# What are the fake rocks all about?

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [June 21, 2022, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-fake-rocks-all-about/966554 "2022-06-21T13:22:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
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I usually make it in an oval casserole dish. ETA: I think my grandfather made it in a rectangular pan.

I’ve never seen it puff up. I wonder whether it was a different recipe?

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
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I think the original dish and the modern version are barely related. The [history section of the wiki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kugel#History) discusses the evolution. I think _kugel_ became synonymous with some form of _cake_ in Yiddish.

I have an oval pan I might have made it in.

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2022, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-fake-rocks-all-about/966554/63 "2022-06-22T19:22:00Z")

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> [@MrAtoz](#):
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> while noting that they are also called “kugel balls.

It calls this usage “pleonasmic”… in other words, a phrase which incorporates a structural or semantic redundancy. So that essentially gives a partial explanation for the provenance of that word.

The wiki article about pleopnasms includes a section about other translation pleonasms.

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**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-fake-rocks-all-about/966554/64 "2022-06-23T02:42:47Z")

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Now, how do I sculpt a non-fake, perfectly spherical, smooth 4000 lb ball of granite?

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-fake-rocks-all-about/966554/65 "2022-06-23T03:06:56Z")

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Start with a pick axe.

But, first things first:

Find a nice square block of granite. Pay for it, Mr. Moneybags.🤭  
Then pay the exorbitant price to have it delivered.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-fake-rocks-all-about/966554/66 "2022-06-23T03:34:18Z")

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Thankfully, we are not talking about giant, stone, Kegel balls.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-fake-rocks-all-about/966554/67 "2022-06-23T04:33:20Z")

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> [@DPRK](#):
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> Now, how do I sculpt a non-fake, perfectly spherical, smooth 4000 lb ball of granite?

Probably like this, but bigger.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/FVbACw0jhmU/hqdefault.jpg "Sphere Nov 2010\_0001.avi") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVbACw0jhmU)

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-fake-rocks-all-about/966554/68 "2022-06-23T06:15:35Z")

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> [@DPRK](#):
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> Now, how do I sculpt a non-fake, perfectly spherical, smooth 4000 lb ball of granite? -

Get a 5000-7000 lb chunk of granite. Take off anything not round.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-fake-rocks-all-about/966554/69 "2022-06-23T06:57:15Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Get a 5000-7000 lb chunk of granite. Take off anything not round.

I tried that. I ended up with a statue of an elephant.

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 8:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-fake-rocks-all-about/966554/70 "2022-06-23T08:44:53Z")

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You should have tried to make a cow instead.

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 8:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-fake-rocks-all-about/966554/71 "2022-06-23T08:49:43Z")

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He’s a ~~doctor~~ sculptor not a ~~brick layer~~ theoretical physicist!

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-fake-rocks-all-about/966554/72 "2022-06-24T15:57:04Z")

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Hey, I papier mache-ed a Bigfoot butt.  
I could probably papier mache a huge round object. Given loads of glue and a giant balloon.  
I know could make a rock. Won’t hold up in the weather, I’m afraid.

We do have a giant boulder on this property. It’s a rare thing out here.  
We call it the Bible\* rock. Lots of folks have signed it and left messages.

\*don’t ask

I’m fascinated by this subject. I’ll keep doing my research.

And you teeming millions  
do alittle field experimenting.

I’m not directly responsible if you get chased off or arrested

I’ll wait for your updates😳

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**Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-fake-rocks-all-about/966554/73 "2022-06-24T18:22:04Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> \*don’t ask

Now you know we have to!

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**Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-fake-rocks-all-about/966554/74 "2022-06-24T18:25:18Z")

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I realize this thread has metamorphized since its igneous beginnings, but once upon a time in Tucson along the Aviation Bikeway, I was in fact surprised to find such a fake rock.  
Part of the outside had broken away, revealing the chicken-wire and hollow interior.

It was the more amusing to me since this was part of a “natural” scenic trail, not something intended to conceal equipment or decorate a business property.  
A picture was taken, alas twenty years and it seems lost to me. Tried to scroll through Google Streetview searching for it, but no bueno. So you’ll just have to take my hearsay for it.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-fake-rocks-all-about/966554/75 "2022-06-24T19:50:03Z")

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People write their names and birthdates. Like in a family Bible.  
Or… Son-of-a-wrek named it that while it fourth grade. He was a bit of  
A Jesus-freak in those earlier conspiracy theory days of his life.  
He was appalled we didn’t own a family Bible.  
The DaVinci code was apparently to mature of a book to let him read.

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**Post date:** [June 25, 2022, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-fake-rocks-all-about/966554/76 "2022-06-25T14:30:11Z")

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I was coming home. The Li’l speed demon(wrekker) stopped at an intersection. There’s was a grass island deviding the turn lane from the other lanes.  
Big rock planted right there. Only a few feet from me.  
I started unbuckling the seat belt.  
The silly girl grabbed the back of my waist band. She said: “oh no you don’t!” And sped off.

Who’s the Mother? Who’s the child? The dynamic is changing between us.  
Funny. I kinda like it.  
Then she borrowed $100 bucks off me cause she forgot to go to the ATM.  
Aarggh!

(BTW, I’m sure the big rock was fake. I looked back before we got too far away. I saw a stake or wire conduit showing. Who are they trying to fool? Son-of-a-wrek is sure it had nefarious electronics spying on us, in there.)

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**Post date:** [June 25, 2022, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-fake-rocks-all-about/966554/77 "2022-06-25T15:15:09Z")

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> [@Pardel-Lux](#):
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> You should have tried to make a cow instead.

[Captain America} I understood that reference.

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**Post date:** [June 25, 2022, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-fake-rocks-all-about/966554/78 "2022-06-25T19:32:29Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Hot Springs has a whole section of the uptown area, that is a natural giant rock wall.  
> Pieces fall down. And alarmed folks  
> They been assured the City is on it.

Is this the wall-o-rock:

[https://www.tripadvisor.co.nz/LocationPhotoDirectLink-g60856-i25635185-Hot\_Springs\_Arkansas.html](https://www.tripadvisor.co.nz/LocationPhotoDirectLink-g60856-i25635185-Hot_Springs_Arkansas.html)

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**Post date:** [June 25, 2022, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-fake-rocks-all-about/966554/79 "2022-06-25T20:49:18Z")

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Yes, I think so

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