# What am I missing about the Epstein files? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [December 18, 2025, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-am-i-missing-about-the-epstein-files/1025811 "2025-12-18T04:57:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2025, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-am-i-missing-about-the-epstein-files/1025811/41 "2025-12-21T06:19:09Z")
You’ve got a point there. If there is one thing Trump actually is the world’s best at, it’s getting off on a technicality. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2025, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-am-i-missing-about-the-epstein-files/1025811/42 "2025-12-21T16:37:41Z")
There’s no useable criminal proof because Trump is destroying all of the evidence. And, hey, isn’t that itself a crime? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2025, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-am-i-missing-about-the-epstein-files/1025811/43 "2025-12-21T19:59:40Z")
Likely there never was. But trumps minions certainly are- just like I predicted- getting rid of the most embarrassing and nasty stuff for him. Stuff that would hint strongly of illegal escapades. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2025, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-am-i-missing-about-the-epstein-files/1025811/44 "2025-12-21T21:03:34Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Likely there never was. Almost guaranteed that there was. There’s no way Trump would turn down the opportunity to do, well, anything, and Epstein was literally in the business of collecting blackmail on the rich and powerful, so whatever happened, there was evidence of it. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2025, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-am-i-missing-about-the-epstein-files/1025811/45 "2025-12-21T22:00:27Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Almost guaranteed that there was. There’s no way Trump would turn down the opportunity to do, well, anything, and Epstein was literally in the business of collecting blackmail on the rich and powerful, so whatever happened, there was evidence of it. But was any of that in the so called magic ”files’ that the grand jury saw. I doubt it. Is there any evidence there was? Or do you mean Epstein might have collected some stuff that is hidden away, not part of these files? Possible. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2025, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-am-i-missing-about-the-epstein-files/1025811/46 "2025-12-21T22:20:48Z")
Epstein definitely had it. What happened to it after that, I don’t know. Maybe he had it physically hidden, buried in some hole somewhere or something. Maybe it was on a computer with a suicide-switch set to delete 30 days after he last accessed it. Maybe law enforcement did find it, and (for whatever reason) didn’t do anything with it. But it’s beyond belief to suppose that he never had it. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2025, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-am-i-missing-about-the-epstein-files/1025811/47 "2025-12-21T22:27:32Z")
If you want to believe that, I see your point and accept it. I would say a “definite maybe” that anything like that existed after his death. Or even a “pretty likely”. But nothing like that seems to have ever been in these GJ files, and certainly not there now. I am talking solid criminal evidence. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2025, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-am-i-missing-about-the-epstein-files/1025811/48 "2025-12-22T01:11:40Z")
Would it be reasonable of me to assume that every redacted page is just somehow covering up for Trump? ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2025, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-am-i-missing-about-the-epstein-files/1025811/49 "2025-12-22T01:13:19Z")
Yeah. Either something that harms Trump directly or hurts a friend of his. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2025, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-am-i-missing-about-the-epstein-files/1025811/50 "2025-12-22T01:16:05Z")
A what of his? ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2025, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-am-i-missing-about-the-epstein-files/1025811/51 "2025-12-22T01:19:17Z")
Never heard “lack of evidence” described as a “technicality” before, but nothing about this circus surprises me. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2025, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-am-i-missing-about-the-epstein-files/1025811/52 "2025-12-22T02:12:27Z")
Perhaps if someone had paid attention to the survivors there would have been some/more evidence. Just a thought. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2025, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-am-i-missing-about-the-epstein-files/1025811/53 "2025-12-22T02:22:49Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > Would it be reasonable of me to assume that every redacted page is just somehow covering up for Trump? Also people who were underage or victims. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2025, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-am-i-missing-about-the-epstein-files/1025811/54 "2025-12-22T08:22:55Z")
Presumably listening to the victims is what resulted in charges against Epstein and Maxwell. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2025, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-am-i-missing-about-the-epstein-files/1025811/55 "2025-12-22T15:07:59Z")
Many reports/statements were ignored for decades. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2025, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-am-i-missing-about-the-epstein-files/1025811/56 "2025-12-22T16:50:16Z")
It says “likes” rather than “liked”, which is a clue 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-am-i-missing-about-the-epstein-files/1025811.md?page=2)