# What Are My Chances of getting this Ticket Dismissed? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [June 10, 2013, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-my-chances-of-getting-this-ticket-dismissed/660649 "2013-06-10T19:48:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2013, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-my-chances-of-getting-this-ticket-dismissed/660649/61 "2013-07-02T14:21:26Z")
Thanks. I’m also aware of how unreliable one’s recollection/perception might be. I’m very certain that I have tried to present the situation exactly as it happened. It would be curious if video were to show I were mistaken. ---
**Author:** ![lawbuff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/13edae/32.png) [@lawbuff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lawbuff)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2013, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-my-chances-of-getting-this-ticket-dismissed/660649/62 "2013-07-02T18:27:11Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > “Beyond reasonable doubt” is the standard for a criminal conviction, isn’t it? Yours wasn’t a criminal case, was it? I assume yours was a civil infraction, which is held to a “preponderance of evidence” standard, as far as I know, but I am not a lawyer. A state can make the burden of proof any degree it wants. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2013, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-my-chances-of-getting-this-ticket-dismissed/660649/63 "2013-07-02T18:30:09Z")
> [@lawbuff](#): > > A state can make the burden of proof any degree it wants. Yeah, I looked more into it last night and figured that out. Most states/municipalities do use “beyond reasonable doubt” for moving violations, although some do use “preponderance of evidence.” I’m actually a little surprised that the bar is that high for traffic infractions. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2013, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-my-chances-of-getting-this-ticket-dismissed/660649/64 "2013-07-02T18:32:39Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > Thanks. > > I’m also aware of how unreliable one’s recollection/perception might be. I’m very certain that I have tried to present the situation exactly as it happened. It would be curious if video were to show I were mistaken. The way ours work you’ll be able to see the video from your own computer. But only if you are cited. If not, it’s not saved. ---
**Author:** ![lawbuff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/13edae/32.png) [@lawbuff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lawbuff)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2013, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-my-chances-of-getting-this-ticket-dismissed/660649/65 "2013-07-02T18:38:53Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > Yeah, I looked more into it last night and figured that out. Most states/municipalities do use “beyond reasonable doubt” for moving violations, although some do use “preponderance of evidence.” I’m actually a little surprised that the bar is that high for traffic infractions. In Ohio almost all offenses are BRD, but as discussed on page 1, the infraction/red camera lights are reduced to a preponderance, and we also have a statutory exception for municipalities also besides that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-my-chances-of-getting-this-ticket-dismissed/660649.md?page=3)