The new Chevy Equinox EV and the upcoming Bolt reintroduction are very reasonable priced and are receiving good reviews. Our Lyriq, while not cheap by any means, is a serious luxury/performance car and costs =/- $.05/mile in electricity. 65k out the door for a luxury 500HP AWD wagon? If you cross-shopped that with the European brands it would be waaayyyy more .
What the heck just happened to the formatting?
It got Discoursed.
It’s happened to me but I cannot remember why…something about creating math formulas perhaps.
I believe it’s related to MathJax or the like that’s integrated. Sometimes if you have multiple $ nearby it seems to trigger it.
To keep this on topic for the thread, I’ll use a strained analogy. The formatting rules are similar to moving from an ICE car to an EV. You do have to learn some new things, and change some habits. They are not particularly difficult, and if you actually use them on a daily basis you’ll be just as comfortable with one pedal driving as escaping $s.
MathJax math mode is entered by bounding things in $ symbols, so $x+1=5$ produces x+1=5. The system has some heuristics so you’re not entering math mode all the time. For example a $ followed immediately by a character does not go into math mode, $12. $ directly following a character or alone assumes the previous $ was meant to start math mode: $12 plus $ tax becomes 12 plus tax, so dangling $ are usually the culprit.
If you want to use a $ without going into math mode, put a \ in front of it: $12 plus \$ tax becomes $12 plus $ tax.
Quick fix: if your text is all math italics without spaces, put a \ in front of the $s you’re using.
That is way more than I had to learn to drive our new EV with one-pedal enabled! 
Why (are you stating that - because Discorse needs more chara)?
For me it’s a few things: the power, the quietness, the lack of shifting, and not going to the gas station. My truck is ostensibly 395HP and I used to think it had great torque. Now I ask myself why it’s getting LOUDER but not FASTER?!? As I said above, to what do you compare this $65,000 500HP AWD luxury wagon? Audi SQ7? Slower, smaller, shitty mileage, short warranty. Tesla Model Y? The Caddy is much more luxurious, not a blob, physical controls. And we have a local dealer for support if needed.
Because basing the decision on just purchase price and gas savings leaves out a lot of other relevant factors. Other areas for saving money, and the fact you’re getting a better car
The fact? Seriously?
We drove to Michigan this summer and it was 75 mph on the interstates there.
On a lot of highways, even ones with a posted limit of 70 or lower, someone going 80 will be viewed as a slowpoke. Well, maybe not SLOW, but it’s not at all unusual for a lot of drivers to go that fast, if conditions permit.
This week I purchased what I believe will be the last ICE vehicle I’ll ever own. I bought a Ram 1500 TRX to go with my Charger Hellcat Redeye. I think I’ll keep these until a museum wants them. I’m guessing I will buy my first electric vehicle in about 3 years when my wife will be ready for a new car.
I-15 from the Cajon Pass to Las Vegas (and beyond.) 80 mph is the slow lane. Have to get to Excalibur before they run out of rubber shrimp at the buffet.
Un-fucking-believable race! Not many of us are in the market for either of these cars, but as Jonathan says about the Lucid at the end–“This is the future.” A five person 4-door sedan that mops the floor with McLarens and Porsche Turbos.
One for @Bear_Nenno : Lucid vs. Dodge Demon 170: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE20h6v0fSQ
Enjoy!
I’ve likely said it here before, but I’m really hoping our next car will be, at a minimum, a PHEV. I really wanted one, when we got our current car 4 years ago, but there were basically no SUVs on the market at that point. Pity, as the vast majority of our driving would be using the battery. We didn’t want fully-electric at that point because even just 4 years ago, I was concerned over charging while travelling (I imagine it’s gotten better since then). We wound up getting a CRV hybrid (first year on the market, which made me nervous, but it’s been fine).
If we were buying a SECOND car right now, I’d be willing to go for all electric, since we have the CRV if we’re going on a road trip. But as we age, we have to be careful to get vehicles that we’ll be able to get into/out of - our ancient Civic (22 years, 240K miles) had become a challenge for me since it was so low to the ground. So I’d need to look very carefully at how accessible any all-electric options might be.
Our daughter would love to get an EV, but she lives in Vermont (I gather they don’t do quite as well in really cold weather), AND she has no place to charge one at her apartment. I’m afraid she’ll be driving an ICE soon.
This has been a bit of a revelation for me in recent years as I’ve watched my aging parents try to slowly and laboriously squeeze into my car. I’ve always scoffed at crossovers and the like (“get a truck if you need a truck!”) and figured I’d just be a boring 4-door midsize sedan guy for life. But it never occurred me that decreasing flexibility with age would start making getting into one a struggle at some point.
One more compromise for age - sigh.
My in-laws (well, MIL only now) had a lot of trouble getting into our CRV because it requires lifting the feet a fair bit (the floor has a bit of a lip at the edge, that you have to get your feet over) , and they were/are on the shorter side. They had much less trouble getting into a sedan. We took to keeping a stepstool in the car if we were going to transport them - yes, they had to step up on that, but it was easier than the tripping hazard.
A basic sedan (e.g. a Honda Accord) would have been about the lowest vehicle I could comfortably get out of, these days, and the CRV is definitely easier - but at my age, I can see that lifting the feet to get in might be a problem in a few years. It’s an odd design decision on the part of Honda.
We once rented a Chevy Equinox which had the same benefit of height, and did NOT have the lip - this is definitely something we’ll keep in mind, next time we buy a vehicle. Someone on the boards once suggested “why not a minivan??” - and it’s a darn good suggestion; no lip problem, same height benefit.
Hopefully it’ll be a few years before we NEED to buy another car - our older CRV is 18 years old and has about 180K miles though, so… Minivans also cost more than the SUVs. But hopefully there will be options re PHEV or electric when the time comes.
I prefer the higher riding height of a smaller SUV like a RAV4 or a CRV, so that’s probably going to be my next vehicle.
My kid got sent to the far rental lot at LAX, and the only car there at midnight was an electric SUV.
It had 15% of charge, and it took him forever to figure out how to even start it, let alone drive it and find a specific charger late at night.
I think it’ll be a lonnng time before the kid buys an electric car.
I don’t drive our 2012 Subaru Forester much these days, but when I do, I’m surprised at how low it is compared to our Tesla MY. MY is higher and definitely easier to get into. Not sure how the Forester compares to a RAV4 or CRV…