# What Aircraft Is This?

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [November 22, 2017, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-aircraft-is-this/802390 "2017-11-22T10:08:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![Cabin\_Fever\_1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cabin_fever_1/32/2908_2.png) [@Cabin\_Fever\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cabin_Fever_1)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-aircraft-is-this/802390/1 "2017-11-22T10:08:58Z")

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As an amateur ground-based member of the sapiens family who wishes to fly like a bird occasionally, I am stumped identifying this aircraft in this video. Can anyone fight my ignorance?

It is the black-fuselage-with-red-trim bird, and it looks like it would be fun to fly.

As a side note, I am watching "Airplane Repo" on TV. What a fun job that must be!

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-aircraft-is-this/802390/2 "2017-11-22T10:21:29Z")

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I would have said a [PZL M28 Skytruck](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PZL_M28_Skytruck); the type is in service with the Luftwaffe. But the cockpit seems wrong.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 10:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-aircraft-is-this/802390/3 "2017-11-22T10:27:37Z")

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Missed Edit: Forget that, I would say its a variation of the [OV10 Bronco](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Rockwell_OV-10_Bronco#Germany), which the Germans use as a target tug, with the exception of the fact that the Duetchland Broncos have been long retired.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-aircraft-is-this/802390/4 "2017-11-22T10:50:48Z")

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Yes, OV-10 Bronco. The USMC unit I belonged to, 3d ANGLICO, would parachute out of those. OV-10 water jumps were fun to see — the plane would fly low and fast over the water, parallel to the deck, and at the jump point the pilot would pull up hard. The OV-10 would climb at a steep angle, nearly vertical, and at the designated altitude the jumpers would drop out its ass end. The OV-10 would then peel over and fly away. Fun to watch, but no fun for me since I transferred to an artillery unit before I could go to jump school.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-aircraft-is-this/802390/5 "2017-11-22T12:32:20Z")

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That is one ugly plane.

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**Author:** ![Xema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9de053/32.png) [@Xema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xema)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-aircraft-is-this/802390/6 "2017-11-22T13:45:57Z")

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The fact that it’s part of a flight of two suggests that they were off on a mission to get some in-flight photos (or video) of the Honda Jet. At 2:25 in the video you see a rear view of the OV-10, showing what looks like a photographer facing aft.

So I Googled “Honda Jet alps” and came up with [this link](https://www.forbes.com/sites/businessaviation/2015/12/13/whats-next-for-honda-aircraft/), which indeed shows that same jet over the alps.

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**Author:** ![Cabin\_Fever\_1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cabin_fever_1/32/2908_2.png) [@Cabin\_Fever\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cabin_Fever_1)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-aircraft-is-this/802390/7 "2017-11-22T14:27:34Z")

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Wow. Thanks for the quick replies. I noticed the Deutchland insignia markings and in one shot someone sitting in the ass-end of the bird. I just never saw this plane before in all of my aviation watching.

I was also surprised to see HONDA inscribed on the engines of the trailing jet. Do they make jet engines, or was that a marketing gimmick?

Thanks again dopers. You guys rock!

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**Author:** ![Cabin\_Fever\_1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cabin_fever_1/32/2908_2.png) [@Cabin\_Fever\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cabin_Fever_1)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-aircraft-is-this/802390/8 "2017-11-22T14:34:35Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> That is one ugly plane.

(Laughing) So ugly that it is beautiful in a way that defies logic.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-aircraft-is-this/802390/9 "2017-11-22T14:38:08Z")

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Definitely a Bronco. (I made a Revell model kit of one when I was a kid - in Vietnam-era USMC livery, I think). Here are some other pics of Luftwaffe Broncos similar to those in the video:

[![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b6/North_American_OV-10_Bronco_RAF_Brize_Norton.jpg/1024px-North_American_OV-10_Bronco_RAF_Brize_Norton.jpg) ](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b6/North_American_OV-10_Bronco_RAF_Brize_Norton.jpg/1024px-North_American_OV-10_Bronco_RAF_Brize_Norton.jpg)  
[![](http://www.flugzeuginfo.net/acimages/ov10_kp.jpg) ](http://www.flugzeuginfo.net/acimages/ov10_kp.jpg)  
[http://www.ov-10bronco.net/Pix/OBA/GermanWing/ov10b\_gwoba\_fassberg\_july00\_talemans\_03\_smaller.jpg](http://www.ov-10bronco.net/Pix/OBA/GermanWing/ov10b_gwoba_fassberg_july00_talemans_03_smaller.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Cabin\_Fever\_1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cabin_fever_1/32/2908_2.png) [@Cabin\_Fever\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cabin_Fever_1)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-aircraft-is-this/802390/10 "2017-11-22T14:42:53Z")

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> [@Xema](#):
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> The fact that it’s part of a flight of two suggests that they were off on a mission to get some in-flight photos (or video) of the Honda Jet. At 2:25 in the video you see a rear view of the OV-10, showing what looks like a photographer facing aft.
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> So I Googled “Honda Jet alps” and came up with [this link](https://www.forbes.com/sites/businessaviation/2015/12/13/whats-next-for-honda-aircraft/), which indeed shows that same jet over the alps.

Thanks Xema. I had no idea Honda made business-class jets. (I have two of their generators though ;)).

I may need to get out more and visit some airports, but with tourist season being over here, I may have to wait until spring.

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**Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-aircraft-is-this/802390/11 "2017-11-22T14:59:40Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Definitely a Bronco. (I made a Revell model kit of one when I was a kid - in Vietnam-era USMC livery, I think). Here are some other pics of Luftwaffe Broncos similar to those in the video:
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> [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b6/North\_American\_OV-10\_Bronco\_RAF\_Brize\_Norton.jpg/1024px-North\_American\_OV-10\_Bronco\_RAF\_Brize\_Norton.jpg](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b6/North_American_OV-10_Bronco_RAF_Brize_Norton.jpg/1024px-North_American_OV-10_Bronco_RAF_Brize_Norton.jpg)  
> [http://www.flugzeuginfo.net/acimages/ov10\_kp.jpg](http://www.flugzeuginfo.net/acimages/ov10_kp.jpg)  
> [ov-10bronch.net -](http://www.ov-10bronco.net/Pix/OBA/GermanWing/ov10b_gwoba_fassberg_july00_talemans_03_smaller.jpg)

Thank Elendil’s Heir.  
What a world we live in. Connected by a few electrons and discovering there is an actual website celebrating the [OV-10 Bronco](http://www.ov-10bronco.net/). Originally from July 1965. I was just a wee lad about then

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**Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-aircraft-is-this/802390/12 "2017-11-22T15:28:37Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Definitely a Bronco. (I made a Revell model kit of one when I was a kid - in Vietnam-era USMC livery, I think). Here are some other pics of Luftwaffe Broncos similar to those in the video

Me, too! I recognized it from the little snippet in the “You may skip this ad in…” button.

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**Author:** ![Xema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9de053/32.png) [@Xema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xema)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-aircraft-is-this/802390/13 "2017-11-22T15:36:40Z")

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> [@Cabin\_Fever](#):
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> I was also surprised to see HONDA inscribed on the engines of the trailing jet. Do they make jet engines, or was that a marketing gimmick?

The engines are made by GE, to Honda’s specifications.

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**Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-aircraft-is-this/802390/14 "2017-11-22T15:39:28Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Me, too! I recognized it from the little snippet in the “You may skip this ad in…” button.

Me three! I recognized the OV-10 right away.

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**Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-aircraft-is-this/802390/15 "2017-11-22T15:41:45Z")

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> [@Xema](#):
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> The engines are made by GE, to Honda’s specifications.

Officially they are made by [GE Honda Aero Engines](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GE_Honda_Aero_Engines), a joint venture between GE and Honda. But your statement might be closer to reality.

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**Post date:** [November 22, 2017, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-aircraft-is-this/802390/16 "2017-11-22T15:50:09Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> That is one ugly plane.

I disagree. When I was a kid who built airplane models, the OV-10 Bronco was one of my faves.

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**Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-aircraft-is-this/802390/17 "2018-05-17T14:44:57Z")

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Bumped.

There’s a good article about the Bronco, “A Low, Slow Plane for Limited War,” on pp. 12-13 of the April issue of _Naval History_. Worth a read.

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**Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-aircraft-is-this/802390/18 "2018-05-17T19:37:47Z")

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Click on “SHOW MORE” on the video page. All the information is there.

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**Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-aircraft-is-this/802390/19 "2018-05-17T20:21:27Z")

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Oh yeah! The Bronco is one of my “win the lottery big time planes”. Nice 200 mph cruise, strong power to weight and you just can’t beat that visibility! Now for those winning numbers…

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**Post date:** [May 17, 2018, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-aircraft-is-this/802390/20 "2018-05-17T21:20:28Z")

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Broncos were ground attack planes, too.

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