# What are the Must See OOC College Football Games of 2011? **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 12, 2011, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-must-see-ooc-college-football-games-of-2011/588735 "2011-07-12T13:12:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-must-see-ooc-college-football-games-of-2011/588735/41 "2011-07-14T15:57:33Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > If I took the time to analyze all the conferences, PAC12 conference would probably have the highest avg per team. (but they have only 3 OOC games, if 2011 is like recent years). IMO, Big 12 would probably have the lowest average. Big 10 would probably be rated very close to the SEC, depending a little on whether Notre Dame is level 3 or level 4 opponent. Recent history would say that ND should be a category 3. ACC might rank the highest as they typically schedule more OOC BCS teams per school than any other conference. Okay, **notfrommensa** , do your magic on: ============================= Big Ten OOC Games 2011 Leaders Illinois Sat, Sep 3 Arkansas State Sat, Sep 10 South Dakota State Sat, Sep 17 Arizona State Sat, Sep 24 Western Michigan Indiana Sat, Sep 3 at Ball State Sat, Sep 10 Virginia Sat, Sep 17 South Carolina State Sat, Sep 24 at North Texas Ohio St. Sat, Sep 3 Akron Sat, Sep 10 Toledo Sat, Sep 17 at Miami (FL) Sat, Sep 24 Colorado Penn St. Sat, Sep 3 Indiana State Sat, Sep 10 Alabama Sat, Sep 17 at Temple Sat, Sep 24 Eastern Michigan Purdue Sat, Sep 3 Middle Tennessee Sat, Sep 10 at Rice 4:30 pm Sat, Sep 17 Southeast Missouri State Sat, Oct 1 Notre Dame Wisconsin Thu, Sep 1 UNLV Sat, Sep 10 Oregon State Sat, Sep 17 at Northern Illinois Sat, Sep 24 South Dakota Legends Iowa Sat, Sep 3 Tennessee Tech Sat, Sep 10 at Iowa State Sat, Sep 17 Pittsburgh Sat, Sep 24 Louisiana-Monroe Michigan Sat, Sep 3 Western Michigan Sat, Sep 10 Notre Dame Sat, Sep 17 Eastern Michigan Sat, Sep 24 San Diego State Michigan St. Fri, Sep 2 Youngstown State 7:30 pm Sat, Sep 10 Florida Atlantic Sat, Sep 17 at Notre Dame Sat, Sep 24 Central Michigan Minnesota Sat, Sep 3 at USC Sat, Sep 10 New Mexico State Sat, Sep 17 Miami (OH) Sat, Sep 24 North Dakota State Nebraska Sat, Sep 3 Chattanooga Sat, Sep 10 Fresno State Sat, Sep 17 Washington Sat, Sep 24 at Wyoming 7:30 pm Northwestern Sat, Sep 3 at Boston College Sat, Sep 10 Eastern Illinois Sat, Sep 17 at Army Sat, Nov 12 Rice ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-must-see-ooc-college-football-games-of-2011/588735/42 "2011-07-14T16:51:15Z")
Depending how a person rates Notre Dame (a “3” or a “4”), these are the values I would give Illinois 8 Sat, Sep 3 Arkansas State 2 Sat, Sep 10 South Dakota State 1 Sat, Sep 17 Arizona State 3 Sat, Sep 24 Western Michigan 2 Indiana 8 Sat, Sep 3 at Ball State 2 Sat, Sep 10 Virginia 3 Sat, Sep 17 South Carolina State 1 Sat, Sep 24 at North Texas 2 Ohio St. 12 Sat, Sep 3 Akron 2 Sat, Sep 10 Toledo 2 Sat, Sep 17 at Miami (FL) 5 Sat, Sep 24 Colorado 3 Penn St. 10 Sat, Sep 3 Indiana State 1 Sat, Sep 10 Alabama 5 Sat, Sep 17 at Temple 2 Sat, Sep 24 Eastern Michigan 2 Purdue 8 (9) Sat, Sep 3 Middle Tennessee 2 Sat, Sep 10 at Rice 2 Sat, Sep 17 Southeast Missouri State 1 Sat, Oct 1 Notre Dame 3 (4) Wisconsin 8 Thu, Sep 1 UNLV 2 Sat, Sep 10 Oregon State 3 Sat, Sep 17 at Northern Illinois 2 Sat, Sep 24 South Dakota 1 Legends Iowa 10 Sat, Sep 3 Tennessee Tech 1 Sat, Sep 10 at Iowa State 3 Sat, Sep 17 Pittsburgh 4 Sat, Sep 24 Louisiana-Monroe 2 Michigan 9 (10) Sat, Sep 3 Western Michigan 2 Sat, Sep 10 Notre Dame 3 (4) Sat, Sep 17 Eastern Michigan 2 Sat, Sep 24 San Diego State 2 Michigan St. 8 (9) Fri, Sep 2 Youngstown State 1 Sat, Sep 10 Florida Atlantic 2 Sat, Sep 17 at Notre Dame 3 (4) Sat, Sep 24 Central Michigan 2 Minnesota 10 Sat, Sep 3 at USC 5 Sat, Sep 10 New Mexico State 2 Sat, Sep 17 Miami (OH) 2 Sat, Sep 24 North Dakota State 1 Nebraska 8 Sat, Sep 3 Chattanooga 1 Sat, Sep 10 Fresno State 2 Sat, Sep 17 Washington 3 Sat, Sep 24 at Wyoming 2 Northwestern 8 Sat, Sep 3 at Boston College 3 Sat, Sep 10 Eastern Illinois 1 Sat, Sep 17 at Army 2 Sat, Nov 12 Rice 2 ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-must-see-ooc-college-football-games-of-2011/588735/43 "2011-07-14T17:35:58Z")
BCS Schools should average 2.5 or greater in this scale. Anything less 10 total points from an SEC, Big 10, Big 12, or ACC is a terrible OOC schedule. When Auburn got snubbed in the Nat’l championship game about 8 years ago, it was deserving. They played La Monroe, La Tech and The Citadel. An average of 1.67. Schools that merit a “5” in the NFM scale are: USC, Oregon, Boise, Texas, Oklahoma, LSU, Bama, Florida, Auburn, Virginia Tech, Ohio St, Penn St as these schools have consistently gone to the 5 major bowls the last 5-8 years or won a Nat’l Championship. West Virginia is close, but IMO, they haven’t been consistent enough despite being in the weak Big East conference. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-must-see-ooc-college-football-games-of-2011/588735/44 "2011-07-14T18:04:51Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > BCS Schools should average 2.5 or greater in this scale. Anything less 10 total points from an SEC, Big 10, Big 12, or ACC is a terrible OOC schedule. When Auburn got snubbed in the Nat’l championship game about 8 years ago, it was deserving. They played La Monroe, La Tech and The Citadel. An average of 1.67. > > Schools that merit a “5” in the NFM scale are: USC, Oregon, Boise, Texas, Oklahoma, LSU, Bama, Florida, Auburn, Virginia Tech, Ohio St, Penn St as these schools have consistently gone to the 5 major bowls the last 5-8 years or won a Nat’l Championship. > > West Virginia is close, but IMO, they haven’t been consistent enough despite being in the weak Big East conference. Interesting speculations there, **notfrommensa** , and I’m wondering your thoughts on how your NFM Scale might be applied to the entire season’s OOC games. If we had a list of ALL OOC games, what number do you think would move a game to “must see” status, assuming no other factors would elevate that particular game to such a place of significance? (Factors like perennial rival, cross-state foe, “team on the rise” and other such incidentals aside.) Would you want to do another conference if I gather the OOC games for it? ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-must-see-ooc-college-football-games-of-2011/588735/45 "2011-07-14T18:32:38Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > Not too impressive: I took the time to develop a NFM ranking of OOC strength. > > 4 = against a perennial top ~10 football team > 3 = against any BCS school or one that plays like a BCS school. (eg BYU) > 2 = Non BCS Div I-A school > 1 = Div I-AA School What about BCS schools that _don’t_ play like a BCS school? Such as Washington State? ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-must-see-ooc-college-football-games-of-2011/588735/46 "2011-07-14T19:27:02Z")
> [@Knorf](#): > > What about BCS schools that _don’t_ play like a BCS school? Such as Washington State? That why I amended it to a 5 point scale. I can see the point where BCS schools (like WSU, Duke, Iowa St, Indiana, Vandy) should be demoted to a level 2, but IMO, these schools are getting BCS money (indirectly) and should be treated as equals to the other also-rans. ---
**Author:** ![HubZilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ccd318/32.png) [@HubZilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HubZilla)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-must-see-ooc-college-football-games-of-2011/588735/47 "2011-07-14T21:40:27Z")
With our brand-new conference, every game could be an OOC game for Nebraska 😉 Nebraska vs Washington could be interesting. We had to play them twice last year. We crushed them in Seattle, scoring 56 points. Then our offense regressed significantly in the latter part of the year. We drew Washington again in the bowl game and lost 19-7. It was a game that Nebraska clearly didn’t want to be in and the fans basically boycotted it. The more conspiracy-minded saw the bowl selection as a snub by the Big XII, which we were departing. On an embarrassing note, we had a chance to add Boise State to our non-conference this year. Everyone (including NU’s president) was telling Boise they needed a better schedule. We both had an open date, so they asked us: 1. The game would be in Lincoln, not a neutral site 2. It would be one-time only, no return to Boise needed 3. ESPN would televise the game (like the highly-rated Va Tech last year) 4. Boise wanted a $1,000,000 appearance fee Nebraska took Chattanooga instead. Our “excuse” was #4 was just too high, who do they think they are? NU fandom almost bought it, until we discovered we paid Idaho $800,000 for a non-televised 2010 game. Everyone now: “Bock-bock-bock!” ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-must-see-ooc-college-football-games-of-2011/588735/48 "2011-07-14T23:08:20Z")
Definitely, a cluck cluck cluck. But doesn’t surprise me. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-must-see-ooc-college-football-games-of-2011/588735/49 "2011-07-14T23:32:15Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > Schools that merit a “5” in the NFM scale are: USC, Oregon, Boise, Texas, Oklahoma, LSU, Bama, Florida, Auburn, Virginia Tech, Ohio St, Penn St as these schools have consistently gone to the 5 major bowls the last 5-8 years or won a Nat’l Championship. One of these things is not like the others… Penn State has NOT gone to a BCS game consistently in the recent past, nor have they consistently finished in the Top 25. In fact, they aren’t on the [Top 10](http://www.collegepollarchive.com/football/bcs/app_total.cfm) of all-time BCS ranking appearances. 2010 - Not ranked in BCS (lost to UF in the Outback Bowl) 2009 - #13 BCS (beat LSU in the Capital One Bowl) 2008 - #8 BCS (lost to USC in the Rose Bowl) 2007 - Not ranked in BCS (beat Texas A&M in the Alamo Bowl) 2006 - Not ranked in BCS (beat Tennessee in the Outback Bowl) 2005 - #3 BCS (beat an 8-4 FSU team in OT in the Orange Bowl) I don’t think they deserve a 5 anymore. Linebacker U is a thing of the past. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-must-see-ooc-college-football-games-of-2011/588735/50 "2011-07-14T23:53:21Z")
Yes, you are probably right, Alabama goes down down one notch, from 10 to 9. I had forgotten that they sucked a few years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-must-see-ooc-college-football-games-of-2011/588735/51 "2011-07-16T15:42:23Z")
Okay, moving right along, here’s the ACC OOC schedule for 2011. Let’s see how the NFM scale works on these: > [@](#): > > Atlantic Coast > > Atlantic > > Boston Coll. > Sat, Sep 3 Northwestern > Sat, Sep 10 at UCF > Sat, Sep 24 Massachusetts > Sat, Nov 19 at Notre Dame > > Clemson > Sat, Sep 3 Troy > Sat, Sep 10 Wofford > Sat, Sep 17 Auburn > Sat, Nov 26 at South Carolina > > Florida St. > Sat, Sep 3 Louisiana-Monroe > Sat, Sep 10 Charleston Southern > Sat, Sep 17 Oklahoma > Sat, Nov 26 at Florida > > Maryland > Sat, Sep 17 West Virginia > Sat, Sep 24 Temple > Sat, Oct 1 Towson > Sat, Nov 12 at Notre Dame > > N.C. State > Sat, Sep 3 Liberty > Sat, Sep 17 South Alabama > Thu, Sep 22 at Cincinnati > Sat, Oct 8 Central Michigan > > Wake Forest > Thu, Sep 1 at Syracuse > Sat, Sep 17 Gardner-Webb > Sat, Nov 5 Notre Dame > Sat, Nov 26 Vanderbilt > > Coastal > > Duke > Sat, Sep 3 Richmond > Sat, Sep 10 Stanford > Sat, Sep 24 Tulane > Sat, Oct 1 at FIU > > Georgia Tech > Thu, Sep 1 Western Carolina > Sat, Sep 10 at Middle Tennessee > Sat, Sep 17 Kansas > Sat, Nov 26 Georgia > > Miami (FL) > Sat, Sep 17 Ohio State > Sat, Sep 24 Kansas State > Sat, Oct 1 Bethune-Cookman > Sat, Nov 19 at South Florida > > North Carolina > Sat, Sep 3 James Madison > Sat, Sep 10 Rutgers > Sat, Oct 1 at East Carolina > Sat, Oct 8 Louisville > > Virginia > Sat, Sep 3 William & Mary > Sat, Sep 10 at Indiana > Sat, Sep 24 Southern Miss > Sat, Oct 1 Idaho > > Virginia Tech > Sat, Sep 3 Appalachian State > Sat, Sep 10 at East Carolina > Sat, Sep 17 Arkansas State > Sat, Sep 24 at Marshall ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-must-see-ooc-college-football-games-of-2011/588735/52 "2011-07-16T18:19:08Z")
19 OOC BCS schools (including Notre Dame) on the ACC schedule this year, far out pacing the Big 10 (14) and SEC (12). ACC plays of 4 of the teams that I have given a 5 rating. tOSU, OU, Auburn and Florida. I was shocked to see Va Tech’s OOC schedule. What a wimpy OOC schedule! And they usually play an above avg OOC schedule. Boston Coll. 9 Clemson 12 Florida St. 13 Maryland 10 N.C. State 7 Wake Forest 10 Duke 9 Georgia Tech 11 Miami (FL) 11 North Carolina 9 Virginia 8 Virginia Tech 7 details below: Boston Coll. 9 Sat, Sep 3 Northwestern 3 Sat, Sep 10 at UCF 2 Sat, Sep 24 Massachusetts 1 Sat, Nov 19 at Notre Dame 3 Clemson 12 Sat, Sep 3 Troy 2 Sat, Sep 10 Wofford 1 Sat, Sep 17 Auburn 5 Sat, Nov 26 at South Carolina 4 Florida St. 13 Sat, Sep 3 Louisiana-Monroe 2 Sat, Sep 10 Charleston Southern 1 Sat, Sep 17 Oklahoma 5 Sat, Nov 26 at Florida 5 Maryland 10 Sat, Sep 17 West Virginia 4 Sat, Sep 24 Temple 2 Sat, Oct 1 Towson 1 Sat, Nov 12 at Notre Dame 3 N.C. State 7 Sat, Sep 3 Liberty 1 Sat, Sep 17 South Alabama 1? (South Alabama? can’t find them, do they even play football) Thu, Sep 22 at Cincinnati 3 Sat, Oct 8 Central Michigan 2 Wake Forest 10 Thu, Sep 1 at Syracuse 3 Sat, Sep 17 Gardner-Webb 1 Sat, Nov 5 Notre Dame 3 Sat, Nov 26 Vanderbilt 3 Coastal Duke 9 Sat, Sep 3 Richmond 1 Sat, Sep 10 Stanford 4 Sat, Sep 24 Tulane 2 Sat, Oct 1 at FIU 2 Georgia Tech 11 Thu, Sep 1 Western Carolina 2 Sat, Sep 10 at Middle Tennessee 2 Sat, Sep 17 Kansas 3 Sat, Nov 26 Georgia 4 Miami (FL) 11 Sat, Sep 17 Ohio State 5 Sat, Sep 24 Kansas State 3 Sat, Oct 1 Bethune-Cookman 1 Sat, Nov 19 at South Florida 3 North Carolina 9 Sat, Sep 3 James Madison 1 Sat, Sep 10 Rutgers 3 Sat, Oct 1 at East Carolina 2 Sat, Oct 8 Louisville 3 Virginia 8 Sat, Sep 3 William & Mary 2 Sat, Sep 10 at Indiana 3 Sat, Sep 24 Southern Miss 2 Sat, Oct 1 Idaho 1 Virginia Tech 7 Sat, Sep 3 Appalachian State 1 Sat, Sep 10 at East Carolina 2 Sat, Sep 17 Arkansas State 2 Sat, Sep 24 at Marshall 2 ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-must-see-ooc-college-football-games-of-2011/588735/53 "2011-07-16T18:42:22Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > 19 OOC BCS schools (including Notre Dame) on the ACC schedule this year, far out pacing the Big 10 (14) and SEC (12). ACC plays of 4 of the teams that I have given a 5 rating. tOSU, OU, Auburn and Florida. > > I was shocked to see Va Tech’s OOC schedule. What a wimpy OOC schedule! And they usually play an above avg OOC schedule. > Boston Coll. 9 > Clemson 12 > Florida St. 13 > Maryland 10 > N.C. State 7 > Wake Forest 10 > Duke 9 > Georgia Tech 11 > Miami (FL) 11 > North Carolina 9 > Virginia 8 > Virginia Tech 7 > > details below: > > Sat, Sep 17 South Alabama 1? (South Alabama? can’t find them, do they even play football) They’re new to football as a big time sport: [Football - University of South Alabama Athletics](http://usajaguars.com/index.aspx?path=football) Thanks for the work on the NFM scores. I’ll post the other Big Six conferences for you to do similar things to. Than maybe we can pool all the OOC schedules for some sort of overview and guidance on the main theme of the thread. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-must-see-ooc-college-football-games-of-2011/588735/54 "2011-07-16T18:48:58Z")
Here’s the 2011 OOC schedule for the Big East: > [@](#): > > Big East > > Cincinnati > Thu, Sep 1 Austin Peay > Sat, Sep 10 at Tennessee > Sat, Sep 17 Akron > Thu, Sep 22 North Carolina State > Sat, Oct 1 at Miami (OH) > > Connecticut > Thu, Sep 1 Fordham > Sat, Sep 10 at Vanderbilt > Fri, Sep 16 Iowa State > Sat, Sep 24 at Buffalo > Sat, Oct 1 Western Michigan > > Louisville > Thu, Sep 1 Murray State > Fri, Sep 9 FIU > Sat, Sep 17 at Kentucky > Sat, Oct 1 Marshall > Sat, Oct 8 at North Carolina > > Pittsburgh > Sat, Sep 3 Buffalo > Sat, Sep 10 Maine > Sat, Sep 17 at Iowa > Sat, Sep 24 Notre Dame > Sat, Oct 15 Utah > > Rutgers > Thu, Sep 1 North Carolina Central > Sat, Sep 10 at North Carolina > Sat, Sep 24 Ohio > Sat, Oct 15 Navy > Sat, Nov 12 at Army > > South Florida > Sat, Sep 3 at Notre Dame > Sat, Sep 10 Ball State > Sat, Sep 17 Florida A&M > Sat, Sep 24 UTEP > Sat, Nov 19 Miami (FL) > > Syracuse > Thu, Sep 1 Wake Forest > Sat, Sep 10 Rhode Island > Sat, Sep 17 at USC > Sat, Sep 24 Toledo > Sat, Oct 8 at Tulane > > West Virginia > Sun, Sep 4 Marshall > Sat, Sep 10 Norfolk State > Sat, Sep 17 at Maryland > Sat, Sep 24 LSU > Sat, Oct 1 Bowling Green ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-must-see-ooc-college-football-games-of-2011/588735/55 "2011-07-16T18:57:56Z")
Big East totals are inflated because of 5 OOC games instead of 4 Cincinnati 11 Connecticut 11 Louisville 11 Pittsburgh 13 Rutgers 10 South Florida 12 Syracuse 13 West Virginia 13 * * * Cincinnati 11 Thu, Sep 1 Austin Peay 1 Sat, Sep 10 at Tennessee 3 Sat, Sep 17 Akron 2 Thu, Sep 22 North Carolina State 3 Sat, Oct 1 at Miami (OH) 2 Connecticut 11 Thu, Sep 1 Fordham 1 Sat, Sep 10 at Vanderbilt 3 Fri, Sep 16 Iowa State 3 Sat, Sep 24 at Buffalo 2 Sat, Oct 1 Western Michigan 2 Louisville 11 Thu, Sep 1 Murray State 1 Fri, Sep 9 FIU 2 Sat, Sep 17 at Kentucky 3 Sat, Oct 1 Marshall 2 Sat, Oct 8 at North Carolina 3 Pittsburgh 13 Sat, Sep 3 Buffalo 2 Sat, Sep 10 Maine 1 Sat, Sep 17 at Iowa 3 Sat, Sep 24 Notre Dame 3 Sat, Oct 15 Utah 4 Rutgers 10 Thu, Sep 1 North Carolina Central 1 Sat, Sep 10 at North Carolina 3 Sat, Sep 24 Ohio 2 Sat, Oct 15 Navy 2 Sat, Nov 12 at Army 2 South Florida 12 Sat, Sep 3 at Notre Dame 3 Sat, Sep 10 Ball State 2 Sat, Sep 17 Florida A&M 1 Sat, Sep 24 UTEP 2 Sat, Nov 19 Miami (FL) 4 Syracuse 13 Thu, Sep 1 Wake Forest 3 Sat, Sep 10 Rhode Island 1 Sat, Sep 17 at USC 5 Sat, Sep 24 Toledo 2 Sat, Oct 8 at Tulane 2 West Virginia 13 Sun, Sep 4 Marshall 2 Sat, Sep 10 Norfolk State 1 Sat, Sep 17 at Maryland 3 Sat, Sep 24 LSU 5 Sat, Oct 1 Bowling Green 2 ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-must-see-ooc-college-football-games-of-2011/588735/56 "2011-07-16T19:18:57Z")
The Pacific-10 (12) has one interesting schedule that appears to be only two OOC games: > **[The Best of Recruiting and High School Sports](https://www.on3.com/rivals/)** > > Rivals is the best resource for recruiting and high school sports. Find all of your favorite team's information or browse our advanced player database. California Sat, Sep 3 Fresno State Sat, Sep 10 at Colorado Sat, Sep 17 Presbyterian Sat, Sep 24 at Washington Thu, Oct 6 at Oregon Thu, Oct 13 USC Sat, Oct 22 Utah Sat, Oct 29 at UCLA Sat, Nov 5 Washington State Sat, Nov 12 Oregon State Sat, Nov 19 at Stanford Fri, Nov 25 at Arizona State Assuming that’s correct, and why wouldn’t it be?, here’s the 2011 OOC schedule for the conference: > [@](#): > > Pacific-10 > > North > > California > Sat, Sep 3 Fresno State > Sat, Sep 17 Presbyterian > > Oregon > Sat, Sep 3 LSU > Sat, Sep 10 Nevada > Sat, Sep 17 Missouri State > > Oregon St. > Sat, Sep 3 Sacramento State > Sat, Sep 10 at Wisconsin > Sat, Oct 15 Brigham Young > > Stanford > Sat, Sep 3 San Jose State > Sat, Sep 10 at Duke > Sat, Nov 26 Notre Dame > > Washington > Sat, Sep 3 Eastern Washington > Sat, Sep 10 Hawaii > Sat, Sep 17 at Nebraska > > Washington St. > Sat, Sep 3 Idaho State > Sat, Sep 10 UNLV > Sat, Sep 17 at San Diego State > > South > > Arizona > Sat, Sep 3 Northern Arizona > Sat, Sep 10 at Oklahoma State > Sat, Nov 26 Louisiana-Lafayette > > Arizona St. > Thu, Sep 1 UC Davis > Fri, Sep 9 Missouri > Sat, Sep 17 at Illinois > > Colorado > Sat, Sep 3 at Hawaii > Sat, Sep 17 Colorado State > Sat, Sep 24 at Ohio State > > UCLA > Sat, Sep 3 at Houston > Sat, Sep 10 San Jose State > Sat, Sep 17 Texas > > USC > Sat, Sep 3 Minnesota > Sat, Sep 17 Syracuse > Sat, Oct 22 at Notre Dame > > Utah > Thu, Sep 1 Montana State > Sat, Sep 17 at Brigham Young > Sat, Oct 15 at Pittsburgh ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-must-see-ooc-college-football-games-of-2011/588735/57 "2011-07-16T19:24:38Z")
Here’s the Big 12 (10) 2011 OOC schedule: > [@](#): > > Big 12 > > North > > Iowa St. > Sat, Sep 3 Northern Iowa > Sat, Sep 10 Iowa > Fri, Sep 16 at Connecticut > > Kansas > Sat, Sep 3 McNeese State > Sat, Sep 10 Northern Illinois > Sat, Sep 17 at Georgia Tech > > Kansas St. > Sat, Sep 3 Eastern Kentucky > Sat, Sep 17 Kent State > Sat, Sep 24 at Miami (FL) > > Missouri > Sat, Sep 3 Miami (OH) > Fri, Sep 9 at Arizona State > Sat, Sep 17 Western Illinois > > South > > Baylor > Fri, Sep 2 TCU > Sat, Sep 17 Stephen F. Austin > Sat, Sep 24 Rice > > Oklahoma > Sat, Sep 3 Tulsa > Sat, Sep 17 at Florida State > Sat, Oct 1 Ball State > > Oklahoma St. > Sat, Sep 3 Louisiana-Lafayette > Sat, Sep 10 Arizona > Sat, Sep 17 at Tulsa > > Texas > Sat, Sep 3 Rice > Sat, Sep 10 Brigham Young > Sat, Sep 17 at UCLA > > Texas A&M > Sun, Sep 4 Southern Methodist > Sat, Sep 17 Idaho > Sat, Oct 1 Arkansas > > Texas Tech > Sat, Sep 3 Texas State > Sat, Sep 17 at New Mexico > Sat, Sep 24 Nevada ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-must-see-ooc-college-football-games-of-2011/588735/58 "2011-07-16T19:33:17Z")
Dang, you are keeping me busy. 3 OOC for the Big 12 [sic]. Conference: Iowa St. 8 Kansas 7 Kansas St. 7 Missouri 6 Baylor 7 Oklahoma 8 Oklahoma St. 7 Texas 8 Texas A&M 7 Texas Tech 5 * * * Iowa St. 8 Sat, Sep 3 Northern Iowa 1 Sat, Sep 10 Iowa 4 Fri, Sep 16 at Connecticut 3 Kansas 7 Sat, Sep 3 McNeese State 1 Sat, Sep 10 Northern Illinois 2 Sat, Sep 17 at Georgia Tech 4 Kansas St. 7 Sat, Sep 3 Eastern Kentucky 1 Sat, Sep 17 Kent State 2 Sat, Sep 24 at Miami (FL) 4 Missouri 6 Sat, Sep 3 Miami (OH) 2 Fri, Sep 9 at Arizona State 3 Sat, Sep 17 Western Illinois 1 Baylor 7 Fri, Sep 2 TCU 4 Sat, Sep 17 Stephen F. Austin 1 Sat, Sep 24 Rice 2 Oklahoma 8 Sat, Sep 3 Tulsa 2 Sat, Sep 17 at Florida State 4 Sat, Oct 1 Ball State 2 Oklahoma St. 7 Sat, Sep 3 Louisiana-Lafayette 2 Sat, Sep 10 Arizona 3 Sat, Sep 17 at Tulsa 2 Texas 8 Sat, Sep 3 Rice 2 Sat, Sep 10 Brigham Young 3 Sat, Sep 17 at UCLA 3 Texas A&M 7 Sun, Sep 4 Southern Methodist 2 Sat, Sep 17 Idaho 1 Sat, Oct 1 Arkansas 4 Texas Tech 5 Sat, Sep 3 Texas State 1 Sat, Sep 17 at New Mexico 2 Sat, Sep 24 Nevada 2 ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-must-see-ooc-college-football-games-of-2011/588735/59 "2011-07-16T19:42:36Z")
Logically, if one Pac-(Whatever?) team plays 10 different conference foes, another team should have an odd number as well? haven’t investigated to figure out what is wrong. North. California 3 Oregon 8 Oregon St. 8 Stanford 8 Washington 9 Washington St. 5 Arizona 6 Arizona St. 7 Colorado 10 UCLA 9 USC 9 Utah 7 California 3 Sat, Sep 3 Fresno State 2 Sat, Sep 17 Presbyterian 1 Oregon Sat, Sep 3 LSU 5 Sat, Sep 10 Nevada 2 Sat, Sep 17 Missouri State 1 Oregon St. 8 Sat, Sep 3 Sacramento State 1 Sat, Sep 10 at Wisconsin 4 Sat, Oct 15 Brigham Young 3 Stanford Sat, Sep 3 San Jose State 2 Sat, Sep 10 at Duke 3 Sat, Nov 26 Notre Dame 3 Washington Sat, Sep 3 Eastern Washington 1 Sat, Sep 10 Hawaii 3 Sat, Sep 17 at Nebraska 4 Washington St. Sat, Sep 3 Idaho State 1 Sat, Sep 10 UNLV 2 Sat, Sep 17 at San Diego State 2 South Arizona 6 Sat, Sep 3 Northern Arizona 1 Sat, Sep 10 at Oklahoma State 3 Sat, Nov 26 Louisiana-Lafayette 2 Arizona St. 7 Thu, Sep 1 UC Davis 1 Fri, Sep 9 Missouri 3 Sat, Sep 17 at Illinois 3 Colorado 10 Sat, Sep 3 at Hawaii 3 Sat, Sep 17 Colorado State 2 Sat, Sep 24 at Ohio State 5 UCLA 9 Sat, Sep 3 at Houston 2 Sat, Sep 10 San Jose State 2 Sat, Sep 17 Texas 5 USC 9 Sat, Sep 3 Minnesota 3 Sat, Sep 17 Syracuse 3 Sat, Oct 22 at Notre Dame 3 Utah 7 Thu, Sep 1 Montana State 1 Sat, Sep 17 at Brigham Young 3 Sat, Oct 15 at Pittsburgh 3 ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-must-see-ooc-college-football-games-of-2011/588735/60 "2011-07-16T19:46:49Z")
I think something is amiss in the PAC-?? conference. If 11 teams are playing 9 games and 1 team is playing 10 games, that adds up to (11_9 + 10_1) = 109 games. Dividing by two means that there are 54.5 conference games. Something is wrong. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-must-see-ooc-college-football-games-of-2011/588735.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-must-see-ooc-college-football-games-of-2011/588735.md?page=4)