# What an outstanding inaugural speech! **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 20, 2017, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639 "2017-01-20T17:20:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/161 "2017-01-21T04:01:16Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > Dude, you do know there are actual transgender and black female posters here to be insulted by this, right? Like he cares about that. Anyone who doesn’t see the beauty, intelligence and the strength of Michelle Obama is to be dismissed forthright. ---
**Author:** ![Leo\_Krupe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@Leo\_Krupe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Krupe)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/162 "2017-01-21T04:02:26Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Anyone have any numbers of how many illegals have been rounded up and deported so far? He did say he would start today but so far it’s been one party after another. Today doesn’t count. He’s taking the weekend off, remember? > **[What President Trump Actually Plans to Do on Day One](https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2017/01/what-president-trump-actually-plans-to-do-on-day-one.html)** > > He’s made impossible promises for his first day, but he’s expected to start by tackling health care, immigration, and terrorism. > [@](#): > > But the president-elect said this week that he considers Monday the first day of his presidency. But he also worked today. > [@](#): > > On his first day in office, President Donald Trump signed an executive order instructing federal agencies to minimize the burden of his predecessor’s signature accomplishment, the Affordable Care Act, pending congressional repeal. > **[Which executive orders did Trump sign on Day One?](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/which-executive-orders-did-trump-sign-on-day-1/)** > > In addition to signing the congressional waiver allowing Mattis to serve as defense secretary, Mr. Trump signed a few more on his first day as president Personally, I’m looking forward to all the jobs he’s going to create. I’m betting the honeymoon will be a short one. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/163 "2017-01-21T04:02:26Z")
I am reminded of the Robert Redford movie “The Candidate”, where after winning the election he calls his advisor, goes up to a room, and asks “What do we do now?”, getting no response. For whatever reason, Trump chose to use his crowning moment as an opportunity to give a candidate speech for an office he’s already won. He could have come up with all sorts of florid, grandiose nonsense like most of them have and made it memorable and aspirational, but it resembled nothing so much as another speech in Ames, Iowa or Tallahassee, Florida, or any other place he visited while running for office. He also chose to bag on every single career politician there, including the ones he is going to depend on to get his agenda enacted. He might have had a point, their victories aren’t ours, but saying so while they’re sitting right there surely isn’t the way to get them on board, especially since they didn’t want Trump to begin with. Being a “maverick” is great and all, but what good is it if you completely isolate yourself from the people you need? Then, to top it all off, he became the first president I can recall to outright call out a group of people and declare war on them. Going after “Radical Islamic Terrorism” is all well and good, but tell me that every Muslim in the US didn’t cringe all at once. He put them on notice that his administration is watching and that they better not step out of line, because the ONLY definite thing in that phrase is “Islamic”. That wasn’t the speech of a statesman. Of course, Trump isn’t a statesman. If we’re lucky, he may one day be. We have gone from the best public speaker I have ever seen to someone who seemingly took the two required speech classes in college and promptly forgot everything he learned. I assume he wrote that speech. If he did, he needs to hire better speechwriters and work on the delivery. If he didn’t, he needs to fire his current speechwriters, hire better speechwriters, and work on the delivery. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/164 "2017-01-21T04:08:17Z")
Trump hasn’t written anything in his life, including the academic papers for his degree at U. Penn, which were composed by some nerd he paid. His hired scriptwriters are shitty, just like his Cabinet is shitty. He is really not good at finding “the best people.” ---
**Author:** ![jshore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5e925/32.png) [@jshore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jshore)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/165 "2017-01-21T04:11:26Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > We’ve had no economic recovery-- it’s been smoke and mirrors. When two to three to four times as many people drop out of the labor force as find a job, that’s not a recovery. Here’s some analysis of private sector job growth (from June so Obama’s final numbers aren’t in yet): [Calculated Risk: Public and Private Sector Payroll Jobs: Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama](http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2016/06/public-and-private-sector-payroll-jobs.html) Looks like he will end up in 3rd place out of the last 6 Presidents (going back to Carter), being beaten only by Clinton and a little bit by Reagan. Interestingly, one of the headwinds has been that public sector job growth under Obama has been lagging compared to some of the other Presidents. [Related to this are the headwinds of a Republican Party whose sole principle has been to try to undermine Obama, rather than to help in the creation of jobs.] Also note that the total private sector jobs created during this recovery is a few million higher than the net number created over Obama’s entire tenure, since the economy was still severely hemorrhaging jobs when he took over [at the rate of almost 1 million jobs a month!] and it took a while to stop the bleeding. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/166 "2017-01-21T04:21:13Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Trump hasn’t written anything in his life, including the **academic papers for his degree at U. Penn, which were composed by some nerd he paid.** His hired scriptwriters are shitty, just like his Cabinet is shitty. He is really not good at finding “the best people.” That is complete and utter bullshit. He _paid?_ ---
**Author:** ![jshore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5e925/32.png) [@jshore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jshore)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/167 "2017-01-21T04:22:49Z")
> [@arfurvirus](#): > > We haven’t had a president cross the isles to be elected the way Trump has since Reagan. > Dems, Republicans, Independents, Whites, Blacks, Hispanics Blue collar Union people, Small Business owners, … The People Elected him. A strange way to interpret the situation of a President coming in with the 2nd biggest loss in the popular vote since the founding of the nation and with the lowest popularity of any incoming President in at least 4 decades ([https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/poll-trump-draws-low-marks-for-transition-response-to-russian-hacking/2017/01/17/0926302a-dc25-11e6-ad42-f3375f271c9c\_story.html](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/poll-trump-draws-low-marks-for-transition-response-to-russian-hacking/2017/01/17/0926302a-dc25-11e6-ad42-f3375f271c9c_story.html) and [Donald Trump Is the Least Popular President-Elect in Modern History | Vanity Fair](http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/01/donald-trump-polls-least-popular-president-elect)) ---
**Author:** ![jshore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5e925/32.png) [@jshore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jshore)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/168 "2017-01-21T04:24:06Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > That is complete and utter bullshit. > > He _paid?_ Yeah…It does seem unlikely. Probably, he got them to write the papers for him and then he stiffed them. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/169 "2017-01-21T04:26:38Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > You really are a bit of a kook, aren’t you? I am assuming this is in jest but please don’t appear to call other posters names. [/moderating] ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/170 "2017-01-21T04:43:05Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > I am assuming this is in jest but please don’t appear to call other posters names. Yeah, it was in jest, but…seriously? “Kook” is _verboten_? “Kook” would hurt someone’s fee-fees? And here I had edited it down from “fucking shit-for-brains.” ---
**Author:** ![arfurvirus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@arfurvirus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/arfurvirus)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/171 "2017-01-21T05:03:09Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > I am assuming this is in jest but please don’t appear to call other posters names. > > [/moderating] Thank you… > [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Yeah, it was in jest, but…seriously? “Kook” is _verboten_? “Kook” would hurt someone’s fee-fees? > > And here I had edited it down from “fucking shit-for-brains.” We’re ok. You just doesn’t express your displeasure or disagreement very well. Look guys, Trump is polling at 56% [http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public\_content/politics/trump\_administration/prez\_track\_jan20](http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_jan20) I don’t much care, I don’t think he does either. He did write his own speach last I read. Hey, It was real. It was what the people elected him based on and he followed through thus far. Ammunition to the leftists?..they fudge truth all of the time…they make up stories to push their agenda and their narrative…it does not matter what Trump does or doesn’t do…he needs to be Trump and do whatever it is he feels like doing anytime he feels like doing it and let them scream bloody murder 24/7 on their lying tv stations newspapers,radios,Hollywood,rap music…it does not matter what they think or so or react to real or otherwise. You will never please them…you will never “win them over”…you will never change them…you can only fight them as dirty as they fight you…which is exactly why we elected The Donald… ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/172 "2017-01-21T05:06:55Z")
> [@](#): > > …Look guys, Trump is polling at 56%… Are there other polls besides Rasmussen, and do they align with this one? Just askin’. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/173 "2017-01-21T05:18:04Z")
> [@arfurvirus](#): > > Thank you… > > We’re ok. You just doesn’t express your displeasure or disagreement very well. > > Look guys, Trump is polling at 56% [http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public\_content/politics/trump\_administration/prez\_track\_jan20](http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_jan20) > > I don’t much care, I don’t think he does either. He did write his own speach last I read. Hey, It was real. It was what the people elected him based on and he followed through thus far. > > Ammunition to the leftists?..they fudge truth all of the time…they make up stories to push their agenda and their narrative…it does not matter what Trump does or doesn’t > do…he needs to be Trump and do whatever it is he feels like doing anytime he feels like doing it and let them scream bloody murder 24/7 on their lying tv stations > newspapers,radios,Hollywood,rap music…it does not matter what they think or so or react to real or otherwise. > > You will never please them…you will never “win them over”…you will never change them…you can only fight them as dirty as they fight you…which is exactly > why we elected The Donald… Two nations, under God… ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/174 "2017-01-21T06:14:53Z")
> [@arfurvirus](#): > > We haven’t had a president cross the isles to be elected the way Trump has since Reagan. 😕 Wasn’t there some political wannabe recently railing about the bona fides of the last POTUS? Now you’re touting Trump is actually a Hebridean? ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/175 "2017-01-21T06:24:10Z")
> [@arfurvirus](#): > > God was openly invoked, appreciated, acknowledged, and invited too! And likely goosed to boot. Leave sleeping deities lie, charlatan _nos cuando dei punire volunt, preces respondent_ ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/176 "2017-01-21T11:54:50Z")
Just a note: I came across a meme on Twitter that purported to show that the part of Trump’s speech that started with “We are one nation - and their pain is our pain” was lifted from “The Bee Movie” from 2007, just with ‘nation’ replacing ‘colony’ and ‘home’ replacing ‘hive.’ So in case any of you come across this too, I couldn’t find the quote in that movie in the quotes sections of any of the popular movie sites. And it’s not in the only [transcript](http://www.script-o-rama.com/movie_scripts/a1/bee-movie-script-transcript-seinfeld.html) I could find for the Bee Movie. So I think it’s bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/177 "2017-01-21T12:24:10Z")
Yesterday, I said that my big takeaway from his speech was the misdirection ploy - “look over there!” at our wealth being drained out for the benefit of the rest of the world. Here’s the section of [his speech](https://www.whitehouse.gov/inaugural-address) about that: > [@](#): > > For many decades, we’ve enriched foreign industry at the expense of American industry; > > Subsidized the armies of other countries while allowing for the very sad depletion of our military; > > We’ve defended other nation’s borders while refusing to defend our own; > > And spent trillions of dollars overseas while America’s infrastructure has fallen into disrepair and decay. > > We’ve made other countries rich while the wealth, strength, and confidence of our country has disappeared over the horizon. > > One by one, the factories shuttered and left our shores, with not even a thought about the millions upon millions of American workers left behind. > > The wealth of our middle class has been ripped from their homes and then redistributed across the entire world. > > But that is the past. And now we are looking only to the future. > > We assembled here today are issuing a new decree to be heard in every city, in every foreign capital, and in every hall of power. > > From this day forward, a new vision will govern our land. > > From this moment on, it’s going to be America First. > > Every decision on trade, on taxes, on immigration, on foreign affairs, will be made to benefit American workers and American families. > > We must protect our borders from the ravages of other countries making our products, stealing our companies, and destroying our jobs. Protection will lead to great prosperity and strength. Pretty clear, I’d say. Like I said, this is bullshit. America’s wealth hasn’t been drained out to other countries. _America_ is richer than it’s ever been. Where the wealth is going is to the rich and the super-rich, the 0.1% and the 0.01%. But not a word about that. AFAIAC, this is an outright lie on his part. If he was just a guy arguing politics in a bar, I could chalk it up to ignorance. But the President of the United States has a moral duty to not choose a direction for this country out of ignorance. His willful ignorance is a deliberate choice that enables him to lie freely and convincingly by not being encumbered by a knowledge of the truth. Fuck him. ---
**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/178 "2017-01-21T12:46:58Z")
That’s quite a stretch there to get to “Trump’s lying!”. Obama spent the last eight years lying through his teeth. Did you show as much fire in calling him or on his obvious lies out? ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/179 "2017-01-21T13:02:46Z")
The thing is, Obama did say some things that were lies, and some more things that weee wrong. But he said a whole lot of things that conservatives just didn’t like that you all called lies. Trump’s main lies are generally matters of fact, not opinion. And they are extremely numerous. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639/180 "2017-01-21T13:38:20Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > The transcript is pretty crappy. I don’t know what speech Clothahump watched, but he’s a Trumpist, IIRC, so Trump could have just read a list of NBA players in alphabetical order and the Trumpists would eat it up. Equally, the bulk of the Doper Americans are die-hard anti-Trump. He could have made the greatest speech ever and they’d still excoriate and denigrate it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-an-outstanding-inaugural-speech/777639.md?page=10)