# What are history's absolute most influential texts?

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**Created:** [June 30, 2010, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-historys-absolute-most-influential-texts/545095 "2010-06-30T18:10:09Z")\
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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> Euclid’s _Elements_.  
> Why just the _Inferno_—why not the whole _Comedy_?

There’s more than the _Inferno_?

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_The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire_, by Burton

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Call me pathetic, but I totally thought this was going to be about text messages and I was going to link to Texts From Last Night.

The Bible, Torah and Koran had a long lead on anything else IMO.

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> [@Sefton](#):
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> _The Confessions_, by Jean-Jacques Rousseau

Also _The Social Contract._

N.B.: “Influential” != “any good” or “worth reading.” _Main Kampf_ was influential.

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> Why just the _Inferno_—why not the whole _Comedy_?

Because virtually nobody reads the _Purgatorio_ and the _Paridiso_.

I slogged my way through them both, but Oy! is it a tough read!

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> [@In\_Winnipeg](#):
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> _The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire_, by Burton

Did you mean [Edward Gibbon](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Gibbon)?

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> I’d add Kinsey’s _Sexual Behavior in the Human Male_/_Sexual Behavior in the Human Female_ in their somewhere.

_The Joy of Sex,_ although personally I felt the pictures were bad and the information was very boring.

I’m not sure how influential this book actually is, but it’s been in print like 5k years:  
_The Art of War_, Sun Tzu

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The Ninety-Five Theses by Martin Luther

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> [@ProfessorX](#):
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> Call me pathetic, but I totally thought this was going to be about text messages and I was going to link to Texts From Last Night.

The only reason I opened the thread was to see who would be the first to make the obvious joke. I’m (pleasantly) surprised no one has.

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> [@Aesiron](#):
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> The only reason I opened the thread was to see who would be the first to make the obvious joke. I’m (pleasantly) surprised no one has.

100 years from now, 21st century literature class textbooks will be comprised solely of LOLcats.

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> [@Tamerlane](#):
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> Did you mean [Edward Gibbon](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Gibbon)?

Exactly. Thanks.

It’s been a long day…

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Mein Kampf?

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Elements  
Principia Mathematica  
On computable numbers with an application to the _Entcheidungsproblem_

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The Rosetta Stone?

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Someday, soon, the most influential text in human history, and for the very brief remainder of same, will be [_The Book of the SubGenius._](http://www.amazon.com/Book-SubGenius-Sacred-Teachings-Dobbs/dp/0671638106)

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The Wealth of Nations  
Two Treatises of Government

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Bhagavad Gita  
Ramayana  
1984  
Oedipus Rex  
The Prince  
Aeneid  
Faust  
Walden and Civil Disobedience  
Common Sense  
The Jungle  
Don Quixote

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The _Torah_  
Hammurabi’s code  
The Christian Bible (and yes, I realize it’s 75% the \*Torah \*- the other 25% is incredibly influential too)  
The Koran  
The _Magna Carta_  
The Constitution of the United States  
Euclid’s Elements

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The Vedas  
Plutarch’s Parallel Lives  
Ovid’s Metamorphoses  
Einstein’s On the Electrodynamics of Moving Bodies  
Gulag Archipelago  
The Buddha’s First Discourse

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Most of the ones I’d have picked have already been mentioned.

“On the Electrodynamics of Moving Bodies”, Albert Einstein. (Not so much for the concept of special relativity itself, but for helping popularize the idea of relativism.) (Edit: And **GivenGrvty** teaches me not to take so long typing this out)  
[The Zimmermann Telegram](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimmermann_Telegram)  
[The July Ultimatum](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_Ultimatum) (Guess the Tuchman I’ve been reading is having an effect…)  
The Emancipation Proclamation  
The Indian Independence Act of 1947?  
[The Treaty of Tordesillas](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Tordesillas)  
“Extraterrestrial Cause for the Cretaceous-Tertiary Extinction”, Luis Alvarez _et al_. (Influential for getting people to realize the dangers of big rocks, and perhaps doing something about it…)

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