# What are the likely outcomes/scenarios in the Ukraine war that the US is working towards? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** ukraine-invasion\ **Created:** [October 6, 2022, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-likely-outcomes-scenarios-in-the-ukraine-war-that-the-us-is-working-towards/972818 "2022-10-06T11:26:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![am77494](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d2c977/32.png) [@am77494](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/am77494)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-likely-outcomes-scenarios-in-the-ukraine-war-that-the-us-is-working-towards/972818/1 "2022-10-06T11:26:13Z")
There’s a lot of discussion on what Putin may or may not do next in the Ukraine war. Recent wars have shown that the US is not very good at planning out exit strategies. Is that the case again ? If Putin continues in his current position, it will be worrisome for the US. If Putin goes, it may even be more worrisome for the US with Russia unraveling. While the other threads are talking tactics, I’d like this thread for strategizing what the end game would like in this war. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-likely-outcomes-scenarios-in-the-ukraine-war-that-the-us-is-working-towards/972818/2 "2022-10-06T11:30:36Z")
You seem to be confused, OP. The US is not at war in Ukraine. ---
**Author:** ![am77494](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d2c977/32.png) [@am77494](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/am77494)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-likely-outcomes-scenarios-in-the-ukraine-war-that-the-us-is-working-towards/972818/3 "2022-10-06T11:41:59Z")
Fair enough, but isn’t that a part of the problem ? That the US thinks too late about the exit strategy. Anyways, if it makes more sense, lets talk about the _ **best outcome** _ in terms of US perspective of the Ukraine War. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-likely-outcomes-scenarios-in-the-ukraine-war-that-the-us-is-working-towards/972818/4 "2022-10-06T11:48:55Z")
The question still doesn’t make any sense. The US is supplying resources to Ukraine – weapons and military intelligence. The US is not managing any warfare “strategy” or goals. That’s up to Ukraine. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-likely-outcomes-scenarios-in-the-ukraine-war-that-the-us-is-working-towards/972818/5 "2022-10-06T11:50:02Z")
> [@am77494](#): > > Fair enough, but isn’t that a part of the problem ? That the US thinks too late about the exit strategy. We would need to execute an entrance strategy first. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-likely-outcomes-scenarios-in-the-ukraine-war-that-the-us-is-working-towards/972818/6 "2022-10-06T11:56:05Z")
Exit strategy: 1. Putin leaves office via death or health issues Give new leadership a fairly easy way out of the war. Help rebuild the Ukraine into a solid NATO member. Help new Russia rejoin the world. Try hard to get them into the West. 1. Russia breaks down into civil war over failure of Ukraine adventure Look to help stabilized the country but we’ve never really got this right anyway. 1. Putin uses Nukes Oh shit, oh shit. Maybe the Apes or Raccoons will do a better job than we did. ---
**Author:** ![am77494](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d2c977/32.png) [@am77494](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/am77494)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-likely-outcomes-scenarios-in-the-ukraine-war-that-the-us-is-working-towards/972818/7 "2022-10-06T12:14:14Z")
Thanks @What_Exit - that’s the sort of scenario planning I am looking for. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-likely-outcomes-scenarios-in-the-ukraine-war-that-the-us-is-working-towards/972818/8 "2022-10-06T12:30:20Z")
> [@am77494](#): > > that’s the sort of scenario planning I am looking for. But that’s not really an exit strategy, it’s dealing with real world politics. Exit Strategy implies needing to get troops out of a campaign, which doesn’t apply here. Do we have an exit strategy for the Yemeni civil war? Do we need one? ---
**Author:** ![am77494](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d2c977/32.png) [@am77494](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/am77494)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-likely-outcomes-scenarios-in-the-ukraine-war-that-the-us-is-working-towards/972818/9 "2022-10-06T12:35:51Z")
Would end-game make more sense ? I am looking for the desired outcome(s) by the US, so that we can work backwards from them. Putin has his game figured out, will the US continue to be reactive to Putin’s moves or does the US have its own moves ? ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-likely-outcomes-scenarios-in-the-ukraine-war-that-the-us-is-working-towards/972818/10 "2022-10-06T12:39:01Z")
Let me know if you want to change the title and what you want it to be instead. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-likely-outcomes-scenarios-in-the-ukraine-war-that-the-us-is-working-towards/972818/11 "2022-10-06T12:40:47Z")
The exit strategy is to totally support Ukraine with sophisticated weaponry until the Russians withdraw. After that, we’ll help them in all ways possible to rebuild and to alleviate human suffering. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-likely-outcomes-scenarios-in-the-ukraine-war-that-the-us-is-working-towards/972818/12 "2022-10-06T12:42:09Z")
> [@am77494](#): > > Putin has his game figured out He does? He sure hasn’t been acting like it. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-likely-outcomes-scenarios-in-the-ukraine-war-that-the-us-is-working-towards/972818/13 "2022-10-06T12:45:39Z")
> [@am77494](#): > > Putin has his game figured out, will the US continue to be reactive to Putin’s moves or does the US have its own moves ? Actually, Putin is getting his ass kicked, he has panicked and instituted a draft, he is losing public support, and he is getting desperate enough to consider tactical nukes. If that is, “having his game figured out”, then I agree. ---
**Author:** ![am77494](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d2c977/32.png) [@am77494](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/am77494)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-likely-outcomes-scenarios-in-the-ukraine-war-that-the-us-is-working-towards/972818/14 "2022-10-06T12:46:52Z")
@What_Exit - maybe change it to "What are the likely outcomes/scenarios in the Ukraine war that the US is working towards ? " ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-likely-outcomes-scenarios-in-the-ukraine-war-that-the-us-is-working-towards/972818/15 "2022-10-06T12:48:16Z")
Done. ---
**Author:** ![am77494](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d2c977/32.png) [@am77494](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/am77494)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-likely-outcomes-scenarios-in-the-ukraine-war-that-the-us-is-working-towards/972818/16 "2022-10-06T12:48:30Z")
> [@Jasmine](#): > > Actually, Putin is getting his ass kicked, he has panicked and instituted a draft, he is losing public support, and he is getting desperate enough to consider tactical nukes. Or maybe he just wants the US/West to think that. Deception is part of the war strategy ! ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-likely-outcomes-scenarios-in-the-ukraine-war-that-the-us-is-working-towards/972818/17 "2022-10-06T12:49:13Z")
Hopefully that is all it is with the tactical nukes. The rest is actually pretty clear and not a put on. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-likely-outcomes-scenarios-in-the-ukraine-war-that-the-us-is-working-towards/972818/18 "2022-10-06T12:51:01Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Hopefully that is all it is with the tactical nukes. Yes, that definitely could be sabre rattling on his part; however, it may very well have the opposite effect that he expects and desires. Instead of intimidating the nations that support Ukraine, he may be rallying even more nations to their support. ---
**Author:** ![am77494](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d2c977/32.png) [@am77494](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/am77494)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-likely-outcomes-scenarios-in-the-ukraine-war-that-the-us-is-working-towards/972818/19 "2022-10-06T12:51:54Z")
@What_Exit → thanks for the title change. ---
**Author:** ![am77494](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d2c977/32.png) [@am77494](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/am77494)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-likely-outcomes-scenarios-in-the-ukraine-war-that-the-us-is-working-towards/972818/20 "2022-10-06T12:54:12Z")
> [@Jasmine](#): > > Instead of intimidating the nations that support Ukraine, he may be rallying even more nations to their support. Knowing Putin and his meteoric rise and strategic grab of power, I am not sure I can buy that Putin is naïve. He knows exactly what he is doing and has planned his moves much ahead. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-likely-outcomes-scenarios-in-the-ukraine-war-that-the-us-is-working-towards/972818.md?page=2)