# What are your electric vehicle plans? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [October 22, 2020, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-electric-vehicle-plans/923614 "2020-10-22T18:45:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 52
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2023, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-electric-vehicle-plans/923614/1046 "2023-06-27T19:23:43Z")
Volvo now on board with NACS: > **[Electric Volvo car drivers will get access to 12,000 Tesla Superchargers...](https://www.media.volvocars.com/global/en-gb/media/pressreleases/316416/electric-volvo-car-drivers-will-get-access-to-12000-tesla-superchargers-across-the-united-states-can)** > > As part of Volvo Cars’ aim to be a fully electric car maker by 2030, the company is the first European car maker to sign an agreement with Tesla, giving current and future electric Volvo car drivers access to Tesla’s vast Supercharger network across... And it looks like it’ll become an SAE standard in short order: > **[Tesla charging technology put on fast track to become US standard](https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-charging-technology-put-fast-track-become-us-industry-standard-2023-06-27/?utm_source=reddit.com)** > > Tesla's electric-vehicle charging technology is being put on a fast track to become a North American standard, giving a further boost to the automaker's plan to expand access to its once-exclusive chargers. > SAE International aims to make an industry standard configuration of Tesla’s charging connector in six months or less, an official at the standards organization said on Tuesday. ---
**Author:** ![echoreply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/echoreply/32/3641_2.png) [@echoreply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/echoreply)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2023, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-electric-vehicle-plans/923614/1047 "2023-06-27T20:31:01Z")
ChargePoint just announced that they are making NACS connectors an available option on new stations, and a field upgradable option on existing stations. > **[ChargePoint Will Soon Offer NACS Connector Options for Its Charging Solutions...](https://www.chargepoint.com/about/news/chargepoint-will-soon-offer-nacs-connector-options-its-charging-solutions)** Somewhat related, my university just installed several ChargePoint DC fast chargers in my parking lot. They’re for use by their electric transit busses, and I’m assuming are not available to the public, but next time I’m in the office I’ll have to walk over and poke at them. ---
**Author:** ![WildaBeast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wildabeast/32/6_2.png) [@WildaBeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildaBeast)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2023, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-electric-vehicle-plans/923614/1048 "2023-06-27T21:49:37Z")
> [@Dr.Strangelove](#): > > Volvo now on board with NACS The press release doesn’t mention whether that includes Polestar, which is sort of Volvo but not exactly Volvo. Since it only mentions actual Volvo models, I’m assuming it doesn’t. If I had to buy an EV tomorrow the Polestar 2 would be my first choice, so I hope they get onboard with NACS as well. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2023, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-electric-vehicle-plans/923614/1049 "2023-06-27T21:53:55Z")
I’m sure we’ll find out in short order. My understanding is that Volvo and Polestar share the same platform and are built in the same factory, so supporting both is as easy as supporting one. It’s basically just a political decision on the part of Geely. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-electric-vehicle-plans/923614/1050 "2023-06-28T02:33:34Z")
> [@echoreply](#): > > ChargePoint just announced that they are making NACS connectors an available option on new stations, and a field upgradable option on existing stations. i wish they’d come up with a different naming convention. I swear I have to google (every time) NACS, CCS1, CHAdeMO and J1772. Even now, I couldn’t tell you which one I use on my iPace. I could look it up I guess. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-electric-vehicle-plans/923614/1051 "2023-06-28T05:38:48Z")
Ooh, i was not aware of them, but that looks great. ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-electric-vehicle-plans/923614/1052 "2023-06-28T19:54:00Z")
> [@Dr.Strangelove](#): > > They already have your name, address, VIN, etc. on file for recall purposes. If you bought the car new; not if you bought it as a used car from either a private party or a non-Ford place. If I buy your used car & you forget to cxl your account then I’m guessing I’d get free fillups, billed to you as it still knows you as the owner of that vehicle/VIN. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2023, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-electric-vehicle-plans/923614/1053 "2023-06-29T18:28:39Z")
> [@WildaBeast](#): > > I hope they get onboard with NACS as well. I wasn’t expecting it to take long, and it didn’t: > **[Polestar will adopt North American Charging Standard to enable access to...](https://media.polestar.com/us/en/media/pressreleases/669136)** > > Polestar has signed an agreement with Tesla to adopt the new North American Charging Standard (NACS) which will enable access to Tesla’s expansive Supercharger network for all Polestar drivers in the United States and Canada. I vaguely wonder if “the deal” is getting slightly worse over time, as an incentive for the remainder to sign up quickly. It doesn’t really seem like something Tesla would do, but the sheer rate at which companies have signed on to NACS after Ford made the announcement is interesting to me. ---
**Author:** ![echoreply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/echoreply/32/3641_2.png) [@echoreply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/echoreply)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2023, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-electric-vehicle-plans/923614/1054 "2023-06-29T20:53:19Z")
> [@Dr.Strangelove](#): > > the sheer rate at which companies have signed on to NACS after Ford made the announcement is interesting to me. Floodgates. Electrify American and Blink announced their plan to add NACS to their chargers. With those two, that’s the five largest charging networks in the US will have NACS in the next few years. Some electric motorcycle company I never heard of, Verge, is also going use NACS. Hopefully the smaller size of the NACS plug will mean more electric motorcycles start supporting DC fast charging. ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2023, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-electric-vehicle-plans/923614/1055 "2023-07-01T03:09:52Z")
I kinda hope that the good ol 220v slow-overnight-plug will not fall out of fashion, as that is my gameplan with PV-panels up a carport… (yes, I do drive rather few km x week) ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2023, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-electric-vehicle-plans/923614/1056 "2023-07-01T03:24:56Z")
> [@Al128](#): > > I kinda hope that the good ol 220v slow-overnight-plug will not fall out of fashion Pretty sure this is going to become the norm for anyone with off-street parking. Fast-charge formats only matter for road trips, and probably for people without off-street parking. At home it makes no difference what sort of connector you’re using. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2023, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-electric-vehicle-plans/923614/1057 "2023-07-01T03:39:29Z")
J1772 is the slow-charging part of the CCS connector (which adds two large DC pins). It’s common for level 2 charging systems, and can be converted to/from NACS with a small, passive adapter. It’s still a worse connector than NACS, but it’s not as terrible as CCS, and lots of people will just use a converter. The plugs are cheap anyway. The Tesla mobile charger does up to 32 amps, and the other end can plug into a variety of 120v or 240v receptacles. Costs about $200, plus $40 if you need a different plug type. Without checking, I suspect most vehicle models will be the same. The plug adapter is fine for most people, and if they have higher charging needs, they can get a hard-wired wall model. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2023, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-electric-vehicle-plans/923614/1058 "2023-07-03T19:57:01Z")
So my current hardwired home 220 charger? Future ev compatible? Or will there only be cars with Tesla style ports? ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2023, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-electric-vehicle-plans/923614/1059 "2023-07-03T20:16:02Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > So my current hardwired home 220 charger? Future ev compatible? We have an adapter that easily allows us to switch from Tesla to non-Tesla charging. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2023, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-electric-vehicle-plans/923614/1060 "2023-07-03T21:24:08Z")
Does it work both ways? Non Tesla to Tesla port as well as the reverse on home charger? Annoying to have to get two adapters for our dual charger system. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2023, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-electric-vehicle-plans/923614/1061 "2023-07-03T21:40:03Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > Does it work both ways? Non Tesla to Tesla port as well as the reverse on home charger? We have the non-tesla standard L2 charger in our garage. We slip on a little adapter when we charge the Tesla. It’s as easy as putting a cap on a pen. If you had a Tesla charger at home and wanted to charge a non-Tesla EV, you could get the other kind of adapter. [adapter for tesla charger to j1772 - Bing - Shopping](https://www.bing.com/shop?q=adapter+for+tesla+charger+to+j1772&FORM=SHOPPA&originIGUID=A5B534F757AC4F1F99603D534F3A6EBC) ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2023, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-electric-vehicle-plans/923614/1062 "2023-07-03T22:12:00Z")
So I would buy adapters that would allow my current hard wired chargers to attach to a Tesla style port in a new EV, say a Polestar or one of the to come smaller Rivians …? ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2023, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-electric-vehicle-plans/923614/1063 "2023-07-03T22:29:12Z")
Yeah, one of these: > **[SAE J1772 Charging Adapter](https://shop.tesla.com/product/sae-j1772-charging-adapter)** > > The J1772 Adapter is included with every Tesla vehicle delivery. Compatible with most Level 2 public charging stations, the J1772 Adapter supports charging speeds up to 19.2kW. Includes: 1x SAE J1772 Charging Adapter Note: Compatible with all Tesla... It’s cheap and light. If all your future cars use NACS, you can just leave it attached to the charger permanently. Otherwise, you can pop it on and off as needed. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2023, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-electric-vehicle-plans/923614/1064 "2023-07-03T22:37:56Z")
> [@Dr.Strangelove](#): > > It’s cheap and light Yeah, we have two. One stays at home and one stays in the car in case of emergency. Seatac airport parking garage chargers, for example, need an adapter for Teslas. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-electric-vehicle-plans/923614/1065 "2023-07-05T14:36:55Z")
Because of a number of issues, I need to put in a new leach/septic field and tank. Which code is going to require a pump in. That means I’m going to need to update my electric breaker panel. It’s out of room. So… while I have no near future plans to buy an electric car, as long as I’m getting the electric done, I’m going to try to get things set so there is a 220v outlet for it. That’s gonna be a trick since we do not have a garage and get a lot of snow. This will probably make our house a little more valuable. Brand new septic system will for sure. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-electric-vehicle-plans/923614.md?page=51) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-electric-vehicle-plans/923614.md?page=53)