# What are you shallow about?

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-you-shallow-about/218537
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion
**Created:** [December 12, 2003, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-you-shallow-about/218537 "2003-12-12T05:38:38Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![jesleigh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/58f4c7/32.png) [@jesleigh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jesleigh)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2003, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-you-shallow-about/218537/1 "2003-12-12T05:38:38Z")

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I don’t consider myself a shallow person. I have been interesting in some very unattractive guys before, just because they make me laugh or have a great personality. But, I have noticed something. I can not date a guy that is shorter than me. I know it is shallow, but I just can’t do it. So, anyone else not consider themselves shallow, but have one thing (or more) that they are shallow about?

Please, cause it will make me feel better 😉

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### Author: ![improbably\_blonde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8dc957/32.png) [@improbably\_blonde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/improbably_blonde)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2003, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-you-shallow-about/218537/2 "2003-12-12T05:42:37Z")

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I give up instantly on snobs of all kinds.  
Wine snobs, fancy brand chocolate snobs, people who can’t recommend their gym/club/polo team enough.

I’ve sometimes wondered if I’d been too quick to judge and they might not have been snobs but just trying to impress me.

But, hey, snap decisions is what shallow is all about!

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### Author: ![John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Carter_of_Mars)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2003, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-you-shallow-about/218537/3 "2003-12-12T06:29:13Z")

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Ummm, I was gonna’ say just about what **improbably blonde** said. If I notice snobbery, you don’t get a second chance.

**Jesleigh** , I wouldn’t call it shallowness if you don’t want to date guys who are shorter than you. In that case, they either make you feel it or they don’t. If for some reason the short guys don’t do it for you, well, _shrug_.

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### Author: ![wendyrules](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/85e7bf/32.png) [@wendyrules](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wendyrules)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2003, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-you-shallow-about/218537/4 "2003-12-12T06:31:42Z")

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I don’t consider myself shallow at all. I am open and honest at all times… sometimes with the need to exercise just a pinch of tact, though!

What you see is what you get, with me. I can’t stand false or pretentious people.

Also, I will always speak from my heart (life’s experiences have taught me to think long and hard before shooting off at the mouth!)

But **jesliegh** , the fact that you don’t date men shorter than you, in my opinion, doesn’t make you “shallow”. To me, I think it’s just that you have a personal preference for your guy to be same height or taller than you! My interpretation of a shallow person is someone who is not being honest with either themselves or the rest of the world.

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### Author: ![wendyrules](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/85e7bf/32.png) [@wendyrules](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wendyrules)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2003, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-you-shallow-about/218537/5 "2003-12-12T06:33:09Z")

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Ooops! Sorry I mis-spelled your name… \ ***jesleigh** 🙂

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### Author: ![SnoopyFan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d07c76/32.png) [@SnoopyFan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnoopyFan)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2003, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-you-shallow-about/218537/6 "2003-12-12T06:35:55Z")

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I’ve never had a long lasting friendship with anyone who isn’t an avid reader.

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### Author: ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2003, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-you-shallow-about/218537/7 "2003-12-12T07:42:30Z")

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I won’t date smokers, or drinkers (I don’t mean someone who has a nip now and again, I mean _ **Drinkers** _).

And though I have dated a few, I am seriously NOT attracted to skinny men. Not only do I find skinnyness physically VERY unattractive, in my experience, skinny men have bad and mean personalities.

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### Author: ![Jervoise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d2c977/32.png) [@Jervoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jervoise)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2003, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-you-shallow-about/218537/8 "2003-12-12T07:48:07Z")

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Shallow, huh? _Well_, where do I start?

I don’t go for men younger than me. I also not interested in men who aren’t educated or clever enough to challenge me intellectually. I don’t trust non-drinkers (except for ex-drinkers or those with health issues), or people who don’t know how to party hard.

Looks-wise, I can deal with an average face, but I’m decidedly NOT attracted to men who don’t exercise regularly–and the buffer, the better.

Pale skin, lack of confidence, bad hair and hairyness ('cept on a big guy) are all major turn-offs.

… yep, I gotcha shallow right here!

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### Author: ![spacezinator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5fc32e/32.png) [@spacezinator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spacezinator)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2003, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-you-shallow-about/218537/9 "2003-12-12T07:56:06Z")

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That’s not shallow, it’s sensible. I wouldn’t date guy shorter than me, but then, he’d have to be really short. It’s just a hassle, but on the flip side, I wouldn’t date a guy over 6’, either.

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### Author: ![spacezinator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5fc32e/32.png) [@spacezinator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spacezinator)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2003, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-you-shallow-about/218537/10 "2003-12-12T07:58:19Z")

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None of these are shallow. Shallow people won’t date you for really stupid reasons that effect they way THEY look. People who base their whole choosing process on looks or status.

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### Author: ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2003, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-you-shallow-about/218537/11 "2003-12-12T09:01:44Z")

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I’m shallow when it comes to really beautiful young women. I figure they are all just about looks and don’t have any real substance. Usually, very conceited and dumb is my first impression.

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### Author: ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2003, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-you-shallow-about/218537/12 "2003-12-12T09:07:11Z")

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I guess its a Jessica Simpson complex. Ya know, girls like that.  
Is this fish or chicken?

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### Author: ![wendyrules](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/85e7bf/32.png) [@wendyrules](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wendyrules)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2003, 9:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-you-shallow-about/218537/13 "2003-12-12T09:13:53Z")

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Here I go… :rolleyes: Just a little rant… What makes a person “shallow” is, supposedly, a person of no substance… ALL of us are people and have something to offer, just whether or not we have the confidence to display it… so NEVER judge anyone as “shallow”… just take a step back and perhaps (before giving them that “personal tag” as being shallow, remember that perhaps they are just lacking self-confidence)

_guzzles yet another glass of wine_ :o … sorry I’ll leave now! 😃

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### Author: ![Jennyrosity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@Jennyrosity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jennyrosity)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2003, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-you-shallow-about/218537/14 "2003-12-12T10:50:31Z")

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I’m incredibly shallow about clothes, shoes and make-up. Yeah, I’m vain AND I’m a label-snob, but, hey at least I admit it! When it comes to guys though - nah. Nothing else matters as long as they make me happy :).

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### Author: ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2003, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-you-shallow-about/218537/15 "2003-12-12T13:55:33Z")

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> \*Originally posted by CanvasShoes \*  
> \*\* Not only do I find skinnyness physically VERY unattractive, in my experience, skinny men have bad and mean personalities. \*\*

Heeeeyyyyyyyyy…I may be bad and mean, but … what was the other thing you said?

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### Author: ![Green\_Cymbeline](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_cymbeline/32/9244_2.png) [@Green\_Cymbeline](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Cymbeline)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2003, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-you-shallow-about/218537/16 "2003-12-12T19:34:28Z")

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I am the same way, I have to admit. A guy has to be significantly taller than me. And I really like skinny guys and not that into chunky guys. I could totally like the guy, but the _attraction_ would just not be there in the bedroom. Harriness or balding don’t bother me all that much though. Also, I hate to admit it, but a guy has to at least have the same education as me, which isn’t too hard because it’s only a bachelor’s degree. I really don’t think I could be with a guy without a degree. I feel guilt sometimes about these feelings, which could be labeled as shallow, perhaps. But I just can’t help what I am attracted to, it must be programmed into my genes!

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### Author: ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2003, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-you-shallow-about/218537/17 "2003-12-12T19:42:06Z")

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I have you all beat. I broke up with a guy because he was too short for his accent.

And I broke up with another guy partly because he put cheeze whiz on nearly everything I made. Dumb fucker.

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### Author: ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2003, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-you-shallow-about/218537/18 "2003-12-12T19:46:10Z")

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I wonder if that’s a bannable offense. It probably should be.

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### Author: ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2003, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-you-shallow-about/218537/19 "2003-12-12T19:46:10Z")

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I wonder if that’s a bannable offense. It probably should be.

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### Author: ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2003, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-you-shallow-about/218537/20 "2003-12-12T19:49:31Z")

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That and double posts. See y’all. It’s been nice.

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