# What an outstanding inaugural speech! **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 20, 2017, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639 "2017-01-20T17:20:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/141 "2017-01-21T01:40:05Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > Again, I feel I must ask-- what have you guys and gals been paying attention to the last eight years? It seems that you also missed what Neil DeGrasse Tyson told about how the republicans were becoming the ignorant party. > **[Neil deGrasse Tyson on Science Literacy (Part Two) | Moyers & Company |...](https://billmoyers.com/episode/neil-degrasse-tyson-on-science-literacy/)** > > Bill talks with the astrophysicist about why science literacy is critical to the future of our democracy, economy and standing in the world. > [@](#): > > BILL MOYERS: Let’s talk politics for a moment. > > NEIL DEGRASSE TYSON: Go for it. > > BILL MOYERS: All right. According to the Pew Research Center, back in 2009, a comfortable majority of Republicans accepted human evolution as a fact. But now, a plurality rejects it. So I ask you, politics can trump science, can’t it? > > NEIL DEGRASSE TYSON: Well, in a free, elected democracy, of course. You vote who you want on your school board. There is no provision in the constitution for the government to establish what’s taught in schools. That’s all relegated to the states. Hence, we speak state to state about what’s in their science textbook versus another. > > And so that’s the country we’ve all sort of bought into, if you will, or born into. I think it’s a self-correcting phenomenon. Nobody wants to die, okay? So we all care about health. But above all else, among the Republicans I know, especially Republicans, nobody wants to die poor, okay? > > So educated Republicans know the value of innovations in science and technology for the thriving of an economy and business and industry. They know this. \* If you put something that is not science in a science classroom, pass it off as science, then you are undermining an entire enterprise that was responsible for creating the wealth that we have come to take for granted in this country. So we’re already fading economically. If this, if that trend continues, some Republican is going to wake up and say, “Look guys, we got to split these two. We have to. Otherwise, we will doom ourselves to poverty.” And so I see it as a self-correcting, I don’t know when it’ll happen, but they know. \*\* > > BILL MOYERS: So what do you think’s at stake? What’s at stake– > > NEIL DEGRASSE TYSON: What’s at– > > BILL MOYERS: --for democracy? > > NEIL DEGRASSE TYSON: Oh no, it’s not, the democracy will still be here. It’s a matter of we’re just voting into office people who don’t understand how to make, how money gets generated. In, you know, since the Industrial Revolution and before, we have known the value of innovation in science and technology and its impact on an economy. > > If that begins to go away, it’s a different country. We’ll still call ourselves America, but we won’t lead the world economically. And that’s a choice we are making as an elective democracy. - Like George Will, although he dabbled in a bit of climate change denial too. \*\* Unfortunately, most demonstrated that they do not know and so we head into years of things getting a bit darker. A video to remind all about what the Republican leaders were doing about climate change, and now they got the President as supporter of that willful ignorance. [QUOTE] [Jon Stewart reports on] The historic People's Climate March takes place in New York City while a House of Representatives committee struggles with the basic principles of global warming. [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/142 "2017-01-21T02:00:34Z")
George Will is a pompous turd and a dime-store Bill Buckley, but my hat’s off to him for the excellent use of the word “remarkable.” Just like Herbert Lom’s dead-pan line about Peter Sellers in A SHOT IN THE DARK, the 1963 “Inspector Clouseau” film. Funniest line in the movie. Commissioner Dreyfus: “Clouseau is…a _remarkable_ man.” ---
**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/143 "2017-01-21T02:00:50Z")
> [@Leo\_Krupe](#): > > You know who else never admits he’s wrong? No, who? > [@](#): > > Reality. (Not the “As Seen On TV!” kind, either) I don’t think you have been. I think you’ve chosen to believe a set of lies which confirm to your own personal viewpoint. > [@GIGObuster](#): > > Wrong with what? For sure he was thinking that Trump will not win, but he was correct about Trump’s followers changing the Republican party, and for the worst. > > [How Donald Trump Outsmarted George Will](http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/11/how-donald-trump-outsmarted-george-will.html) He convinced himself that he was the smartest conservative in the room (well, him and his fellow #nevertrumpers, anyway), and begun talking down to his readership while advocating for the same types of candidates who were your regular establishment types that he once, at least, seemed to reject. He was ready to go, and did go, full “I told you so”, until Trump won. And instead of admitting that he was wrong and that perhaps he wasn’t the smartest conservative in the room, he’s doubled down on his histrionics. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/144 "2017-01-21T02:15:24Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > I don’t think you have been. I think you’ve chosen to believe a set of lies which confirm to your own personal viewpoint. So what’s the bug up your ass about? I’m curious. You don’t like that we’re not in a serious economic depression? You loved the Cuban embargo? You don’t think poor people deserve medical care? You hate Sonia Sotomayor? Which of these things are “lies” of the sinister liberal media? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/145 "2017-01-21T02:18:07Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > He convinced himself that he was the smartest conservative in the room (well, him and his fellow #nevertrumpers, anyway), and begun talking down to his readership while advocating for the same types of candidates who were your regular establishment types that he once, at least, seemed to reject. He was ready to go, and did go, full “I told you so”, until Trump won. And instead of admitting that he was wrong and that perhaps he wasn’t the smartest conservative in the room, he’s doubled down on his histrionics. I think you never saw me telling George how dumb he was in a few climate change threads. In any case the point was that indeed not all Republicans think it is a good idea to follow Trump to the brink. > **[Republican senator on Trump's views: 'Sound science is this: Vaccines save...](https://www.businessinsider.com/senators-reject-trump-anti-vaccination-2017-1)** > > Donald Trump could face significant backlash in Congress if he tries to advance the anti-vaccine movement as president. [http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/lawmaker-news/314343-9-gop-senators-trump-must-watch-out-for](http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/lawmaker-news/314343-9-gop-senators-trump-must-watch-out-for) ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/146 "2017-01-21T03:06:51Z")
> [@G-SE](#): > > Why did you take it as a bad thing? I thought transsexuals were beautiful heroes to be admired? I was giving him/her a compliment I thought. Geez, snowflakes be sensitive today! aww, fuckit - not worth it. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/147 "2017-01-21T03:16:39Z")
For me, the big takeaway, even bigger than Trump pretending that our cities were still in _Escape From New York_ mode, was what he said about where America’s wealth goes, that keeps it out of the hands of hardworking middle class white people where it belongs. Trump said it all goes overseas, which is bullshit, of course: it’s all going to the top 0.1%. “America First” is a big “look over there!” to distract the voters while the Koch brothers and the DeVos family and the like continue to plunder America for their own benefit. It’ll probably work, too. ---
**Author:** ![arfurvirus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@arfurvirus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/arfurvirus)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/148 "2017-01-21T03:20:50Z")
It was real. We haven’t had a president cross the isles to be elected the way Trump has since Reagan. Dems, Republicans, Independents, Whites, Blacks, Hispanics Blue collar Union people, Small Business owners, … The People Elected him. We didn’t hear him say I, My, I, I, I, My… ala Obama all speech long. God was openly invoked, appreciated, acknowledged, and invited too! He finally called a spade a spade . " Radical Islam" The words not uttered in the last 8 years. He spoke as America. Thank You God, and Thank You President Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Darwins\_Finch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darwins_finch/32/20304_2.png) [@Darwins\_Finch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darwins_Finch)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/149 "2017-01-21T03:25:34Z")
> [@arfurvirus](#): > > He finally called a spade a spade . " Radical Islam" The words not uttered in the last 8 years. Finally, he spoke the Magic Words! Now there will finally be peace in the Middle East! ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/150 "2017-01-21T03:26:07Z")
Mercifully short. (Why do we do this when the weather is so bad?) He seems to honestly think “Buy American and Hire American” will make a difference. ---
**Author:** ![arfurvirus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@arfurvirus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/arfurvirus)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/151 "2017-01-21T03:34:14Z")
> [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](#): > > Mercifully short. (Why do we do this when the weather is so bad?) He seems to honestly think “Buy American and Hire American” will make a difference. It was between Kennedy’s and Johnson’s addresses in length. Perfect. Buy American and hire American is a mindset. It’s indicative of the “America First” platform on which he ran, and sure beats give away Trillions overseas or Pay off Iran today so they can build nukes tomorrow. As well as the build roads in Afghanistan to bomb and rebuild them which has been going on the last 15 years. Take care of U.S., so we can again become the beacon of light to humanity and reach for the stars, while we develop humanity serving tech. Good idea, and a welcome change of policy/outlook. ---
**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/152 "2017-01-21T03:38:36Z")
Obama was unpresidented. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/153 "2017-01-21T03:40:36Z")
> [@arfurvirus](#): > > It was between Kennedy’s and Johnson’s addresses in length. Perfect. > > Buy American and hire American is a mindset. It’s indicative of the “America First” platform on which he ran, and sure beats give away Trillions overseas or Pay off Iran today so they can build nukes tomorrow. As well as the build roads in Afghanistan to bomb and rebuild them which has been going on the last 15 years. > > Take care of U.S., so we can again become the beacon of light to humanity and reach for the stars, while we develop humanity serving tech. > > Good idea, and a welcome change of policy/outlook. You really are a bit of a kook, aren’t you? ---
**Author:** ![Leo\_Krupe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@Leo\_Krupe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Krupe)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/154 "2017-01-21T03:42:05Z")
> [@arfurvirus](#): > > It was real. > > We haven’t had a president cross the isles to be elected the way Trump has since Reagan. > Dems, Republicans, Independents, Whites, Blacks, Hispanics Blue collar Union people, Small Business owners, … The People Elected him. > > We didn’t hear him say I, My, I, I, I, My… ala Obama all speech long. > God was openly invoked, appreciated, acknowledged, and invited too! > > He finally called a spade a spade . " Radical Islam" The words not uttered in the last 8 years. > > He spoke as America. > > Thank You God, and Thank You President Trump. This has to be a whoosh, right? If not, that’s some serious denial going on. When will Trump reveal his plan to defeat ISIS? Remember this? > [@](#): > > “All I can tell you it is a foolproof way of winning, and I’m not talking about what some people would say, but it is a foolproof way of winning the war with ISIS." > > “I know more about ISIS than the generals do,” he said in a rambling Iowa speech in November. “Believe me.” [https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/09/07/donald-trump-said-he-had-a-secret-plan-to-defeat-isis-as-of-now-hes-not-planning-to-use-it/?utm\_term=.f75a7109cb73](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/09/07/donald-trump-said-he-had-a-secret-plan-to-defeat-isis-as-of-now-hes-not-planning-to-use-it/?utm_term=.f75a7109cb73) Instead, his website says: > [@](#): > > Pursue aggressive joint and coalition military operations to crush and destroy ISIS, international cooperation to cutoff their funding, expand intelligence sharing, and cyberwarfare to disrupt and disable their propaganda and recruiting. [https://www.donaldjtrump.com/policies/foreign-policy-and-defeating-isis](https://www.donaldjtrump.com/policies/foreign-policy-and-defeating-isis) Well? We’re waiting. And, the People didn’t elect him. He lost the popular vote. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/155 "2017-01-21T03:46:11Z")
I think he means the real Americans. The Soylent Majority. ---
**Author:** ![arfurvirus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@arfurvirus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/arfurvirus)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/156 "2017-01-21T03:51:06Z")
The Middle East I expect him to unleash the dogs of war on. ISIS/Al-Quadea\_IS\_ whatever they are named today should not be shipping Iraqi oil in convoys through Turkey with,… while they build hotels. I’m betting untying out Navy and Air Forces hands in cooperation with the Russians who don’t want cheap stolen oil on the market ( Neither do we, we EXPORT IT NOW) will crush the funding of alot of this. Once Europe wakes up and elects Le-Pen and the EU crumbles it gets smoother. The Saudi’s are another huge problem, what is to be done time will tell. I suspect plans are TSK There are threads for your concerns.NY and California do not a country make, we can devolve into the popular vote, the fraud, VA felons voting, and the illegals, not to mention my dead great-grandma voting three times in Chicago.) Constitutional Republic… yeah Rule of Law… I know… bitter pill ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/157 "2017-01-21T03:56:10Z")
Anyone have any numbers of how many illegals have been rounded up and deported so far? He did say he would start today but so far it’s been one party after another. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/158 "2017-01-21T03:59:06Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Anyone have any numbers of how many illegals have been rounded up and deported so far? He did say he would start today but so far it’s been one party after another. That’s a lot of parties for a fat old guy. I hope he doesn’t keel over or anything. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/159 "2017-01-21T04:00:23Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > That’s a lot of parties for a fat old guy. I hope he doesn’t keel over or anything. Ivanka will keep him…erect. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/160 "2017-01-21T04:00:43Z")
> [@E-DUB](#): > > “Jig” could be interpreted as a short form of an insulting term for African-Americans. The phrase “chink in the armor” has nothing to do with Asian Knights either but could be taken as insulting. > > Entomology be damned, person using such terms and phrases, in _full awareness_ of those alternate interpretation, are engaging the type of deniability-baked-in gutlessness that typifies so many on the right these days. > > Hope you weren’t offended, just calling a digging implement what it is. [Not in this case](http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/261702/what-is-the-origin-of-the-idiom-jig-is-up). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639.md?page=9)