# What are the Must See OOC College Football Games of 2011?

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**Created:** [July 12, 2011, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-must-see-ooc-college-football-games-of-2011/588735 "2011-07-12T13:12:26Z")\
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**Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-must-see-ooc-college-football-games-of-2011/588735/61 "2011-07-16T19:50:16Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> Dang, you are keeping me busy.

It’s just because you seem to be having as much fun with it as I am. Toying with numbers. Besides, I like the “research” to form my own opinion about such stuff instead of just swallowing the opinions of “experts” whose lack of bias is a bit suspect at best.

Do you have a good idea of how to pull all these conference figures together meaningfully?

One thought I had was to do them by month with the NFM scores attached to a by-week summary. That would at least point toward the doggies if not setting the “must see” group apart convincingly.

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**Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-must-see-ooc-college-football-games-of-2011/588735/62 "2011-07-16T20:10:01Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> I think something is amiss in the PAC-?? conference. If 11 teams are playing 9 games and 1 team is playing 10 games, that adds up to (11_9 + 10_1) = 109 games. Dividing by two means that there are 54.5 conference games. Something is wrong.

Here may be part of the answer:

```auto

Pacific-10

North 

California 12
Oregon 12     
Oregon St. 12
Stanford 12
Washington 12 
Washington St. 12

South 

Arizona 12
Arizona St. 12 

Colorado 13 

  Sat, Sep 3 at Hawaii OOC
  Sat, Sep 10 California 
  Sat, Sep 17 Colorado State OOC
  Sat, Sep 24 at Ohio State OOC
  Sat, Oct 1 Washington State 
  Sat, Oct 8 at Stanford  
  Sat, Oct 15 at Washington  
  Sat, Oct 22 Oregon 
  Sat, Oct 29 at Arizona State  
  Fri, Nov 4 USC  
  Sat, Nov 12 Arizona  
  Sat, Nov 19 at UCLA  
  Fri, Nov 25 at Utah  

UCLA 12
USC 12
Utah 12 

```

Nothing like, “Hey, Welcome to the conference, boys!”

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so Colorado is also playing 10 conference games, OK, that makes sense. (plus 3 OOC) games. they get an extra game because of playing @Hawaii? It looks like the Pac-12 SOP is to play your five division opponents, plus 4 teams from the other division. Cal and Col are 4 teams from the other division.

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A major point concerning the fusing of all these by-conference gradings is that we’ve been using the NFM scale to evaluate a school’s OOC quality for the season. That has less to do with the quality of an individual game and more to do with an SOS value.

When it comes to individual games, we need another measure, don’t you think?

Another question to take into account is that the game’s “Must See” index needs to be based on more than some past-oriented score for the two schools involved. One may be on the rise and the other on the sink. That could get very weird and subjective.

What are some thoughts on these issues before we start a week-by-week display of the “Must see” and “Let slide” games?

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> [@Zeldar](#):
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> 10-4, Bubba!
> 
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I’d think that Texas A&M vs. Arkansas is a more interesting and more important game than Texas vs. BYU, based on last year’s results.

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**Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-must-see-ooc-college-football-games-of-2011/588735/66 "2011-07-16T21:48:40Z")

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> [@bump](#):
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> I’d think that Texas A&M vs. Arkansas is a more interesting and more important game than Texas vs. BYU, based on last year’s results.

Your point is one that I’m hoping to find some way to anticipate. Past performances can only be guides to what may happen this year. Pinning your hopes on pre-season rankings and that sort of scoring system, even the odds that get put on games, can often lead to missing a really good game from an excitement and entertainment point of view.

No doubt whatever guess we may make on which games are “must see” and which are “might as well skip” will wind up going wrong any number of times. I’d just like to minimize the really bad games I watch this year. Wouldn’t we all?

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**Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-must-see-ooc-college-football-games-of-2011/588735/67 "2011-07-16T22:17:04Z")

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I like the TAM vs ARK game more than the TEX-BYU game. Because it is two power conferences clashing.

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The Colorado-California game is an OOC game. It was scheduled a few years ago before Colorado changed conferences. Cal would not have been on CO’s schedule otherwise.

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**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-must-see-ooc-college-football-games-of-2011/588735/69 "2011-07-17T06:09:51Z")

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Okay, here’s the first week’s OOC schedule by conference for the Big Six FBS conferences. Those games between schools in these six conferences will appear twice:

```auto

=== Sep 1-4, 2011

SEC OOC 2011

EAST

Florida Sat, Sep 3 Florida Atlantic 
Georgia Sat, Sep 3 Boise State 
Kentucky Thu, Sep 1 at Western Kentucky 
South Carolina Sat, Sep 3 at East Carolina 
Tennessee Sat, Sep 3 Montana 
Vanderbilt Sat, Sep 3 Elon 

WEST

Alabama Sat, Sep 3 Kent State 
Arkansas Sat, Sep 3 Missouri State 
Auburn Sat, Sep 3 Utah State 
LSU Sat, Sep 3 at Oregon 
Mississippi Sat, Sep 3 Brigham Young 
Mississippi State Thu, Sep 1 at Memphis 

================================

Big Ten (12) OOC 2011

Leaders 

Illinois Sat, Sep 3 Arkansas State 
Indiana Sat, Sep 3 at Ball State 
Ohio St. Sat, Sep 3 Akron 
Penn St. Sat, Sep 3 Indiana State 
Purdue Sat, Sep 3 Middle Tennessee 
Wisconsin Thu, Sep 1 UNLV 

Legends 

Iowa Sat, Sep 3 Tennessee Tech 
Michigan Sat, Sep 3 Western Michigan 
Michigan St. Fri, Sep 2 Youngstown State
Minnesota Sat, Sep 3 at USC 
Nebraska Sat, Sep 3 Chattanooga 
Northwestern Sat, Sep 3 at Boston College 

================================

ACC OOC 2011

Atlantic 

Boston Coll. Sat, Sep 3 Northwestern 
Clemson Sat, Sep 3 Troy 
Florida St. Sat, Sep 3 Louisiana-Monroe 
N.C. State Sat, Sep 3 Liberty 
Wake Forest Thu, Sep 1 at Syracuse 

Coastal 

Duke Sat, Sep 3 Richmond 
Georgia Tech Thu, Sep 1 Western Carolina 
North Carolina Sat, Sep 3 James Madison 
Virginia Sat, Sep 3 William & Mary 
Virginia Tech Sat, Sep 3 Appalachian State 
 
================================

Big East 2011 OOC 

Cincinnati Thu, Sep 1 Austin Peay 
Connecticut Thu, Sep 1 Fordham 
Louisville Thu, Sep 1 Murray State 
Pittsburgh Sat, Sep 3 Buffalo 
Rutgers Thu, Sep 1 North Carolina Central 
South Florida Sat, Sep 3 at Notre Dame 
Syracuse Thu, Sep 1 Wake Forest 
West Virginia Sun, Sep 4 Marshall 

====================== 

Pacific-10 (12) 2011 OOC 

North 

California Sat, Sep 3 Fresno State 
Oregon Sat, Sep 3 LSU 
Oregon St. Sat, Sep 3 Sacramento State 
Stanford Sat, Sep 3 San Jose State 
Washington Sat, Sep 3 Eastern Washington 
Washington St. Sat, Sep 3 Idaho State 

South 

Arizona Sat, Sep 3 Northern Arizona 
Arizona St. Thu, Sep 1 UC Davis 
Colorado Sat, Sep 3 at Hawaii 
UCLA Sat, Sep 3 at Houston 
USC Sat, Sep 3 Minnesota 
Utah Thu, Sep 1 Montana State 

================================ 

Big 12 (10) 2011 OOC schedule:

North 

Iowa St. Sat, Sep 3 Northern Iowa  
Kansas Sat, Sep 3 McNeese State  
Kansas St. Sat, Sep 3 Eastern Kentucky 
Missouri Sat, Sep 3 Miami (OH) 

South 

Baylor Fri, Sep 2 TCU 
Oklahoma Sat, Sep 3 Tulsa 
Oklahoma St. Sat, Sep 3 Louisiana-Lafayette      
Texas Sat, Sep 3 Rice 
Texas A&M Sun, Sep 4 Southern Methodist 
Texas Tech Sat, Sep 3 Texas State 

```

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**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-must-see-ooc-college-football-games-of-2011/588735/70 "2011-07-17T16:08:17Z")

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And here are those Week 1 games, dupes removed, by date and in alpha order. Seems too much for a poll, but maybe we can do the same sort of narrowing down to the truly “must see” games in this thread. If somebody else wants to do a poll, please feel free to do so.

Keep in mind that these are only the OOC games for the teams in the Big Six FBS schools.

Which of these are you going to make any effort to see? Where do you see any potential upsets?

```auto

=== Sep 1-4, 2011

Arizona St. Thu, Sep 1 UC Davis 
Cincinnati Thu, Sep 1 Austin Peay 
Connecticut Thu, Sep 1 Fordham 
Georgia Tech Thu, Sep 1 Western Carolina 
Kentucky Thu, Sep 1 at Western Kentucky 

Louisville Thu, Sep 1 Murray State 
Mississippi State Thu, Sep 1 at Memphis 
Rutgers Thu, Sep 1 North Carolina Central 
Syracuse Thu, Sep 1 Wake Forest 
Utah Thu, Sep 1 Montana State 

Wisconsin Thu, Sep 1 UNLV 

Baylor Fri, Sep 2 TCU 
Michigan St. Fri, Sep 2 Youngstown State

Alabama Sat, Sep 3 Kent State 
Arizona Sat, Sep 3 Northern Arizona 
Arkansas Sat, Sep 3 Missouri State 
Auburn Sat, Sep 3 Utah State 
Boston Coll. Sat, Sep 3 Northwestern 

California Sat, Sep 3 Fresno State 
Clemson Sat, Sep 3 Troy 
Colorado Sat, Sep 3 at Hawaii 
Duke Sat, Sep 3 Richmond 
Florida Sat, Sep 3 Florida Atlantic 

Florida St. Sat, Sep 3 Louisiana-Monroe 
Georgia Sat, Sep 3 Boise State 
Illinois Sat, Sep 3 Arkansas State 
Indiana Sat, Sep 3 at Ball State 
Iowa Sat, Sep 3 Tennessee Tech 

Iowa St. Sat, Sep 3 Northern Iowa  
Kansas Sat, Sep 3 McNeese State  
Kansas St. Sat, Sep 3 Eastern Kentucky 
LSU Sat, Sep 3 at Oregon 
Michigan Sat, Sep 3 Western Michigan 

Minnesota Sat, Sep 3 at USC 
Mississippi Sat, Sep 3 Brigham Young 
Missouri Sat, Sep 3 Miami (OH) 
Nebraska Sat, Sep 3 Chattanooga 
North Carolina Sat, Sep 3 James Madison 

N.C. State Sat, Sep 3 Liberty 
Ohio St. Sat, Sep 3 Akron 
Oklahoma Sat, Sep 3 Tulsa 
Oklahoma St. Sat, Sep 3 Louisiana-Lafayette     
Oregon St. Sat, Sep 3 Sacramento State 

Penn St. Sat, Sep 3 Indiana State 
Pittsburgh Sat, Sep 3 Buffalo 
Purdue Sat, Sep 3 Middle Tennessee 
South Carolina Sat, Sep 3 at East Carolina 
South Florida Sat, Sep 3 at Notre Dame 

Stanford Sat, Sep 3 San Jose State 
Tennessee Sat, Sep 3 Montana 
Texas Sat, Sep 3 Rice 
Texas Tech Sat, Sep 3 Texas State
UCLA Sat, Sep 3 at Houston 

Vanderbilt Sat, Sep 3 Elon 
Virginia Sat, Sep 3 William & Mary 
Virginia Tech Sat, Sep 3 Appalachian State 
Washington Sat, Sep 3 Eastern Washington 
Washington St. Sat, Sep 3 Idaho State 
 
Texas A&M Sun, Sep 4 Southern Methodist 
West Virginia Sun, Sep 4 Marshall 

```

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**Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-must-see-ooc-college-football-games-of-2011/588735/71 "2011-07-19T14:14:37Z")

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> [@Zeldar](#):
>
> A major point concerning the fusing of all these by-conference gradings is that we’ve been using the NFM scale to evaluate a school’s OOC quality for the season. That has less to do with the quality of an individual game and more to do with an SOS value.
> 
> When it comes to individual games, we need another measure, don’t you think?
> 
> Another question to take into account is that the game’s “Must See” index needs to be based on more than some past-oriented score for the two schools involved. One may be on the rise and the other on the sink. That could get very weird and subjective.
> 
> What are some thoughts on these issues before we start a week-by-week display of the “Must see” and “Let slide” games?

The more I think on this issue the more dependent on preseason rankings I become. Knowing so little about the overall picture, even the teams that I care most about (SEC!), I have to rely on somebody else’s opinion(s) about which teams are worthy of early interest, especially in terms of which games I should try to see.

I did have this thought that I’d like some feedback on: what if we use one of the all-120 team rankings to grade the OOC games on the highest ranked teams being played by the Big Six schools? As we get closer to the AP and Coaches’ Polls, we could upgrade those borderline games to “must see” once the two teams are closer to Top 25 status.

Counterpoints?

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**Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-must-see-ooc-college-football-games-of-2011/588735/72 "2011-07-19T16:03:58Z")

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Okay, then. Here are some raw materials in case anybody else wants to pursue the project of using the rankings (from January Sagarin) and Week 1’s schedule to sort down to the best bets for “must see” games.

Sources:  
[http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt10.htm](http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt10.htm)

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>
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```auto

 Thursday September 1, 2011 
 
  Murray St. 6:00 pm 156   
  Louisville 51 
 
  S. Carolina St. 7:00 pm 192 
  Cent. Michigan 134 
 
  Villanova 7:00 pm 57  
  Temple 66    
 
  North Texas 7:00 pm 150   
  Florida Intl. 88 
 
  New Hampshire 7:00 pm 81  
  Toledo 92 
 
  N.C. Central 7:30 pm 240  
  Rutgers 90         
 
  Fordham 7:30 pm 201  
  Connecticut 56        
  
  Western Carolina 7:30 pm 193  
  Georgia Tech 70
 
  Montana St. 8:00 pm 109 
  Utah 26 
 
  UNLV 8:00 pm 131  
  Wisconsin 12 
 
  Mississippi St. 8:00 pm 15  
  Memphis 173 
 
  Wake Forest 8:00 pm 102   
  Syracuse 48
 
  Bowling Green 9:00 pm 163  
  Idaho 89                 
 
  Kentucky 9:15 pm 74  
  West. Kentucky 165
 
  UC Davis 10:00 pm 151  
  Arizona St. 23 
 
 Friday September 2, 2011 
 
  Youngstown St. 7:30 pm 159  
  Michigan St. 31 
 
  TCU 8:00 pm 4  
  Baylor 61            
 
 Saturday September 3, 2011 
 
  South Carolina 25
  East Carolina 85
 
  Utah St. 12:00 pm 114  
  Auburn 1            
 
  Northwestern 12:00 pm 71  
  Boston Coll. 49   
 
  Middle Tenn. St. 12:00 pm 138 
  Purdue 96                 
 
  Montana 125 
  Tennessee 63            
 
  Tennessee Tech 12:00 pm 182  
  Iowa 21       
 
  Indiana St. 12:00 pm 148  
  Penn St. 50
 
  Miami (OH) 12:00 pm 77  
  Missouri 17
 
  Akron 12:00 pm 206  
  Ohio St. 7
 
  Florida Atlantic 155 
  Florida 24
 
  Kent St. 12:20 pm 120  
  Alabama 5
 
  Appalachian St. 12:30 pm 75  
  Virginia Tech 13              
 
  Elon 110
  Vanderbilt 126                
 
  Texas St. 195 
  Texas Tech 43
 
  Missouri St. 136
  Arkansas 9
 
  LA Lafayette 162                
  Oklahoma St. 11 
 
  South Dakota 2:00 pm 171  
  Air Force 37 
 
  Sacramento St. 100              
  Oregon St. 29
 
  Northern Arizona 105  
  Arizona 30 
 
  James Madison 3:30 pm 97   
  North Carolina 41 
 
  W. Michigan 3:30 pm 99   
  Michigan 60
 
  LA Monroe 3:30 pm 140  
  Florida St. 14    
 
  Chattanooga 3:30 pm 103  
  Nebraska 27      
 
  South Florida 3:30 pm 44  
  Notre Dame 19
 
  Arkansas St. 3:30 pm 117  
  Illinois 39       
 
  UCLA 3:30 pm 62  
  Houston 82     
 
  Delaware 3:30 pm 52  
  Navy 55 
 
  Troy 3:30 pm 80  
  Clemson 53
 
  Minnesota 3:30 pm 93  
  USC 22
 
  SE Louisiana 3:30 pm 205   
  Tulane 135
 
  BYU 4:45 pm 45  
  Mississippi 84 
 
  Idaho St. 5:00 pm 211  
  Washington St. 79
 
  San Jose St. 5:00 pm 161  
  Stanford 2   
 
  Buffalo 6:00 pm 185  
  Pittsburgh 32  
 
  Colorado St. 6:00 pm 130  
  New Mexico 170                
 
  William & Mary 6:00 pm 76  
  Virginia 87
 
  Liberty 6:00 pm 153  
  N.C. State 18         
 
  McNeese St. 7:00 pm 141  
  Kansas 119 
 
  Howard 7:00 pm 244  
  East. Michigan 183 
 
  Austin Peay 7:00 pm 221  
  Cincinnati 67
 
  Eastern Wash. 7:00 pm 58  
  Washington 28
 
  Rice 7:00 pm 127  
  Texas 64 
 
  Northern Iowa 7:00 pm 124  
  Iowa St. 65 
 
  Indiana 7:00 pm 98  
  Ball St. 160 
 
  Richmond 7:00 pm 115  
  Duke 95 
 
  Fresno St. 7:00 pm 78  
  California 33
 
  Charleston Sou. 7:00 pm 230  
  UCF 42
 
  Army 7:00 pm 73  
  Northern Illinois 46 
 
  Eastern Kentucky 7:00 pm 149 
  Kansas St. 59  
 
  Ohio 8:00 pm 104  
  New Mexico St. 172 
 
  Tulsa 8:00 pm 35  
  Oklahoma 10
 
  LSU 8:00 pm 8  
  Oregon 3
 
  Boise St. 8:00 pm 6  
  Georgia 54
 
  Weber St. 9:00 pm 129  
  Wyoming 108
 
  Stony Brook 9:00 pm 180  
  UTEP 121        
 
  Cal Poly 10:00 pm 147  
  San Diego St. 34               
 
  Louisiana Tech 10:00 pm 91  
  Southern Miss 69 
 
  Colorado 10:15 pm 68  
  Hawaii 47                 
 
 Sunday September 4, 2011 
 
  Marshall 3:30 pm 113 
  West Virginia 36 
 
  SMU 7:30 pm 83  
  Texas A&M 20
 
 Monday September 5, 2011 
 
  Miami (FL) 8:00 pm 40  
  Maryland 38 

```

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Keeping in mind that some of these games may not be totally OOC (I haven’t checked for that), here’s how Week 1 breaks down by day with the order, top to bottom, being determined by the Sagarin January ranking figure for the “weaker” team. From my point of view the game can only be as “must see” as the strength of the “weaker” team. I can understand some tweaking of the precise order for various reasons, and if you want to present a slate of “must see” games based on other criteria, I’d love to see it.

As it stands, based on the responses so far, this is my last word on the issue.

```auto

 Thursday September 1, 2011 

  Villanova 7:00 pm 57  
  Temple 66  
 
  New Hampshire 7:00 pm 81  
  Toledo 92 

  Wake Forest 8:00 pm 102   
  Syracuse 48

  Montana St. 8:00 pm 109 
  Utah 26 

  UNLV 8:00 pm 131  
  Wisconsin 12 

  North Texas 7:00 pm 150   
  Florida Intl. 88 

  UC Davis 10:00 pm 151  
  Arizona St. 23  
 
  Murray St. 6:00 pm 156   
  Louisville 51 

  Bowling Green 9:00 pm 163  
  Idaho 89   

  Kentucky 9:15 pm 74  
  West. Kentucky 165    

  Mississippi St. 8:00 pm 15  
  Memphis 173 
 
  S. Carolina St. 7:00 pm 192 
  Cent. Michigan 134 

  Western Carolina 7:30 pm 193  
  Georgia Tech 70

  Fordham 7:30 pm 201  
  Connecticut 56    
 
  N.C. Central 7:30 pm 240  
  Rutgers 90  

 Friday September 2, 2011 

  TCU 8:00 pm 4  
  Baylor 61   

  Youngstown St. 7:30 pm 159  
  Michigan St. 31 
 
 Saturday September 3, 2011 

  LSU 8:00 pm 8  
  Oregon 3

  Tulsa 8:00 pm 35  
  Oklahoma 10

  South Florida 3:30 pm 44  
  Notre Dame 19
 
  Boise St. 8:00 pm 6  
  Georgia 54

  Delaware 3:30 pm 52  
  Navy 55 

  Eastern Wash. 7:00 pm 58  
  Washington 28

  Colorado 10:15 pm 68  
  Hawaii 47         

  Northwestern 12:00 pm 71  
  Boston Coll. 49  

  Army 7:00 pm 73  
  Northern Illinois 46 

  Appalachian St. 12:30 pm 75  
  Virginia Tech 13       

  Miami (OH) 12:00 pm 77  
  Missouri 17 

  Fresno St. 7:00 pm 78  
  California 33

  Troy 3:30 pm 80  
  Clemson 53

  UCLA 3:30 pm 62  
  Houston 82 

  BYU 4:45 pm 45  
  Mississippi 84 
 
  South Carolina 25
  East Carolina 85

  William & Mary 6:00 pm 76  
  Virginia 87

  Louisiana Tech 10:00 pm 91  
  Southern Miss 69 

  Minnesota 3:30 pm 93  
  USC 22

  James Madison 3:30 pm 97   
  North Carolina 41 

  W. Michigan 3:30 pm 99   
  Michigan 60

  Sacramento St. 100 
  Oregon St. 29

  Chattanooga 3:30 pm 103  
  Nebraska 27   

  Northern Arizona 105  
  Arizona 30 

  Utah St. 12:00 pm 114  
  Auburn 1   

  Richmond 7:00 pm 115  
  Duke 95  

  Arkansas St. 3:30 pm 117  
  Illinois 39     

  Kent St. 12:20 pm 120  
  Alabama 5

  Northern Iowa 7:00 pm 124  
  Iowa St. 65 

  Montana 125 
  Tennessee 63  

  Elon 110
  Vanderbilt 126  

  Rice 7:00 pm 127  
  Texas 64 

  Weber St. 9:00 pm 129  
  Wyoming 108

  Missouri St. 136
  Arkansas 9

  Middle Tenn. St. 12:00 pm 138 
  Purdue 96  

  LA Monroe 3:30 pm 140  
  Florida St. 14   

  McNeese St. 7:00 pm 141  
  Kansas 119 

  Cal Poly 10:00 pm 147  
  San Diego St. 34               
         
  Indiana St. 12:00 pm 148  
  Penn St. 50

  Eastern Kentucky 7:00 pm 149 
  Kansas St. 59 

  Liberty 6:00 pm 153  
  N.C. State 18      

  Florida Atlantic 155 
  Florida 24

  Indiana 7:00 pm 98  
  Ball St. 160 

  San Jose St. 5:00 pm 161  
  Stanford 2   

  LA Lafayette 162  
  Oklahoma St. 11 

  Colorado St. 6:00 pm 130  
  New Mexico 170  

  South Dakota 2:00 pm 171  
  Air Force 37 

  Ohio 8:00 pm 104  
  New Mexico St. 172 

  Stony Brook 9:00 pm 180  
  UTEP 121   
 
  Tennessee Tech 12:00 pm 182  
  Iowa 21  

  Buffalo 6:00 pm 185  
  Pittsburgh 32  
 
  Texas St. 195 
  Texas Tech 43

  SE Louisiana 3:30 pm 205   
  Tulane 135

  Akron 12:00 pm 206  
  Ohio St. 7  
 
  Idaho St. 5:00 pm 211  
  Washington St. 79

  Austin Peay 7:00 pm 221  
  Cincinnati 67

  Charleston Sou. 7:00 pm 230  
  UCF 42
 
  Howard 7:00 pm 244  
  East. Michigan 183         
 
 Sunday September 4, 2011 

  SMU 7:30 pm 83  
  Texas A&M 20
 
  Marshall 3:30 pm 113 
  West Virginia 36 
 
 Monday September 5, 2011 
 
  Miami (FL) 8:00 pm 40  
  Maryland 38 

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**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-must-see-ooc-college-football-games-of-2011/588735/74 "2011-08-05T05:48:14Z")

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Unable to leave well enough alone, I have streamlined the slate of Week 1 games down to just the games between teams with Rivals 120 Preseason Rankings. See [http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1233107](http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1233107) for further details of those numbers. Since that ranking project is still in progress until August 18, the Top 14 teams are still no better defined than Top 14 (T14) at this moment.

By Week 1 day, the games are in descending order of the Rivals Ranking of the “weaker” team, making the games at the top of each day the ones more likely (from a ranking standpoint) to produce interesting games. The likelihood of upsets nearer the top of the list should be considered as a by-product of what those with closer rankings will produce. Of course, all that will be determined at game time and is anybody’s guess.

Anyway, if you want to be guided by the numbers, here they are:

```auto

 
 Thursday September 1, 2011  

  Wake Forest 87
  Syracuse 59  
   
  North Texas 98
  Florida Intl. 79 

  UNLV 103
  Wisconsin T14

  Kentucky 63
  West. Kentucky 112

  Bowling Green 108  
  Idaho 114 
 
  Mississippi St. 31
  Memphis 119
 
 Saturday September 3, 2011 

  LSU T14
  Oregon T14

  Boise St. T14
  Georgia 27        

  South Florida 43
  Notre Dame T14 

  Tulsa 47
  Oklahoma T14    

  Northwestern 48 
  Boston Coll. 41

  BYU 25
  Mississippi 54

  Fresno St. 62
  California 60

  Colorado 67 
  Hawaii 55

  UCLA 68
  Houston 46

  South Carolina 17
  East Carolina 70
 
  Miami (OH) 71 
  Missouri 34

  Troy 76
  Clemson 40  

  Louisiana Tech 78
  Southern Miss 53

  Army 84
  Northern Illinois 57  

  W. Michigan 85
  Michigan 36

  LA Monroe 94
  Florida St. T14  

  Florida Atlantic 96
  Florida 21

  Arkansas St. 99
  Illinois 56

  Minnesota 102
  USC 19

  Utah St. 104
  Auburn 30

  Kent St. 105
  Alabama T14

  Rice 106
  Texas 22

  Middle Tenn. St. 107 
  Purdue 74

  Colorado St. 90
  New Mexico 110 

  San Jose St. 111
  Stanford T14

  Buffalo 113
  Pittsburgh 35

  Indiana 89
  Ball St. 116

  LA Lafayette 117
  Oklahoma St. T14
 
  Akron 118
  Ohio St. 16  
 
  Ohio 83 
  New Mexico St. 120

 
 Sunday September 4, 2011 

  SMU 39
  Texas A&M T14

  Marshall 97 
  West Virginia 24
 
 Monday September 5, 2011 
 
  Miami (FL) 28
  Maryland 44 

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**Post date:** [September 4, 2011, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-must-see-ooc-college-football-games-of-2011/588735/75 "2011-09-04T16:26:20Z")

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Okay, Week 1 is behind us. What are the important OOC games for Week 2?

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**Post date:** [January 10, 2012, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-the-must-see-ooc-college-football-games-of-2011/588735/76 "2012-01-10T15:32:07Z")

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Just thought I’d give this a bump to see if we can get a new one going for 2012 as soon as schedules are firmed up.

Did any of the predictions work out for you? What game stands out as the best OOC game of the 2011 season?

What criteria make the best sense for determing OOC Game quality?

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