# What are some famous arch-rivals? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 28, 2008, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-some-famous-arch-rivals/443031 "2008-03-28T09:32:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2008, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-some-famous-arch-rivals/443031/21 "2008-03-28T20:42:11Z")
In the spy-genre there is ablsolutely nothing to compare to George Smiley and ‘Karla’ (the russian spy-master) from the Le Carre novels. ---
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> [@](#): > > I think I know what you’re getting at: the rivals are both going after the same goal, but each is trying to get there first. It’s more like Holmes vs. Lestrade (though that’s not a perfect example) than like Holmes vs. Moriarty. Unfortunately, I’m not coming up with any really good examples right now. Peary and Cook? Amundsen and Scott? Newton and Leibniz? Cope and Marsh? ---
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M and General Gogol, in the James Bond movies. (After Bond destroys the gadget they both have been hunting for) “That’s detente, comrade. You don’t have it, I don’t have it.” (And Gogol just smiles, shrugs, and leaves.) ---
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[QUOTE=Ronald C. Semone] The two gunfighting brothers in the movie **Cat Ballou** [/QUOTE] Spoilerized for anyone who hasn’t seen the movie: Kid Shelleen and Tim Strawn (both played by Lee Marvin) Two from related sitcoms: _Cheers_ and _Gary’s Olde Towne Tavern_ were archrival bars/owners Frasier Crane and his upstairs neighbor Cam Winston (Brian Stokes Mitchell) were archrival snobs and condo board members on _Frasier_ (in the episodes when Frasier’s archrival wasn’t his brother Niles) ---
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Nayland Smith and Dr. Fu-Manchu Although Dr. Petrie manages by favorable circumstance to convince Dr. Fu-Manchu he is brilliant chemist and desirable acquisition. ---
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I tried to do this a while ago in the form of a quiz. There’s a radio show I like that takes questions from listeners. I was going to call it “Name that Nemesis”; given the name of a character or person, name his more famous rival. Even started a thread, but I don’t think we ever got enough good ones to make a full category. My two favorites: Charles DreyfusJacques ClouseauRalph WolfSam Sheepdog ---
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Auburn and Alabama. ---
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Godai and Mitaka from Maison Ikkoku. Gau Ban and Scrib Lowengren from Shadow Skill. Ayeka and Ryoko from Tenchi Muyo. …thinking about it, I’m somewhat suspecting that the list is long in anime land… ---
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Ron Burgundy and Wes Mantooth. ---
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Koga and Inu Yasha Macy’s and Gimbals ---
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Spike Speigel and Andy 🙂 ---
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Famous arch rivals? Burger King box girder Reggie ---
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[QUOTE=Lightray] Mandark. [/QUOTE] Ha-ha-ha! Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha![/mandark] Man, I loved that goofy toon when my son used to watch it. ---
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Earl White Haven and Admiral Sonja Hemphill from the Honor Harrington novels. Proponents of competing military philosophies and rivals, they were both fundamentally after the same goal, victory in their war against Haven. ---
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Godzilla and King Kong Alien and Predator Sylvester and Tweetie David and Goliath 😛 ---
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Professor Charles Xavier and Magneto. ---
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West and Loveless Smart and Siegfried ---
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Seinfeld and Newman ---
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Newton & Leibniz ---
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A terrific example, which I had in mind when I wrote the thread, is \*\*Scrooge \*\*and **Flintheart Glomgold** in the old Barks’ comics. Seinfeld and Newman is a pretty good recent example, too. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-some-famous-arch-rivals/443031.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-some-famous-arch-rivals/443031.md?page=3)