I looked, and over 62 months of records I’ve spent an average of $32/month extra in electricity at home for charging the car. Of about 22,000 kWh used, 18,000 kWh have come from home charging, so that doesn’t represent my complete cost of energy, just how much my electric bill has changed.
To put it in a different perspective, which might closer represent the comparison of a truck versus EV. In 2024 I’ve put about 12,000 miles on the EV, at a cost of about $300 in home charging. I’ve put about 1,200 miles on my Suburban at a cost of about $300 in gas.
The view is better being up high in the twuck, & it probably has more amenities in it, too.
At 30mpg (except for the WRX most should be Subies should be close to that number) that’s 40 gal of gas, which would cost $7.50/gal. Is your math right? Gas is < $3/gal in multiple states here
Yeah, it is mostly short trips in town, so I get about 13. Best ever was 18mpg, but that was going down the west side of the Rockies from Steamboat to Vernal.
Put a small block LS in your WRX, and see what kind of mileage you get. Oh yeah, also add a third row of seating.
no frills smallish car for city-driving … they are around $16k here now (came down from 20k last year) … I hope they keep coming down some more and at the same time bump up the battery a bit over the next 1-3 years …
We have a fairly newish ICE-SUV that it would compliment nicely in covering all overall driving situations.
Parking lots must be more spacious where you live. I have a Subaru Forester, and miss my old Civic when I’m shopping. The Forester has more amenities, but i rarely use them. Heated seats? Nice to know.
Welcome to the group! I’ve got my greenie EV (Mach E) and my Earth-destroying body-on-frame, Earth-destroying ICE truck. They have different use cases, just like a normal family that has a tiny ICE and a large ICE. Actually, my EV is my second EV, and it will be replaced with my third EV in a few months – I’m addicted. For non-ICE-truck use cases, my Mach E’s have been the best cars I’ve ever had in my life of lots and lots and lots of vehicles.
Earlier this year I finally moved to a place with at-home charging available. And began to look seriously at an EV. Then bought an ICE that should be good for at least 3 and maybe 6 more years.
I drive little enough that the cost of operation is immaterial. Definitely the delta between ICE & EV energy cost is dwarfed by purchase and insurance costs in either case.
They simply don’t make an EV for the mission I wanted: two door sports car / GT, ideally convertible. And it appears that soon they’ll stop making those in ICE too. And instead sell yet another 4-door hardtop EV sedan with a swoopier body and call it a GT. Sigh. Progress.
I would prefer an EV over an ICE. But not at the expense of the overall body style / mission.
OTOH, in 6 years I may have enough orthopedic issues to want a geezer-mobile = luxo mini SUV. Which will be available as an EV from nearly every manufacturer on every continent. But I sure hope to not be in that boat (mobile).
GT is one of the higher end Mustang (EV and ICE) trim packages. If you google Mustang GT, you’ll get more results. I’m assuming that’s what’s being talked about.
In more detail, GT is a category of car that’s high performance, but also comfortable to luxurious. Classically GTs were always two-door, but some now are 4-door with better-than-vestigial back seats. Conversely, a classic “sports car” is very low frills: 2 doors, 2 seats, small, nimble, and rough. More pleasant to drive than a true race car, but not much. They’re all about performance, actively disdaining creature comforts.
These terms had very distinct meanings back in the 1960s-1990s when I was forming my automotive vocabulary & preferences. Every car of every type has become more refined since then and a nicely appointed 2024 sports car overlaps lots with the classic GT role.
Among current production cars, a Corvette is a sports car. So are most of the Ferrari line or at the less expensive end, a Mazda Miata. GTs are something more like the Jaguar F-type or BMW M8 or Mercedes CLEs. The Porsche 911 is a sports car. The larger Porsches are mostly GTs except for the SUVs.
In a lot of ways the GT category is fast disappearing. Squeezed between the ever more refined-to-luxurious sports cars and the ever more performant “luxury sports sedans”, some of which have 2-door variants. BMW 4-series, Porsche Taycan, Cadillac CT5, Lexus LS, etc.
There is no Mustang that could ever be a GT no matter how much leather they add to the interior. They certainly sell lots of them with that label on the trunk though.
What I “need” is 2 doors, convertible top, panache, and performance. The car I bought has all that. Two seats or 4 doesn’t greatly matter, as long as it isn’t a full-up sedan.
Mine also has 2 back seats, albeit a bit undersized. Which are plenty usable for slender people of college-aged spryness, but not for basketball players, the inflexible, nor the obese. I can use them easily enough despite my years, but I’m small, slender, and spry(-ish ) .
The real use of those seats is to provide a place to put groceries and other purchases. Or the luggage of my traveling partner when the smallish trunk is already full of my own. A true two-seater is real limiting and I don’t have a place to park a second larger car.
So… What’s the difference between a two door and a four door, other than that it’s awkward to reach the back seats in a two door?
Serious question. I assume that at some point in the distant past, it was enough cheaper to only have two doors that some people preferred that. But I’ve never understood the appeal of two doors as a feature in it’s own right
It’s purely stylistic. A 4-door 4-seat car (“sedan”) is for fuddy duddies, or people with kids. A two-door with vestigial back seats (“2+2 seating”) is for people unhindered by kids or an excessive sense of practicality. A two-door with no back seats is for a single person living the good life, and living it hard. As you suggest, a 2-door with full-sized back seats is pretty much a mystery to me.
The rise of SUVs and family wagons has sort of blurred the social meaning of sedans. As those other types have become the kid haulers, and some car companies now make pretty sporty snazzy sedans, the sedan style is moving from boring fuddy-mobiles to the multi-use car for practical-but-still-fun people.
All this is one guy’s semi old-fart take on the sociology of car body styles. YMMV.
On a related note: the first EV I drove (the Ford c-max, which is technically a PHEV, but we mostly drove it in EV mode) had an incredibly sporty drive, because the electric motor was so responsive. Tesla certainly leaned into “this is sporty” to build their image. But now, a lot of EVs have been tuned to feel like ICE cars. I don’t get it. The c-max was in many ways a practical, boring car, but it was really fun to drive. Why aren’t they all fun to drive?
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