did finally discover what it was by looking at the Netflix DVD thing since I had rented it in the past. Didn’t know it could be done. “Excessive Force: Force on Force” with Stacie Randall. Sorry if I wasted anyone’s time.

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**Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-action-movie-was-this/982022/5 "2023-04-02T16:17:12Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> “Excessive Force: Force on Force” with Stacie Randall.

That’s an awesome title (although it’s actually **Excessive Force II: Force on Force** , according to Wikipedia).

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-action-movie-was-this/982022/6 "2023-04-02T17:18:44Z")

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Thank you! And it has nothing to do with the first one from what I understand.

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**Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-action-movie-was-this/982022/7 "2023-04-02T17:23:45Z")

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Can we turn this into a game? The Austrian protagonist says to the bad guy, “Remember when I said I would kill you last? I lied.”

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**Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-action-movie-was-this/982022/8 "2023-04-02T18:58:57Z")

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Arnold Schwarzenegger to a bad guy in _ **Commando** _, just before he drops him off a cliff.

_“I let him go.”_

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-action-movie-was-this/982022/9 "2023-04-02T19:20:35Z")

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> [@hogarth](#):
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> **Excessive Force II: Force on Force**

This is the most 80’s movie title that ever movied.

I also want to point out that one of its credited actors is a gentleman named “Mandingo Warrior.” This is his only credit as an actor, but he does have a few credits as electrical crew.

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**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-action-movie-was-this/982022/10 "2023-04-02T19:38:31Z")

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I came here to mention Mandingo Warrior.

Also, the original “Excessive Force” starred Thomas Ian Griffith, of TV’s “Fame”.

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**Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-action-movie-was-this/982022/11 "2023-04-02T21:22:26Z")

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> [@hogarth](#):
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> That’s an awesome title

Eh, seems a little forced to me.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-action-movie-was-this/982022/12 "2023-04-03T00:57:26Z")

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> [@hogarth](#):
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> Excessive Force II: Force on Force

The Wikipedia article is just magnificent:

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> The film is a sequel to _[Excessive Force](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excessive_Force_(film))_ (1993), despite not bearing any relation to the original movie or its storyline.

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**Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-action-movie-was-this/982022/13 "2023-04-03T03:02:11Z")

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It made me think of the French film **Les ripoux** (Crooked Cops) which had a sequel **Ripoux contre ripoux** (Crooked Cops Vs. Crooked Cops).

And also **Ballistic: Ecks Vs. Sever**.

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**Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-action-movie-was-this/982022/14 "2023-04-03T03:34:44Z")

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> [@Wolf333](#):
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> Also, the original “Excessive Force” starred Thomas Ian Griffith, of TV’s “Fame”.

He’s famous mostly for playing Terry Silver in _Cobra Kai_ and, prior to that, _Karate Kid III._ Amazingly, the character he portrays in _Excessive Force_ is apparently also named Terry.

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**Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-action-movie-was-this/982022/15 "2023-04-03T03:43:19Z")

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> [@Biffster](#):
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> Can we turn this into a game? The Austrian protagonist says to the bad guy, “Remember when I said I would kill you last? I lied.”

Was that the first _ **Dagger** _ movie or _ **Dagger II: Double-Edged** _?

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**Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-action-movie-was-this/982022/16 "2023-04-03T06:21:38Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> Arnold Schwarzenegger to a bad guy in _ **Commando** _, just before he drops him off a cliff.
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> _“I let him go.”_

Exactement! As the French would say. 🕶

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**Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-action-movie-was-this/982022/17 "2023-04-03T06:23:33Z")

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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> Was that the first _ **Dagger** _ movie or _ **Dagger II: Double-Edged** _?

Swarzenegger in Commando. Lately I’ve been seeing all these deepfake TikTok’s of him in other films, so I guess he’s on my mind. The one from Titanic is hilarious!

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**Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-action-movie-was-this/982022/18 "2023-04-03T10:24:30Z")

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Awsome title or not? Not '80s but 2016.

**Popstar: Never Stop Never Stopping**

“Conner Friel is a musical prodigy at an early age, and he forms a pop rap group dubbed “The Style Boyz” with his childhood friends Lawrence Dunn and Owen Bouchard.”

Sadly, a sequel was cancelled!

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**Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-action-movie-was-this/982022/19 "2023-04-03T11:47:08Z")

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**Popstar: Never Stop Never Stopping** is, I feel the need to add, a deliberate boyband parody film starring Andy Samberg.

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> > [@hogarth](#):
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> > Excessive Force II: Force on Force
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> The Wikipedia article is just magnificent:
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> > The film is a sequel to _[Excessive Force](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excessive_Force_(film))_ (1993), despite not bearing any relation to the original movie or its storyline.

Ok, this may be a really stupid question, or maybe I just haven’t had enough coffee yet on a Monday morning, but how can it be considered a sequel if it is completely unrelated to the original? Just because they give it the same name and stick a “II” on the end it’s suddenly a “sequel”?

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