# What are your electric vehicle plans? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [October 22, 2020, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-electric-vehicle-plans/923614 "2020-10-22T18:45:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 98
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2025, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-electric-vehicle-plans/923614/1966 "2025-05-07T19:27:38Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > I can recommend an Ionic 5 Thanks. I’ll check it out. ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2025, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-electric-vehicle-plans/923614/1967 "2025-05-09T08:57:04Z")
I want that adapter. The one thing I did like about the Tesla I rented was the ease of charging. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2025, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-electric-vehicle-plans/923614/1968 "2025-05-09T17:48:57Z")
Okay, Jaguar is telling me I can get $10,000 of the MSRP on a new iPace if I finance the vehicle (which I don’t need or want to do). Of course, they say “don’t worry about it, just pay it off right away.” Seems like a pain in the ass, as I’d have to unfreeze my credit reports, and it would delay getting the title (I guess that doesn’t matter). However, they insist that the incentive is funded (and only available) through Chase/Jaguar Financial. $10,000 is a fair chuck of money. Should I just agree, or am I missing something? ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2025, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-electric-vehicle-plans/923614/1969 "2025-05-09T17:53:03Z")
There are/were a lot of incentives for EVs/PHEVs that danced around the word “buy” and similar legalese especially for ones not made in the USA. When we got our Rav4 Prime, there were approximately $12k in incentives for _leasing_ (state and federal) but almost none for financing and/or buying outright. So we leased for 6 months, then paid it off. Some minor cost increases, and probably 4-8 hours of total additional work faffing around with the leasing company and the dealer to say “No, really, take this money and close the account!” but worth $12k. I’d argue worth 10k for you, but you’d have the additional freezing / unfreezing and frustration. Only you know how much that’s worth! ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2025, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-electric-vehicle-plans/923614/1970 "2025-05-09T17:54:05Z")
Is the $10K off a new iPace what they are offering in exchange to “buy back” your current iPace? ---
**Author:** ![Surfing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5fc32e/32.png) [@Surfing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Surfing)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2025, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-electric-vehicle-plans/923614/1971 "2025-05-09T17:54:46Z")
In my experience there is usually some fine print like “finance through us AND make at least x number of payments” in order to get the discount. The interest on the required payments is usually more than the discount. ---
**Author:** ![Surfing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5fc32e/32.png) [@Surfing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Surfing)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2025, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-electric-vehicle-plans/923614/1972 "2025-05-09T17:55:52Z")
In my experience there is usually some fine print like “finance through us AND make at least x number of payments” in order to get the discount. The interest on the required payments is usually more than the discount. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2025, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-electric-vehicle-plans/923614/1973 "2025-05-09T18:00:08Z")
> [@Surfing](#): > > In my experience there is usually some fine print like “finance through us AND make at least x number of payments” in order to get the discount. I’ll look for that. > [@wguy123](#): > > Is the $10K off a new iPace what they are offering in exchange to “buy back” your current iPace? Yes, $10k off a new one. Still waiting for the official offer on the buy back. I told them I expected more than blue book value, and they said, “we’ll talk after we make our offer.” ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2025, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-electric-vehicle-plans/923614/1974 "2025-05-09T18:17:12Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Should I just agree, or am I missing something? I did this a year ago on an EV. It was $15k in my case and that much money was worth the minimal hassle. Just make sure there’s no early payment fee or whatever. Otherwise, there will likely be some kind of rigamarole because you are, in effect, purchasing a used car (albeit, used only by you, under the lease). I held off a few weeks, which was enough time that the plates had come in, and they had to order a new set of plates (new owner - new plates). Also, at least in Texas, registration on a new car is 2 years, but since I was buying “used”, the new registration under my name was only good for 1 year from the month of purchase. So, that was an extra $400 a year later for the EV registration renewal fees when it would have been covered through this year otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2025, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-electric-vehicle-plans/923614/1975 "2025-05-09T18:17:49Z")
> [@Surfing](#): > > In my experience there is usually some fine print like “finance through us AND make at least x number of payments” in order to get the discount. The interest on the required payments is usually more than the discount. This was not my experience. It was more like what @ParallelLines reported. We leased our Kona and paid it off after a week with no minimum number of payments and trivial interest. I think it comes down to the EV credit being worth more to them than it is to an individual for some reason, plus some incentives from the manufacturer to the dealer based on how many leases they sell. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2025, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-electric-vehicle-plans/923614/1976 "2025-05-11T19:45:26Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > I got a free adapter when I got my Ford EV. Took about 3 months to get shipped to me. I have yet to charge anywhere other than my house, but it’s nice to know I can use a Supercharger if I need to. > [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > You need to get an account with the appropriate Tesla App. Most chargers have at least some kind of panel with buttons and/or a touch screen. Tesla chargers are just a menhir with a cable, so you need to set up the Tesla app on your phone before you can use one. Also, the cable is very short, causing some EVs to have to park improperly. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2025, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-electric-vehicle-plans/923614/1977 "2025-05-11T23:26:08Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > menhir A what? ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2025, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-electric-vehicle-plans/923614/1978 "2025-05-11T23:29:36Z")
[![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/Kerloas_menhir.JPG/250px-Kerloas_menhir.JPG) ](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/Kerloas_menhir.JPG/250px-Kerloas_menhir.JPG) > **[Menhir](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menhir)** > > A menhir (/ˈmɛnhɪər/; from Brittonic languages: maen or men, "stone" and hir or hîr, "long"), standing stone, orthostat, or lith is a large upright stone, emplaced in the ground by humans, typically dating from the European middle Bronze Age. They can be found individually as monoliths, or as part of a group of similar stones. Menhirs' size can vary considerably, but they often taper toward the top. > Menhirs are found across Europe, Africa, and Asia, with a concentration in Western Europe, not... ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2025, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-electric-vehicle-plans/923614/1979 "2025-05-11T23:32:22Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Tesla chargers are just a menhir with a cable, so you need to set up the Tesla app on your phone before you can use one My plan for when I’m ready to take my EV on a longer trip, is to use a local L3 Charger (tesla or otherwise) once or twice before going. If for no other reason, so I can make sure my account is set up and working and I’ve got everything else figured out before I’m there. If I’m going to have to spend 10 minutes trying to set up an account on my phone, I’d rather do it at home. ---
**Author:** ![echoreply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/echoreply/32/3641_2.png) [@echoreply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/echoreply)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-electric-vehicle-plans/923614/1980 "2025-05-12T01:01:06Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > My plan for when I’m ready to take my EV on a longer trip, is to use a local L3 Charger I received 1000 miles of free level 3 charging as a Tesla referral bonus. That was worth about $40 of home charging, so kind of offensive as a bonus for referring someone who spent $100k. However it did give me an excuse to play with a local supercharger to get comfortable with the process. That really didn’t take 1000 miles, but that many miles did let me take it from “comfortable” to “boring,” which is a nice place to be for what should be a routine and mundane task. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-electric-vehicle-plans/923614/1981 "2025-05-12T01:24:20Z")
> [@echoreply](#): > > I received 1000 miles of free level 3 charging as a Tesla referral bonus. That was worth about $40 of home charging, Not where I live. lol. But still kind of chintzy. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-electric-vehicle-plans/923614/1982 "2025-05-12T17:55:47Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > This was not my experience. It was more like what @ParallelLines reported. > > We leased our Kona and paid it off after a week with no minimum number of payments and trivial interest. I think it comes down to the EV credit being worth more to them than it is to an individual for some reason, plus some incentives from the manufacturer to the dealer based on how many leases they sell. Same here. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-electric-vehicle-plans/923614/1983 "2025-05-12T18:01:32Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Not where I live. lol. But still kind of chintzy. It’s about $32 worth of charging at my house. But at some of the Superchargers we’ve hit, it’s worth a lot more! I think I paid $0.40/kWh at one of them near Seattle, WA, so that would be over $100 there, but still chintzy compared to the current $250 referral fee I see on the app. Just give me the money. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-electric-vehicle-plans/923614/1984 "2025-05-12T18:14:54Z")
0.41 would be the low end of superchargers around here. Our normal home rates for time of day plans range from 0.26 to 0.43. Unless you own an EV and get special rates which are 0.18 to 0.28. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-electric-vehicle-plans/923614/1985 "2025-05-12T18:20:06Z")
_insert spit take gif here_ Where is here? Yikes! We are at 0.09 for the first 800 kWh, then it jumps to nearly 0.11 for the rest. Time of day doesn’t matter even though I think they are going to start piloting a “pay less at night” plan. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-electric-vehicle-plans/923614.md?page=97) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-electric-vehicle-plans/923614.md?page=99)