# What are you shallow about?

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-you-shallow-about/218537
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion
**Created:** [December 12, 2003, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-you-shallow-about/218537 "2003-12-12T05:38:38Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2003, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-you-shallow-about/218537/21 "2003-12-12T19:59:41Z")

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You dated Beck?

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### Author: ![scout1222](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@scout1222](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scout1222)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2003, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-you-shallow-about/218537/22 "2003-12-12T20:10:44Z")

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Understated, but brilliant, **lieu**!

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### Author: ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2003, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-you-shallow-about/218537/23 "2003-12-12T20:24:01Z")

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If you are really shallow about something, by definition you are not aware of it and therefore cannot post it here. 😉

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### Author: ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2003, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-you-shallow-about/218537/24 "2003-12-12T20:41:36Z")

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Is Beck a little bitty guy?

And, Malthus, that would be “ignorant”, not “shallow”.

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### Author: ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2003, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-you-shallow-about/218537/25 "2003-12-12T21:02:40Z")

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Naw. [He just likes to get crazy with the Cheeze Whiz.](http://trueromance10.tripod.com/loser.html)

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### Author: ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2003, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-you-shallow-about/218537/26 "2003-12-12T21:34:49Z")

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God…I feel like such a geezer. A Cheeze Whiz Geezer.

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### Author: ![boofy\_bloke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@boofy\_bloke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boofy_bloke)
#### Post date: [December 13, 2003, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-you-shallow-about/218537/27 "2003-12-13T05:29:04Z")

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I met a guy on the net, we traded pics, chatted by SMS (phone text), arranged to meet… he sent me a text saying [slight paraphrase]I just walked past you. No. I have an image to uphold.[/slight paraphrase]

That’s shallow!

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### Author: ![anu-la1979](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/47e85d/32.png) [@anu-la1979](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anu-la1979)
#### Post date: [December 13, 2003, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-you-shallow-about/218537/28 "2003-12-13T05:30:06Z")

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I no longer date Indian men who have fewer degrees than I do-I could care less myself, but have instituted this blanket policy as a means of is self-protection from psychotic Indian parents pissed off that I’m too much of over-qualified for their Precious-Wecious who deserves someone more submissive and complacent. What that has to do with not going to graduate school is beyond me but I can only take so many heart-wrenching breakups where I’m summarily dismissed for someone from the Mother Country. So I’m a shallow degree snob, I guess.

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### Author: ![skeptic\_ev](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@skeptic\_ev](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/skeptic_ev)
#### Post date: [December 13, 2003, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-you-shallow-about/218537/29 "2003-12-13T05:48:26Z")

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> My interpretation of a shallow person is someone who is not being honest with either themselves or the rest of the world.

I would call that hypocritical or perhaps delusional, **wendyrules** , not shallow. If I knew someone who said, “I want a six-foot hunk who wears $5000 suits, owns three homes, and spoils me rotten,” regardless of how _honest_ that person was being, I would most certainly consider her shallow.

Shallow just means superficial. If you are shallow, you are “concerned only with what is obvious.” (WordNet, Princeton University) So, yes, if you won’t date guys under a certain height, that is, by definition, shallow.

That being said, most of us have shallow traits. (I, for instance, am rendered queasy–and not in a good way–by the site of a super-hairy guy.) It’s a part of human nature that’s not particularly endearing, but most people keep it under control.

BTW, **CanvasShoes** , I don’t think the smoking/drinking thing is shallow at all. I would never date someone who didn’t care about his health or the health of others; nor would I date someone whose way of dealing with the world was crawling into a bottle.

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### Author: ![Ryle\_Dup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Ryle\_Dup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryle_Dup)
#### Post date: [December 13, 2003, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-you-shallow-about/218537/30 "2003-12-13T06:01:23Z")

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Honestly I don’t know, the only girl I’ve dated(dating) I met through the internet, fell in love with her before I knew what she looked like, and she turned out to be gorgeous. I don’t know if the loving her thing made her more pretty or not, but no matter, I think she’s beautiful.

There’s nothing about her I’d really change, prettiest woman I know of. So I’m not sure what would be shallow to me.

I don’t really know what qualifiers I would have on other women, but I don’t think it matters to me anymore, I’d never reject someone for their looks. But, doesn’t matter anymore to me.

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### Author: ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)
#### Post date: [December 13, 2003, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-you-shallow-about/218537/31 "2003-12-13T12:07:36Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Jervoise \*  
> \*\* I don’t trust non-drinkers (except for ex-drinkers or those with health issues), or people who don’t know how to party hard.  
> \*\*

:eek: :eek: :eek:

Sorry to hijack, but um Whaaaa?

So, you LIKE men who steal money from your purse to buy beer? Men who get stupid and make mean cracks? Men who don’t come home until 4am, and when they do they’re smelling of alchohol and even though they’ve ignored you all week long all the sudden it’s “c’mere baby, how 'bout a little”??

You’ve got me WAAAAAAY curious here, why are “non-drinkers” the not to be trusted ones?

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### Author: ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)
#### Post date: [December 13, 2003, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-you-shallow-about/218537/32 "2003-12-13T12:11:50Z")

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> \*Originally posted by skeptic\_ev \*  
> \*\*BTW, **CanvasShoes** , I don’t think the smoking/drinking thing is shallow at all. I would never date someone who didn’t care about his health or the health of others; nor would I date someone whose way of dealing with the world was crawling into a bottle. \*\*

You’d be surprised how often I’ve been accused by drinkers/smokers, or men who do _both_ of not only being shallow, or a snob, but that I’m “trying to tell them what to do”. 😕

In other words, they viewed my preferences as trying to say that they “couldn’t” drink, smoke, do drugs, and so on. No, you can drink, smoke and blow crack to your little old hearts content, but you probably will narrow your dating field that way.

[Divine as the Sea Witch]“Life’s just full of tough choices, IDN’t it”???[/Divine as Ursula]

God dating sucks. 😃

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### Author: ![UselessGit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/74df32/32.png) [@UselessGit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UselessGit)
#### Post date: [December 13, 2003, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-you-shallow-about/218537/33 "2003-12-13T12:54:40Z")

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I’m fairly shallow when it comes to looks, I’ve nothing against people who aren’t stunners but I just can’t look past the looks when it comes to romantic notions. I also have an immense disliking of dumb women and I tend to think good looking women are stupid before talking to them. I’m usually right, though. Oh, and I’m afraid to handle skinny girls, afraid I might break something…

I could never date a girl that I thought was seriously lacking in intellect, pretty sad considering that I have no education from the age of 16 and am, by all normal standards, a drop-out/failure…

So… shallow, dim AND pretentious, beat that…

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### Author: ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2003, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-you-shallow-about/218537/34 "2003-12-28T21:07:32Z")

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> \*Originally posted by jesleigh \*  
> \*\*But, I have noticed something. I can not date a guy that is shorter than me. I know it is shallow, but I just can’t do it. \*\*

Very, very interesting. Notice how the flames aren’t flying.

However, if some poor guy admitted to not liking fat women, this thread would be on its second or third page, at least, with a spinoff in the Pit.

As for me … yeah, I’ll admit to the weight thing. If she seems larger than me, I just can’t find myself attracted to her, no matter how wodnerful her personality. Baby fat is fine, but self-identified BBWs … well, things just seem out-of-whack. I should be the one that has a greater physical presence, not her.

That, and gummy smiles too.

elmwood (all 5’ 10" of me, and waiting for the inevitable Pitting. ☹ )

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### Author: ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2003, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-you-shallow-about/218537/35 "2003-12-28T21:26:05Z")

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Way down deep

in very inmost inner me

my heart of hearts

the depth of my soul

I’m really quite shallow.

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That being said, whenever some friend or family member accuses me of being shallow in something, I respond that it’s not shallow. It’s my preference. My taste. Trying to make everyone ascribe to _your_ ideals, to me, THAT’S what shallow.

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### Author: ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2003, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-you-shallow-about/218537/36 "2003-12-28T21:28:35Z")

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> \*Originally posted by CanvasShoes \*  
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> God dating sucks. \*\*

Try dating mortals.

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### Author: ![geewhiz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f0a364/32.png) [@geewhiz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/geewhiz)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2003, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-you-shallow-about/218537/37 "2003-12-28T21:50:06Z")

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1. Don’t date hard partiers or drinkers.

2. Will not date a non atheletic guy or one who is below what I consider a 7 on a scale of 1 to10

3. If he doesn’t read books he better have some other redeeming quality.

4. I won’t date boys but real men (responsible, educated, stable)

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### Author: ![geewhiz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f0a364/32.png) [@geewhiz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/geewhiz)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2003, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-you-shallow-about/218537/38 "2003-12-28T21:50:06Z")

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1. Don’t date hard partiers or drinkers.

2. Will not date a non atheletic guy or one who is below what I consider a 7 on a scale of 1 to10

3. If he doesn’t read books he better have some other redeeming quality.

4. I won’t date boys but real men (responsible, educated, stable)

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### Author: ![geewhiz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f0a364/32.png) [@geewhiz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/geewhiz)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2003, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-you-shallow-about/218537/39 "2003-12-28T21:55:44Z")

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Oh and another thing, I do date alot.

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### Author: ![\_ceQueen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/b9bd4f/32.png) [@\_ceQueen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/_ceQueen)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2003, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-you-shallow-about/218537/40 "2003-12-28T22:03:16Z")

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Astrology.

I won’t date Scorpios, Tauruses and probably Cancers.

Sorry.

Or maybe, it’s a “you’ll thank me later.”

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