# What Are the Most Divisive Movies?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-most-divisive-movies/319289>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 30, 2005, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-most-divisive-movies/319289 "2005-08-30T17:47:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2005, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-most-divisive-movies/319289/21 "2005-08-30T19:50:33Z")

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> [@twickster](#):
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> Dare I mention **Starship Troopers**? 😃

Somebody likes that? I’ve never heard of anyone but Verhoeven himself defend it.

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**Author:** ![mailman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8491ac/32.png) [@mailman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mailman)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2005, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-most-divisive-movies/319289/22 "2005-08-30T19:58:50Z")

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**The Piano** was a really upsetting movie to me. I have never seen another movie where the character was so repellant to me that I had to get up and leave the room. Harvey Keitel is a great actor, The Piano is probably a great movie, but it really, really disturbed me like no other movie I can name.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2005, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-most-divisive-movies/319289/23 "2005-08-30T20:00:42Z")

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**Kill Bill I** , **Revenge of the Sith** , and **Sin City**. Just look at my thread. I’ve never seen so many people divided in my life:

> **[Lopped-Off Limbs in Popular Cinema](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=332512)**
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> Over ther past few months I’ve seen Sin City, Revenge of the Sith , and both of the Kill Bill films. Never in my life have I seen such a collection of chopped-off extremities. And it’s all in big-budget mainstream cinema, too. Not in the usual...

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**Author:** ![Rufus\_Xavier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eada6e/32.png) [@Rufus\_Xavier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rufus_Xavier)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2005, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-most-divisive-movies/319289/24 "2005-08-30T20:01:12Z")

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> [@Steve MB](#):
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> Somebody likes that? I’ve never heard of anyone but Verhoeven himself defend it.

“Starship Troopers the Film is a viciously effective, multilayered satire”

- banned Doper **lissener**

“I think his most successful text/subtext juxtaposition is with Starship Troopers”

- banned Doper **lissener**

“Starship Troopers is up pretty near my lifetime top ten”

- banned Doper **lissener**

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2005, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-most-divisive-movies/319289/25 "2005-08-30T20:06:04Z")

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Don’t forget that the final straw in his banning was on that specific movie.

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**Author:** ![Berserker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ba8739/32.png) [@Berserker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Berserker)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2005, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-most-divisive-movies/319289/26 "2005-08-30T20:09:55Z")

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Any of Todd Solondz’s films, as well as American Psycho.

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**Author:** ![awldune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c77e96/32.png) [@awldune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/awldune)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2005, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-most-divisive-movies/319289/27 "2005-08-30T20:11:08Z")

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> [@Steve MB](#):
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> Somebody likes that? I’ve never heard of anyone but Verhoeven himself defend it.

I can’t see it as a good film, but I find it highly enjoyable as schlock.

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**Author:** ![Sir\_Rhosis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@Sir\_Rhosis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_Rhosis)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2005, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-most-divisive-movies/319289/28 "2005-08-30T21:01:45Z")

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You know how people who have read the book always complain that the film of that book is so much less… well, to the OP: I read the screenplay of **Magnolia** , and LOVED it. When I saw actors in the roles, I disliked all of them except Philip Seymour Hoffman.

But, I put the film in my “so-so” category.

Sir Rhosis

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2005, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-most-divisive-movies/319289/29 "2005-08-30T21:58:33Z")

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**The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension** splits people into “absolutely love it” and “the stupidest movie I’ve ever seen” camps. I’ve never met a “it was OK” person.

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**Author:** ![Cunctator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/43a26b/32.png) [@Cunctator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cunctator)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2005, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-most-divisive-movies/319289/30 "2005-08-30T22:07:45Z")

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**Citizen Kane**. There are those who think it’s the “best ever” film and those who think it’s pretentious garbage.

The \*\*Matrix \*\* films. I have friends who love these. I thought the first was such a waste of time that I refused to accompany them to the second and third.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2005, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-most-divisive-movies/319289/31 "2005-08-30T22:11:15Z")

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Great googly moogly! We have 30 posts before anyone mentions [Santa Sangre](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098253/)? I love this movie, but many people actually become [violently](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=3063634&postcount=96) [angry](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=3063634&postcount=96) after watching it. In fact, that seems to happen with a lot of Jodorowsky movies… hmm…

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2005, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-most-divisive-movies/319289/32 "2005-08-30T22:12:59Z")

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oops! one of those links should have been to [this post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=3066347&postcount=115).

In fact, after reading his posts in that thread, I’m pretty sure that **hamlet** just flat out did not care for the film 😃

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2005, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-most-divisive-movies/319289/33 "2005-08-30T22:40:29Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Fahrenheit 9/11, although that’s not strictly for cinematic reasons.

I think the same could be said for **The Passion of the Christ**

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**Author:** ![Rucksinator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/898d66/32.png) [@Rucksinator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rucksinator)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2005, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-most-divisive-movies/319289/34 "2005-08-30T22:49:00Z")

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I love **Starship Troopers**

**Titanic** made a buttload of money, but every other thread on this messageboard has a post where somebody claims that it’s the worst movie of all time. (It hasn’t happened in this thread yet, but just wait… 5… 4… 3…)

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2005, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-most-divisive-movies/319289/35 "2005-08-30T22:50:27Z")

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Divisive? Just about anything by Spike Lee.

Someone once threatened to hit me because of my (negative) views on the artistic importance of Spike Lee. I can’t recall that any other opinion I’ve ever expressed on an entertainment-related subject has ever drawn a threat of physical violence.

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2005, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-most-divisive-movies/319289/36 "2005-08-30T23:19:38Z")

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I haven’t seen “Fight Club”, but my understanding is that men and women often have different takes on it.

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**Author:** ![SmackFu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/53a042/32.png) [@SmackFu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmackFu)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2005, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-most-divisive-movies/319289/37 "2005-08-30T23:34:18Z")

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“Clerks”, though mainly because it tends to lead to a discussion of whether Kevin Smith is a hack or not.

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**Author:** ![Idlewild](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8491ac/32.png) [@Idlewild](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idlewild)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2005, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-most-divisive-movies/319289/38 "2005-08-30T23:35:14Z")

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I’m a woman and I loved the violence in Fight Club but thought the overall philosophical message a lot of guys seemed to be getting from it was overrated and frankly funny. Would watch again. Neither love it nor hate it though.

The Piano has come up surprisingly often in my hearing - either art film brilliance or “ewwww, Harvey Keitel naked.”

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**Author:** ![Orual](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orual](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orual)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2005, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-most-divisive-movies/319289/39 "2005-08-31T02:32:53Z")

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> [@BlackKnight](#):
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> Opinions of “Fight Club” seem to be split very cleanly down gender lines.

Huh. I saw it once, thought it was OK. Wouldn’t watch it again. My friend thinks it’s High Art. We’re both women.

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**Post date:** [August 31, 2005, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-most-divisive-movies/319289/40 "2005-08-31T02:41:07Z")

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I thought this thread was going to be about stuff like  
Birth of A Nation  
A Clockwork Orange  
Lolita (both versions as well as the book)  
The Last Temptation of Christ  
Blue Velvet  
Happiness  
Hail Mary  
which are more controversial morally, religiously & politically.

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