# What are/were your contrary opinions?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 20, 2017, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-were-your-contrary-opinions/789452 "2017-06-20T17:23:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![JXJohns](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jxjohns/32/469_2.png) [@JXJohns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JXJohns)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-were-your-contrary-opinions/789452/81 "2017-06-26T17:56:28Z")

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> [@TRC4941](#):
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> I thought of another one…
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> I like Nickelback!

They put on a great live show and sound good in my car.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-were-your-contrary-opinions/789452/82 "2017-06-26T19:18:45Z")

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Jack Vance is a much more imaginative and skilled writer than JRR Tolkien. It’s not even close.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-were-your-contrary-opinions/789452/83 "2017-06-26T20:34:27Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> There are tons of craft beers that are not over-hopped. If you’re just looking at pilsners and lagers:
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> Let’s start with establishing Pilsner Urquell as a baseline at 40 IBUs.
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> Firestone Walker’s Pivo Pils matches PU at 40.  
> Lagunitas’ Pils clocks in at 35 IBU.  
> Sam Adams Boston lager is 30.  
> Brooklyn Lager is 28.  
> North Coast Scrimshaw Pils is 22.
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> And then you have the kolsches, brown ales, Belgian styles, sours, berliners, wheat beers etc. Something like a Fat Tire (which I don’t like) comes in at under 20 IBUs (18.5). Goose Island’s 312 Urban Wheat (ubiquitous around here) is 18 IBU. Bell’s Oberon (my favorite summer beer) is 10. There’s plenty of craft beers that are not IPAs and highly hopped out there.

OK. I still prefer Bud, Rolling Rock and Natty Boh to any of them except Pilsner Urquell.

> [@madmonk28](#):
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> Jack Vance is a much more imaginative and skilled writer than JRR Tolkien. It’s not even close.

This shouldn’t even be controversial.

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**Author:** ![ZonexandScout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zonexandscout/32/544_2.png) [@ZonexandScout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZonexandScout)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-were-your-contrary-opinions/789452/84 "2017-06-26T21:13:27Z")

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> [@Crane](#):
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> Liked the food in the Air Force  
> Love liver and onions  
> Like to read math books  
> 0!=1 is exciting  
> Love Opera
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> I don’t do well at speed dating.

DING! I was just skimming through these, but you reminded me:

I really like institutional food. Hospital, school cafeteria, military mess halls, whatever…I like it. Give me one of those metal trays with sections and I’m happy.

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**Author:** ![ZonexandScout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zonexandscout/32/544_2.png) [@ZonexandScout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZonexandScout)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-were-your-contrary-opinions/789452/85 "2017-06-26T21:17:30Z")

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> [@salinqmind](#):
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> Young Frankenstein…(sigh) everyone talks about it frantically as if it is THE FUNNIEST MOVIE ever made. I like the actors, I like the look of it, I don’t hate it - but I really don’t think it’s all that funny. Maybe it’s because of Gene Wilder just shout shout shouting his lines. Shouting doesn’t make stuff funnier. (and he’s had some extensive actor-training in his life!)

Gotta agree. I’m on the outs with a lot of friends who quote _YF_ endlessly. I also don’t care for _The Big Lebowski_, so I’m doubly screwed.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-were-your-contrary-opinions/789452/86 "2017-06-26T21:56:41Z")

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I am pro-death. At the risk of copyright infringement for Bill Maher’s “Be More Cynical” special from 1999 (which is really good, BTW), I am pro death penalty, pro suicide, pro ANYTHING that gets the freeway moving faster. As Bill eloquently puts it, death is not the worst thing to happen to you and we are one of the first societies to think so and try to prolong life beyond what nature calls for.

Favorite quote from his bit: “It’s not surprising that we have a hair pill and a boner pill before we have a cure for cancer. Cancer? We’ll get to it! What’s the point of having a corpse if we can’t get them rock-hard erections?”

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-were-your-contrary-opinions/789452/87 "2017-06-26T22:03:26Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> I am pro-death. At the risk of copyright infringement for Bill Maher’s “Be More Cynical” special from 1999 (which is really good, BTW), I am pro death penalty, pro suicide, pro ANYTHING that gets the freeway moving faster. As Bill eloquently puts it, death is not the worst thing to happen to you and we are one of the first societies to think so and try to prolong life beyond what nature calls for.
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> Favorite quote from his bit: “It’s not surprising that we have a hair pill and a boner pill before we have a cure for cancer. Cancer? We’ll get to it! What’s the point of having a corpse if we can’t get them rock-hard erections?”

To you, is there a difference between being “pro-abortion” and “pro-choice”? I think all these thing you mention are issues of choice, either having it or not. Who the hell would be _pro_-suicide or _pro_-abortion? Besides a comic book villian, that is.

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**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2017, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-were-your-contrary-opinions/789452/88 "2017-06-27T01:36:40Z")

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I think JK Rowling is a very good writer. This may not make me a 10 percenter in most circumstances, but I’m fairly sure it does here. Not talking necessarily about quality of prose, which is something that rarely spoils my enjoyment of a book unless it’s hopelessly clunky (or pretentious), but her large-scale plotting is excellent. Thinking, for instance of things like the start of the Prisoner of Azkaban, where she pulls a beautifully-executed mystery-writer’s “I am now going to give you the key to the whole plot, in such a way that you’ll never realise you have it” or the long term bait-and-switch on James Potter’s childhood character. It’s no surprise to me that the next thing she went on to do were grown up 'tekky stories (which are also very enjoyable)

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2017, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-were-your-contrary-opinions/789452/89 "2017-06-27T02:51:15Z")

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> [@ZonexandScout](#):
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> I really like institutional food. Hospital, school cafeteria, military mess halls, whatever…I like it. Give me one of those metal trays with sections and I’m happy.

Hey, me too! I even look forward to my little airplane meals. 🙂

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2017, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-were-your-contrary-opinions/789452/90 "2017-06-27T02:56:10Z")

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> [@purplehearingaid](#):
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> I found out later is was the cilantro that tasted like soap and I also found out this has a lot to do with your genes . The stuff is vile !

There is certainly a genetic component to it, but it’s also a lot to do with exposure to it. My friends and I in the late 80s went to our first authentic Mexican restaurant and the house pico de gallo was just loaded with cilantro. None of us had experienced it before, and we all thought the place just didn’t rinse the soap off their dishes. After repeated exposures, though, we just got used to it and it’s become one of our favorite herbs. I can still taste the soapy component to it, but it doesn’t read as “soap” to my tastebuds anymore. I think it’s kind of how Europeans (and other folks) find root beer absolutely disgusting and medicinal, or hate the weird, soured milk undertone of Hershey’s milk chocolate, but we Americans are used to it because we grew up with those flavors.

I mean, for some people, it doesn’t matter and the aversions stays. (For example, my mother hates caraway, though caraway figures prominently in the Polish cuisine she grew up with.) But many cilantro lovers, at least in my experience, did detect that soap flavor initially.

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**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2017, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-were-your-contrary-opinions/789452/91 "2017-06-27T02:56:58Z")

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Lynyrd Skynyrd is the worst band ever.

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**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2017, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-were-your-contrary-opinions/789452/92 "2017-06-27T03:25:25Z")

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> [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](#):
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> Lynyrd Skynyrd is the worst band ever.

You should get out more.

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**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2017, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-were-your-contrary-opinions/789452/93 "2017-06-27T03:29:54Z")

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The northern great plains are some of the most beautiful land in the world.

Potlucks are a terrible custom.

Dogs and cats bred to have deformed faces so that they look more like humans are an abomination.

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2017, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-were-your-contrary-opinions/789452/94 "2017-06-27T14:28:12Z")

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> [@Ulfreida](#):
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> You should get out more.

As in: there are even _worse_ bands out there? I love this plan! I’m excited to be a part of it! LET’S DO IT!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2017, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-were-your-contrary-opinions/789452/95 "2017-06-27T14:35:27Z")

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I love the smell of gasoline.

I prefer skim milk to any other kind.

Just about every steak is better with A-1 sauce on it.

The Rolling Stones in all these years have had only two or three really good songs, and one of them is “Gimme Shelter.”

> [@Oly](#):
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> I don’t know how unpopular my preferences are, but I much prefer the original theater release of Bladerunner (with the voiceover and “happy” ending) to the director’s cut…

Agreed. I’d say the same about _Dark City_’s opening voiceover.

> [@HubZilla](#):
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> …I didn’t mind **Lord of the Rings** left things out the book. I always kind of skipped over Tom Bombadil and Scouring of the Shire when reading anyway…

Ditto.

> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> …Skin without tattoos is more attractive.
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> There is nothing wrong with catsup on hot dogs…

Right you are!

> [@salinqmind](#):
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> Young Frankenstein…(sigh) everyone talks about it frantically as if it is THE FUNNIEST MOVIE ever made. I like the actors, I like the look of it, I don’t hate it - but I really don’t think it’s all that funny…

Yes. _Young Frankenstein, Grand Illusion, Bad Day at Black Rock, Touch of Evil, Rope, All the King’s Men, Mad Max: Fury Road, Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, Dogma_ and yes, _Citizen Kane_ are all overrated IMHO. And the American remake of _The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo_ is better than the Swedish original, dammit.

> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> I like pineapple on pizza…

Me, too! With pepperoni, please.

> [@madmonk28](#):
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> Jack Vance is a much more imaginative and skilled writer than JRR Tolkien. It’s not even close.

Well, I like Jack Vance very much, but I wouldn’t go _that_ far.

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**Author:** ![Jennshark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Jennshark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jennshark)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2017, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-were-your-contrary-opinions/789452/96 "2017-06-27T20:18:30Z")

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I really dislike hot/humid/non-noticeable-seasons/tropical-y places. I lived in San Diego for 18 years and hated it. I hated Puerto Vallarta, Mazatlan, and Florida. I have less than zero interest in going to Hawaii, Asia, Fiji, and the like. I hate stupid palm trees and jungle flora.

I wouldn’t go to any of these or similar places even if I won an all expenses paid trip . . . but I’d pay my own way to the Arctic Circle, Northern Europe, and other similar climes.

Surely I’m in the _extreme_ minority here?

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2017, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-were-your-contrary-opinions/789452/97 "2017-06-27T20:27:10Z")

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> [@Jennshark](#):
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> I really dislike hot/humid/non-noticeable-seasons/tropical-y places. I lived in San Diego for 18 years and hated it. I hated Puerto Vallarta, Mazatlan, and Florida. I have less than zero interest in going to Hawaii, Asia, Fiji, and the like. I hate stupid palm trees and jungle flora.
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> I wouldn’t go to any of these or similar places even if I won an all expenses paid trip . . . but I’d pay my own way to the Arctic Circle, Northern Europe, and other similar climes.
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> Surely I’m in the _extreme_ minority here?

I believe you are, but I absolutely agree with you. Hate beachhead type places, hate weather much higher than 80; hate humidity; hate incessant sun. That said, Hawaii is quite lovely, despite my dislike of island tropics, beaches, and things of that nature. There’s just a whole lot of interesting geography, flora, and fauna there.

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**Author:** ![race\_to\_the\_bottom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c4cdca/32.png) [@race\_to\_the\_bottom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/race_to_the_bottom)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2017, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-were-your-contrary-opinions/789452/98 "2017-06-27T23:48:58Z")

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> [@DeepLiquid](#):
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> I am female and I do not like males, either sexually or socially. I’d say that puts me in the 10% category.

I have always said that if I were a woman, I would be a lesbian. Seriously.

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2017, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-were-your-contrary-opinions/789452/99 "2017-06-28T02:22:56Z")

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> [@ZonexandScout](#):
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> Gotta agree. I’m on the outs with a lot of friends who quote _YF_ endlessly.

Same here. And I _adore_ Gene Wilder, too. But I couldn’t make it through that movie without literally falling asleep (in a theater, showing a revival version a couple years ago).

I also can’t stand _The Princess Bride_ (another one I watch to fall asleep to), _Seinfeld_, or _Friends_.

And I’ll probably lose my geek card for admitting this, but I’m not overly fond of Monty Python. I can take them in small doses, but too much is…well…too much.

On the other hand, I love the movie _Xanadu_.

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**Post date:** [June 28, 2017, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-were-your-contrary-opinions/789452/100 "2017-06-28T04:05:12Z")

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Thought I’d be in a real minority in disliking beer, wine, liquor, and coffee. Evidently not.

My default pizza order is pepperoni and pineapple; the acid of the fruit cuts through the greasiness of the cheese, and the sweetness complements the savoriness of the meat, cheese, and sauce.

I love the smells of gasoline, mothballs, fresh hot asphalt, and skunk, when it’s just far enough away that you sniff and say, “Is that a skunk?”

Don’t enjoy jazz music, and don’t understand aficionados who do.

Terry Gross is a horrible interviewer.

Black English Vernacular is oftentimes more euphonious than Standard American English.

Continuous-flow games like basketball, hockey, and above all, soccer, are boring. My city has a brand-new MLS franchise, and judging by all the jerseys, flag, and stickers I see in my neighborhood, I’m _definitely_ in the minority in saying I’d much rather watch a tennis match or a baseball game, or even a golf tournament, than an MLS or English Premier League game.

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