# What an outstanding inaugural speech! **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 20, 2017, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639 "2017-01-20T17:20:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2017, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/121 "2017-01-20T23:50:02Z")
> [@G-SE](#): > > You mean to say, ‘Michael Obama has more grace and dignity in her penis than…’ > > Adios Obama and your giantic tranny husband, don’t let the door hit you on the way out. Trump’s speech was great, and I can’t wait for him to start dismantling the past 8 years of Obama’s mistakes. God forbid a woman be tall and black! How dare she? ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2017, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/122 "2017-01-20T23:51:28Z")
> [@G-SE](#): > > You mean to say, ‘Michael Obama has more grace and dignity in her penis than…’ > > Adios Obama and your giantic tranny husband, don’t let the door hit you on the way out. Trump’s speech was great, and I can’t wait for him to start dismantling the past 8 years of Obama’s mistakes. Dude, you do know there are actual transgender and black female posters here to be insulted by this, right? ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2017, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/123 "2017-01-20T23:52:12Z")
> [@G-SE](#): > > You mean to say, ‘Michael Obama has more grace and dignity in her penis than…’ > > Adios Obama and your giantic tranny husband, don’t let the door hit you on the way out. Trump’s speech was great, and I can’t wait for him to start dismantling the past 8 years of Obama’s mistakes. This is a warning for hate speech. This is not welcome in any place on this message board. Do not do this again. [/moderating] ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2017, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/124 "2017-01-20T23:54:28Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Always nice for bigots to out themselves. God forbid a woman be tall and black! How dare she? In the future, please report rather than respond in a way that seems to attack other posters. [/moderating] ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2017, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/125 "2017-01-20T23:55:33Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > In the future, please report rather than respond in a way that seems to attack other posters. > > [/moderating] Yeah, I caught myself and edited my own post even before yours. You might say I moderated myself. ---
**Author:** ![G-SE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f0a364/32.png) [@G-SE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G-SE)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2017, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/126 "2017-01-20T23:56:58Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > This is a warning for hate speech. This is not welcome in any place on this message board. Do not do this again. > [/moderating] Why did you take it as a bad thing? I thought transsexuals were beautiful heroes to be admired? I was giving him/her a compliment I thought. Geez, snowflakes be sensitive today! ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/127 "2017-01-21T00:16:26Z")
> [@G-SE](#): > > Why did you take it as a bad thing? I thought transsexuals were beautiful heroes to be admired? I was giving him/her a compliment I thought. Geez, snowflakes be sensitive today! So you’re saying you think Michelle Obama is a beautiful and you admire her? As opposed to insulting her for the crime of being a tall and black woman? ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/128 "2017-01-21T00:30:08Z")
> [@G-SE](#): > > Why did you take it as a bad thing? I thought transsexuals were beautiful heroes to be admired? I was giving him/her a compliment I thought. Geez, snowflakes be sensitive today! This “snowflake” meme, does it come from the same alt-right insult hymnal? ---
**Author:** ![sleestak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@sleestak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleestak)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/129 "2017-01-21T00:34:40Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Slightly OT, but I completely agree with you that it is entirely defensible to disregard entomology when considering controversial usages of terms that seem like ethnic slurs but aren’t. 😃 > > - > > The Plover and the Clover can be told apart with ease, > By paying close attention to the habits of the Bees, > For Entomologists aver, the Bee can be in Clover, > While Etymologists concur, there is no B in Plover. > \* > — R. W. Wood > > More seriously, while I naturally mourn the inevitable passing from common usage of fascinating words and phrases merely because they superficially resemble disfavored derogatory terms that they’re not actually related to, I got no time whatever for the trolls and linguistic Old-Guarders who insist on continuing to use such words and phrases _even when they know perfectly well that those superficial resemblances make such usage distasteful to many people_. > > Yes, yes, we admire how smart and knowledgeable you are for being aware that “niggardly” is not actually etymologically connected to the n-word. Here’s a cookie. :rolleyes: But be warned that deliberately choosing to use that word when you know that many less well-informed people will be startled and/or offended by the sound of it doesn’t make you look erudite or principled. It makes you look at best like kind of a pompous asshole, and at worst like a full-on racist troll. > > [/hijack] In other words pander to the stupid people in case they, in their stupidity, might be offended. Got a question. What do I call [this](https://www.woodcraft.com/products/downloadable-woodworking-project-plan-to-build-fail-safe-router-jig?gclid=CNzV1Nr-0dECFUtNfgod3S0PgQ)now since stupid people might get insulted? Slee ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/130 "2017-01-21T00:42:14Z")
As much as I personally enjoy the schadenfreude from seeing the smaller turnout for today’s inauguration, it really should be pointed out that it was raining today. Of course, the fact that it was raining also makes it easier to show that the photos being touted for today’s turnout show the sun shining. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/131 "2017-01-21T00:43:00Z")
> [@sleestak](#): > > In other words pander to the stupid people in case they, in their stupidity, might be offended. > > Got a question. What do I call [this](https://www.woodcraft.com/products/downloadable-woodworking-project-plan-to-build-fail-safe-router-jig?gclid=CNzV1Nr-0dECFUtNfgod3S0PgQ)now since stupid people might get insulted? > > Slee How about “guide”? That was easy. ---
**Author:** ![jshore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5e925/32.png) [@jshore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jshore)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/132 "2017-01-21T00:43:32Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > The greatest part of today was watching Obama (and his family) leaving. The cloud has finally lifted. Indeed, the cloud of intelligent analysis, critical thinking, and respect for science and data has lifted and now the sunlight of ignorance, bigotry, jingoism, faux-populism, and simple slogans to “solve” complex issues can now shine through. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/133 "2017-01-21T01:01:04Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > As much as I personally enjoy the schadenfreude from seeing the smaller turnout for today’s inauguration, it really should be pointed out that it was raining today. Better warm and drizzly (2017) than freezing and sunny (2009). ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/134 "2017-01-21T01:01:46Z")
A few words from the right wingers that are still aware of the problems we are getting into: > **[A Most Dreadful Inaugural Address | National Review](https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/01/donald-trump-inaugural-address-dreadful/)** > > President Trump vindicated his severest critics by serving up re-heated campaign rhetoric. [QUOTE=George Will] President Trump vindicated his severest critics by serving up reheated campaign rhetoric. Twenty minutes into his presidency, Donald Trump, who is always claiming to have made, or to be about to make, astonishing history, had done so. Living down to expectations, he had delivered the most dreadful inaugural address in history. Kellyanne Conway, Trump’s White House counselor, had promised that the speech would be “elegant.” This is not the adjective that came to mind as he described “American carnage.” That was a phrase the likes of which has never hitherto been spoken at an inauguration. Oblivious to the moment and the setting, the always remarkable Trump proved that something dystopian can be strangely exhilarating: In what should have been a civic liturgy serving national unity and confidence, he vindicated his severest critics by serving up reheated campaign rhetoric about “rusted out factories scattered like tombstones across the landscape” and an education system producing students “deprived of all knowledge.” Yes, all. [/QUOTE] > [@](#): > > Trump, a Gatsby for our time, said: “What truly matters is not which party controls our government but whether our government is controlled by the people.” Well. > > “A dependence on the people,” James Madison wrote, “is, no doubt, the primary control on the government; but experience has taught mankind the necessity of auxiliary precautions.” He meant the checks and balances of our constitutional architecture. They are necessary because, as Madison anticipated and as the nation was reminded on Friday, “Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm.” ---
**Author:** ![Leo\_Krupe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@Leo\_Krupe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Krupe)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/135 "2017-01-21T01:18:56Z")
I respect (but still don’t like) George Will. With **GIGObuster** ’s quote though, I kind of like him. Trump is the dog that caught the car. What’s he going to do with it? ---
**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/136 "2017-01-21T01:21:49Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > A few words from the right wingers that are still aware of the problems we are getting into: > > [Donald Trump’s Inaugural Address: Dreadful | National Review](http://www.nationalreview.com/article/444077/donald-trump-inaugural-address-dreadful) George Will is still an angry #nevertrumper who refuses to admit he was wrong. Kind of like Eric Erickson. > [@jshore](#): > > Indeed, the cloud of intelligent analysis, critical thinking, and respect for science and data has lifted and now the sunlight of ignorance, bigotry, jingoism, faux-populism, and simple slogans to “solve” complex issues can now shine through. Again, I feel I must ask-- what have you guys and gals been paying attention to the last eight years? ---
**Author:** ![Leo\_Krupe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@Leo\_Krupe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Krupe)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/137 "2017-01-21T01:27:46Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > George Will is still an angry #nevertrumper who refuses to admit he was wrong. You know who else never admits he’s wrong? > [@](#): > > Again, I feel I must ask-- what have you guys and gals been paying attention to the last eight years? Reality. (Not the “As Seen On TV!” kind, either) ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/138 "2017-01-21T01:31:35Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > George Will is still an angry #nevertrumper who refuses to admit he was wrong. Kind of like Eric Erickson. Wrong with what? For sure he was thinking that Trump will not win, but he was correct about Trump’s followers changing the Republican party, and for the worst. > **[How Donald Trump Outsmarted George Will](https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2016/11/how-donald-trump-outsmarted-george-will.html)** > > The conservative intellectual class is streaking alone. > [@](#): > > It is not only conservative leaders like Ryan (and Ted Cruz, and Marco Rubio) who have fallen behind Trump, but the followers, too. A recent Pew survey finds that three-quarters of conservative Republicans believe Trump represents their party’s core principles, while only half of moderate and liberal Republicans agree. It is the GOP’s tiny, withered left flank, not its bulging right one, that has put up the most resistance to the nominee. Among the rank and file, enthusiasm for Trump burns hot. Sean Hannity, who has positioned himself as among Trump’s most obsequious defenders, has seen his ratings soar. Members of Congress like Joe Heck and Jason Chaffetz, who disendorsed Trump, have come crawling back. George P. Bush has declared his support for the man who viciously bullied his father, which is like Marty McFly voting for Biff Tannen. Almost everybody who craves a future in Republican politics has concluded that their career depends on endorsing Trump. > > The point is not at all to gloat at the failure of anti-Trump conservatives, but to explain the source of their error. You can’t heal an illness you’ve diagnosed improperly. Anti-Trump conservatives deluded themselves about the source of conservatism’s electoral appeal. Trump’s long list of deviations from party orthodoxy — on health care, abortion, support for the Clintons — would have destroyed a normal candidacy, the way Rick Perry’s support for humane treatment of undocumented immigrants killed his candidacy in 2012. > > Why did Republican primary voters forgive Trump’s heresies? Because the power of the charge of un-conservative behavior is the implication that you are not really on our side. Trump proved to the party base he was one of them through his racism, sexism, and blunt nationalism. Those impulses are the essence of conservative political identity at the voting level. Political scientist Matt Grossman has a new poll of Michigan statewide voters. Look at the responses to the question of whether generations of slavery and discrimination have made it harder for African-Americans to rise, sorted by presidential-vote preference. People who like Clinton are the ones who acknowledge that black people face structural disadvantages, and people who like Trump are the ones who deny it: > > [Graph] > > The most important analytical failure of the anti-Trump conservatives is their blindness to the centrality of white racial backlash. They simply cannot imagine how movement conservatism could result in bigoted authoritarianism, and their confusion produces absurdity. Erick Erickson, the conservative pundit who has fiercely opposed Trump, today defends Rush Limbaugh, even though Limbaugh is defending the candidate. Erickson argues that Limbaugh’s brand of conservatism is exactly what the party needed all along. “If Republicans lamenting Trump and hating on Rush had only listened to Rush and taken his counsel that he gives for free three hours a day, five days a week, the GOP would not be in this mess,” he reasons. Yes – Trump’s popularity clearly demonstrates that a racist, misogynist, conspiracy-mongering bully-entertainer has had too little influence. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/139 "2017-01-21T01:36:06Z")
> [@G-SE](#): > > Why did you take it as a bad thing? I thought transsexuals were beautiful heroes to be admired? I was giving him/her a compliment I thought. Geez, snowflakes be sensitive today! Your side is overplaying your hand. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/140 "2017-01-21T01:39:35Z")
> [@G-SE](#): > > Why did you take it as a bad thing? I thought transsexuals were beautiful heroes to be admired? I was giving him/her a compliment I thought. Geez, snowflakes be sensitive today! Questions about moderation belong in ATMB. Even your comments here are bordering on inappropriate. [/moderating] [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639.md?page=8)