In my AWD Electric vehicle thread I mentioned getting a quote for a level 2 charger installation similar to what you seem to want (my wife’s commute is roughly 50 miles per day, so we would need the faster charging) - a professional installation for 240 and the charger was roughly $1600 USD in Colorado. But… and it has currently stopped our plans, our electrical system is far too out of date to safely handle it, so they wanted to do a full panel replacement in conjunction, with a total price of about $8000 USD.
Your area, costs, etc will likely vary, but that might give you an idea of the costs.
This squares with my expectations. My panel was updated fully to code around fifteen years ago so I may be in luck but the over the phone guestimate was $7k if a new panel was needed.
Anyway, I will get my car Tuesday afternoon if I can get the funding squared away, if not, Wednesday.
So, a little searching says that you can probably run 20A 220V over regular 12-2 Romex such as would be used in a typical 110v garage outlet. Paging @Bob_Blaylock … Our Lyriq only charges at 30A with the native charger anyway. That would be the cost of a new breaker and NEMA50 outlet…
As others have said, you might find that charging off 110 is fine, especially with the supercharger so close, for special occasions.
A friend is installing a 220 outlet in their garage, and it is going to end up being about $10k with a new panel. The old panel is full, and only rated for 100 amps. Fortunately the cable from the utility is capable of 200 amps. so no upgrade necessary there, so they’re getting a new panel upgraded to 150 amps (don’t ask me) with plenty of new slots.
The panel is also on the opposite side of the house from the garage, so they’re going to run conduit to the garage. As long as they’re doing that, they’ll also add additional 15 (or 20?) amp circuits to the garage.
There are currently some federal tax rebates for installing a charger, and depending on where you live there might also be state and utility based rebates. That won’t make it free, but might be enough to change your decision point.
I thought garage outlets are supposed to be 20A, so 12-2? But yeah, if you need 12-3 for 220V that won’t work (unless you combine the feeds to 2 outlets…). 20A 220V is a nice bump from 110V if you can do it on the cheap.
There are but I haven’t looked into it yet. The electrician may know about them. I will get $1000 from the County of Santa Barbara for buying a qualified EV
As far as I know, household receptacles are nearly always 15 amps. 20-amp receptacles are more common in commercial settings, and are recognizable by an extra horizontal slot on the neutral side.
A 20amp device will have a plug with one prong rotated 90 degrees so you can’t plug it into a regular 15a outlet. However, you can still plug a 15a device with a 15a plug into it.
ALL of my garage receptacles are 20A. It’s a big garage/shop–31’x48’, so maybe my sparky went big. I wouldn’t spec 14-2 to any garage, myself. I asked for 30A 110v but was denied.
I’m reposting this question since Sam derailed the thread the last time I asked so I never really got an answer, plus, I’m due for a new car in the next few months:
Getting back to EV plans…I’ll be in the market for a new car this summer. When I got my current EV, during the chip shortage, Teslas had something like a year lead time. Checking today, it’s more like a month.
As I was looking at their website, I noticed something I missed in the past, a lot of their cars are rear wheel drive.
Does anyone have an experience with these in the snow?
I understand the weight is distributed differently than it is in something with an engine in the front but I have to guess it’s still going to fishtail more than a FWD/AWD/4WD vehicle.
Some cursory searches on google says it handles really well in the snow as long as you get a good set of snow tires.
Snow tires would (almost certainly) be a deal breaker for me. I’ve got no interest in swapping tires twice a year.
Sorta. Standard range models are all RWD. Long range/performance models are all AWD. (Early models are an exception: I have a long-range RWD model from 2018)
Can’t tell you much about their snow handling, except to point out that AWD does absolutely nothing for stopping performance. If you’re really driving in snow where traction is an issue, you need snow tires, regardless of RWD/AWD.
I ordered mine on Saturday March 2nd and picked it up on Tuesday March 5th. I got the Model Y Long Rage (4WD) in gray which is the most common model though.
We had a lot of talk about snow conditions in my AWD electric thread, but mostly that a Front Wheel drive with snow tires was enough for @telemark - I don’t think anyone spoke specifically about RWD (it was an AWD thread primarily after all!)
I’ve been driving in Wisconsin winters for almost 30 years so I’m aware of how to stop in the snow, my issue is how to go. I spent a lot of those early years fishtailing with RWD vehicles (and mostly cargo vans with little to no weight over the rear axle). At the moment, if I go with Tesla, it’ll probably have to be an AWD version.
FWD would be fine. My current EV is front wheel drive and even with the junk tires they put on it, it’s still better than RWD. I’d rather spin my tires than slide into the wrong lane.
So we’re 2 months into our ownership of the Cadillac Lyriq. It’s pretty awesome. Highs include comfort, level of tech vs physical controls and styling. Physical controls include HVAC, seats, turn signals, gear shift (as it were), air vents, and a central controller where you can manipulate the screens on the dash. It all works well. Downsides? INSANELY loud chirps for various functions, like charging. Decreased range with very aggressive snow tires (Nokian Hakka 10s with studs). It definitely throttles power off the line, which is not a bad thing with studded snows. But, this is a 500hp EV, and while it’s 0-60 is 4.5 seconds, that does pale compared. But it’s honestly plenty. Pretty sweet car for $65k OTD.
