# What are your hopes for a Biden Presidency?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-hopes-for-a-biden-presidency/924907>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [November 6, 2020, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-hopes-for-a-biden-presidency/924907 "2020-11-06T17:37:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-hopes-for-a-biden-presidency/924907/21 "2020-11-07T03:37:05Z")

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Do you realize that for the first time ever, the US has just gone four years without firing a single shot in an ongoing overseas theatre of tactical operations? What are the chances we can keep that up?

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-hopes-for-a-biden-presidency/924907/22 "2020-11-07T03:37:29Z")

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> [@jtur88](#):
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> Do you realize that for the first time ever, the US has just gone four years without firing a single shot in an ongoing overseas theatre of tactical operations? What are the chances we can keep that up?

There have been plenty of shots fired. Syria, etc. The killing of al-Baghdadi. The Battle of Khasham, where American and Kurdish forces killed or wounded 400+ Russian and Syrian troops.

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-hopes-for-a-biden-presidency/924907/23 "2020-11-07T03:43:03Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> I hope he won’t be too pro-China (he’s made his views on China well known before, such as telling Taiwanese officials that Taiwan needed to submit and become part of China.)

What are you talking about?

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-hopes-for-a-biden-presidency/924907/24 "2020-11-07T03:48:36Z")

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> [@flurb](#):
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> What are you talking about?

Article is [here](http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2001/09/12/102583?fbclid=IwAR3DKi8VXlTA317KUYxZD1vRYVZTkQj-rjIdEhqm1qXKvmoWJkCno0DBPLI).

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-hopes-for-a-biden-presidency/924907/25 "2020-11-07T03:57:58Z")

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C’mon, that’s a pretty glib interpretation to say that he told Taiwan they need to “submit and become a part of China.” Based on the article he was opposing a unilateral Taiwan declaration of independence, which would have violated the “One China” policy which had been the acknowledged position of the U.S., PRC _and_ the ROC for decades.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-hopes-for-a-biden-presidency/924907/26 "2020-11-07T04:04:02Z")

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Errr, not quite. His words included the following: _“We’ve agreed that you are going to be part of China and that you will work it out.”_

In his defense, that was 19 years ago, and his views may have changed since. But it definitely went further than merely saying “don’t declare independence.”

At any rate, it gives an idea of where Biden stands (or stood) on the matter.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-hopes-for-a-biden-presidency/924907/27 "2020-11-07T04:29:24Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> In his defense, that was 19 years ago, and his views may have changed since.-

I hope he is capable of changing his opinions.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 9:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-hopes-for-a-biden-presidency/924907/28 "2020-11-07T09:30:01Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> We’ve agreed that you are going to be part of China and that you will work it out.”

Where do you see “submit” in there?

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**Author:** ![FairyChatMom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fairychatmom/32/21906_2.png) [@FairyChatMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FairyChatMom)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-hopes-for-a-biden-presidency/924907/29 "2020-11-07T11:25:02Z")

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I’d love to see him talk a little sense into McConnell. I don’t hold out any hope for that, but I can dream. This whole us-vs-them idiocy putting party above country is inane and dangerous.

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**Author:** ![Uniqueorn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uniqueorn/32/2807_2.png) [@Uniqueorn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uniqueorn)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-hopes-for-a-biden-presidency/924907/30 "2020-11-07T11:54:21Z")

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Apart from hopefully outlawing golf, I think he might try to build on his previously good relationships with Republican senators in getting them on board in order to restore professionalism in the civil service and the Federal agencies.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-hopes-for-a-biden-presidency/924907/31 "2020-11-07T13:17:30Z")

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MODNOTE: You need to cite these statements or resist spreading lies, half-truths and falsehoods. Check your facts before posting for now on please.

> [@Velocity](#):
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> And let’s hope his dementia doesn’t go too far.

> [@Velocity](#):
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> such as telling Taiwanese officials that Taiwan needed to submit and become part of China.)

Meanwhile as no source shows Biden has dementia, I’m striking that part out.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-hopes-for-a-biden-presidency/924907/32 "2020-11-07T14:14:08Z")

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Thanks for nineteen year old news, Comrade.

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**Author:** ![saucywench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/85e7bf/32.png) [@saucywench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saucywench)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-hopes-for-a-biden-presidency/924907/33 "2020-11-07T15:52:36Z")

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Q - What are your hopes for a Biden presidency?

A - That he gives very few speeches.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-hopes-for-a-biden-presidency/924907/34 "2020-11-07T16:02:07Z")

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> [@Uniqueorn](#):
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> I think he might try to build on his previously good relationships with Republican senators…

> [@FairyChatMom](#):
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> I’d love to see him talk a little sense into McConnell.

If Biden can tap into long-standing good vibes with Republican Senators, maybe THEY can gang up on Unca Mitch and tell him to stop being such a horse’s ass. I can’t believe that most Senators really want to sit around obstructing the president on every little thing just because they can, while the country goes to hell.

Yeah, Mitch had to teach that uppity Black Muslim foreigner a lesson. But Joe is a plain ordinary old white guy, _just like Mitch_. Which one of Mitch’s hot buttons is Joe gonna push, FFS?

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**Author:** ![rbroome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/838e76/32.png) [@rbroome](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rbroome)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-hopes-for-a-biden-presidency/924907/35 "2020-11-07T16:53:22Z")

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I am trying to wrap my head around the fact that 70 million Americans voted for Trump. 70 million. That says a lot about America.  
Primarily it says that the Democrats aren’t addressing core concerns of almost ½ of the country. (and it says that the Republicans aren’t addressing the core concerns of more than ½ of the country). Neither side is going to win over the other. Got that. But when one side or the other goes off the rails and starts acting out and out crazy, the other side should be a safe place to go at least for a while.

For the Democrats, I believe they need to explicitly and repeatedly support and advocate for individual rights, privileges and responsibilities. Right now the Republicans do that and the Democrats are seen as the party of groups. If the Democrats can speak forcefully for the the individual AND the group, they will become the dominant or safe refuge party for all America. It won’t win them every election, that is a good thing, but it will keep the fringes at either end of the spectrum unable to control the agenda. If Republicans had been able to support individual rights with a Democratic vote, then maybe this election would not have been so close.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-hopes-for-a-biden-presidency/924907/36 "2020-11-07T17:16:07Z")

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> [@Si\_Amigo](#):
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> I hope he never personally uses twitter.

Biden, Harris and even Hillary Clinton just tweeted. Perfectly appropriate tweets in the abstract, but dear god I wish they would just issue “statements” and stay off twitter.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-hopes-for-a-biden-presidency/924907/37 "2020-11-07T17:24:33Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> dear god I wish they would just issue “statements” and stay off twitter.-

I agree 100%! It royally pisses me off that Twitter has become an official notification/policy channel. That is just wrong.

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**Author:** ![ZurBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/71e660/32.png) [@ZurBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZurBob)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-hopes-for-a-biden-presidency/924907/38 "2020-11-07T17:43:23Z")

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+1  
Amen (or whatever)

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**Author:** ![ZurBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/71e660/32.png) [@ZurBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZurBob)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-hopes-for-a-biden-presidency/924907/39 "2020-11-07T17:51:06Z")

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It will be nice to have a President who does not regurgitate every **idle** thought on social “media”.

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**Author:** ![Marine\_One](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marine_one/32/3461_2.png) [@Marine\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marine_One)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2020, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-hopes-for-a-biden-presidency/924907/40 "2020-11-07T19:28:48Z")

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I don’t want to see any big Inauguration ceremonies. No parade, balls, concerts in D.C. or anywhere. Maybe a flyover by somebody.  
Take the swearing-in, a speech and that’s it.

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