# What are your thoughts RE: Fat people in tight clothes

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-re-fat-people-in-tight-clothes/693646
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion
**Created:** [July 21, 2014, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-re-fat-people-in-tight-clothes/693646 "2014-07-21T04:59:01Z")
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### Author: ![PookahMacPhellimey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pookahmacphellimey/32/3175_2.png) [@PookahMacPhellimey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PookahMacPhellimey)
#### Post date: [July 23, 2014, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-re-fat-people-in-tight-clothes/693646/101 "2014-07-23T11:31:45Z")

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To me tight isn’t the problem, ill-fighting can be sometimes. Dress the size you are and be proud (I heart [Nadia Aboulhosn](http://www.nadiaaboulhosn.com/) for example). Don’t dress the size you think (or you feel society thinks) you ought to be. Of course if the well-fitting stuff isn’t in your budget or available, that’s another matter.

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### Author: ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)
#### Post date: [July 23, 2014, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-re-fat-people-in-tight-clothes/693646/102 "2014-07-23T13:16:53Z")

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> [@Rachellelogram](#):
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> Let’s cut through the bullshit here. It doesn’t matter to you what a fat person wears–you’re not going to respect them because they’re fat. You’re content to make fun of fat people purely by dint of their fatness, regardless of their wardrobe. There’s no reason a fat person should dress to please you, or others like you, because there _is_ no pleasing you.
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> So you know, have fun with your shitty opinion. Just don’t expect anyone else to care about it.

Co-sign. And if my husband could do something like not piss people off by his gross appearance (read: too sick to fucking care :smack:), I’m sure he’d hobble around more on the feet that he can’t walk on to make that happen. I’ll tell him to get right on that, so no one’s delicate sensibilities are offended.

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### Author: ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)
#### Post date: [July 23, 2014, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-re-fat-people-in-tight-clothes/693646/103 "2014-07-23T13:25:50Z")

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> [@MsRobyn](#):
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> Best Korea is a [meme](http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/justin-bieber-to-north-korea) for North Korea.

Oh. :smack: Never heard of that. I’ve never been to 4chan and have paid zero attention to Bieber all this time. You can miss a lot that way. I was ribbing you because, having never heard of the phrase, it looked like one of those ridiculous predictive text typos that started appearing all over the place here once everybody was posting from their telephones, inadvertently posting a completely different word from what was intended. Since B is next to N on the keyboard, I guessed you’d intended to type N for North, but accidentally hit B, and your phone took it from there.

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### Author: ![Incubus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c68b51/32.png) [@Incubus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Incubus)
#### Post date: [July 23, 2014, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-re-fat-people-in-tight-clothes/693646/104 "2014-07-23T14:28:01Z")

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> [@monstro](#):
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> This just isn’t so.
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> I had a wonderful yoga instructor a couple of years ago. She was the first who really made me dig yoga. One day I was chatting with another studio patron about this instructor. At first we were just exchanging praises for her. But then this bitch said, “The only bad thing is that [stage whisper] _she’s a little on the fat side_.”
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> It’s true that this instructor was larger than the other instructors–who are bone-skinny, some in an unhealthy looking way. She was Colombian, and had the ample booty and thighage and boobage of a woman of Indian and African extraction. But she wasn’t _fat_ fat. She didn’t have a gut. Her thighs were firm and muscular–not dimpled in the least. Her arms had a bit of softness to them, but this was a woman who could do one-handed push-ups. She was curvacious. She was thick. But fat? I don’t know about all that.
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> What blows my mind is that her body was much more like the catty bitch’s than those waifer thin instructors. She had the body that many of her students would have died to have. Who makes for a more inspirational teacher? An anorexic who lives on spirulina and air molecules? Or someone who knows how to balance good health and comfortable living, and who isn’t going to break a hip if they fall out of a pose?
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> You said that your wife is skinny in American terms. That makes me think that she’s more of a size 8 than a size 2. Which is fine. But I just want you to know that there are folks who are [negatively judging](http://zepolopez.blogspot.com/2009/02/although-i-am-not-fan-of-jessica.html) her. Because haters gonna hate. They especially hate if you have the audacity to carry your size-8 ass in a confident, unabashed manner. So you may want to inform your wife she needs to lose the high self-esteem and wrap a Mexican sweater around that Mexican waist of hers. Don’t want to give the peanut gallery an excuse to judge her, now do we?

Hey that’s great. Its a great excuse for 350lb people to neglect their bodies even more. Of course, by your own words, if a woman is extremely thin, she is ‘anorexic’ and liable to ‘break a hip if they fall out of pose’. Me, I prefer people who respect their bodies, and you know what they say, its [what’s inside](http://imgur.com/88OGKe3) that counts!

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### Author: ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)
#### Post date: [July 23, 2014, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-re-fat-people-in-tight-clothes/693646/105 "2014-07-23T16:29:03Z")

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“I LIKE IT!” - John Bigbooty

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### Author: ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)
#### Post date: [July 23, 2014, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-re-fat-people-in-tight-clothes/693646/106 "2014-07-23T17:53:31Z")

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> [@MrsTime](#):
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> It isn’t like we see a fat woman or man in clothes 3 sizes too small and tell them so. My question is, don’t they ever look in the mirror?

That question’s true regardless of fat or thin; I see grown people who should otherwise know better routinely wearing the most absurd looking clothing- ugly-ass nerd ensembles, hillbilly camo outfits, rapper wannabees, women who are 45 going on 13 based on their clothes, and yes, fat people wearing ill-fitting stuff.

All that tells me is two things- there’s no accounting for taste, and a whole LOT of people have very little self-awareness. I mean, the too-thin 45 year old woman with old-lady neck and a lined face has no business buying clothes at Hollister or Abercrombie and Fitch, even if she can fit into them. By the same token, the 40 year old man wearing the gold rope, backward hat, wifebeater and super-baggy shorts hanging off his ass should get a clue as well. Those looks aren’t age appropriate and are equally as odious as some fat person wearing clothes that don’t fit.

However, with the fat person clothes situation, even well fitting clothes will show that you’re fat- the only way to prevent that is to wear super baggy clothes, which to me screams that the person has no self esteem.

So ultimately, it seems that the argument comes down to whether fat people are acceptable to be seen as fat people, or whether they should cover up in shame.

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### Author: ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)
#### Post date: [July 23, 2014, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-re-fat-people-in-tight-clothes/693646/107 "2014-07-23T18:08:42Z")

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> [@Incubus](#):
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> Hey that’s great. Its a great excuse for 350lb people to neglect their bodies even more. Of course, by your own words, if a woman is extremely thin, she is ‘anorexic’ and liable to ‘break a hip if they fall out of pose’. Me, I prefer people who respect their bodies, and you know what they say, its [what’s inside](http://imgur.com/88OGKe3) that counts!

There’s a fundamental breakdown here and it’s that while a fat person may be abdicating responsibility for what goes in their mouth, you’ve abdicated responsibility for what comes out of yours.

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### Author: ![erysichthon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d07c76/32.png) [@erysichthon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erysichthon)
#### Post date: [July 23, 2014, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-re-fat-people-in-tight-clothes/693646/108 "2014-07-23T18:30:34Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> There’s a fundamental breakdown here and it’s that while a fat person may be abdicating responsibility for what goes in their mouth, you’ve abdicated responsibility for what comes out of yours.

If this thread continues for a few more days, I expect **Incubus** to call for internment camps for fat people. You know, to keep them out of sight and force them to “take care of themselves.”

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### Author: ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)
#### Post date: [July 23, 2014, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-re-fat-people-in-tight-clothes/693646/109 "2014-07-23T20:13:08Z")

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> [@erysichthon](#):
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> If this thread continues for a few more days, I expect **Incubus** to call for internment camps for fat people. You know, to keep them out of sight and force them to “take care of themselves.”

Has anyone pitted Incubus? It’s well deserved. If he isn’t spewing venom at fat people or some other group he looks down on, he is bragging about his hot Mexican wife. And isn’t this dude a bus driver??? Not to be a snob, but not exactly the top of the heap when it comes to status.

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### Author: ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2014, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-re-fat-people-in-tight-clothes/693646/110 "2014-07-24T01:31:21Z")

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> [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](#):
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> Has anyone pitted Incubus? It’s well deserved. If he isn’t spewing venom at fat people or some other group he looks down on, he is bragging about his hot Mexican wife. And isn’t this dude a bus driver??? **Not to be a snob, but not exactly the top of the heap when it comes to status.**

I think you have your finger on why he exhibits what he does.

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### Author: ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2014, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-re-fat-people-in-tight-clothes/693646/111 "2014-07-24T01:47:29Z")

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> [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](#):
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> Has anyone pitted Incubus? It’s well deserved. If he isn’t spewing venom at fat people or some other group he looks down on, he is bragging about his hot Mexican wife. And isn’t this dude a bus driver??? Not to be a snob, but not exactly the top of the heap when it comes to status.

Why is it any better to look down upon someone for being a bus driver vs. someone who is overweight? You are being a snob, pure and simple; for example, replace the word bus driver with the word black, and then try to say you are not racist.

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### Author: ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2014, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-re-fat-people-in-tight-clothes/693646/112 "2014-07-24T02:57:32Z")

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What if he were a black bus driver in Mexico?

A black bus would be hard to catch at night. Or during a volcanic eruption.

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### Author: ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2014, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-re-fat-people-in-tight-clothes/693646/113 "2014-07-24T03:30:46Z")

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> [@Mr.Nylock](#):
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> Why is it any better to look down upon someone for being a bus driver vs. someone who is overweight?

Yeah, both are doing the very best they can. 🙂

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### Author: ![AnaMen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dfb087/32.png) [@AnaMen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnaMen)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2014, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-re-fat-people-in-tight-clothes/693646/114 "2014-07-24T04:29:42Z")

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> [@bump](#):
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> That question’s true regardless of fat or thin; I see grown people who should otherwise know better routinely wearing the most absurd looking clothing- ugly-ass nerd ensembles, hillbilly camo outfits, rapper wannabees, women who are 45 going on 13 based on their clothes, and yes, fat people wearing ill-fitting stuff.
> 
> All that tells me is two things- there’s no accounting for taste, and a whole LOT of people have very little self-awareness. I mean, the too-thin 45 year old woman with old-lady neck and a lined face has no business buying clothes at Hollister or Abercrombie and Fitch, even if she can fit into them. By the same token, the 40 year old man wearing the gold rope, backward hat, wifebeater and super-baggy shorts hanging off his ass should get a clue as well. Those looks aren’t age appropriate and are equally as odious as some fat person wearing clothes that don’t fit.
> 
> However, with the fat person clothes situation, even well fitting clothes will show that you’re fat- the only way to prevent that is to wear super baggy clothes, which to me screams that the person has no self esteem.
> 
> So ultimately, it seems that the argument comes down to whether fat people are acceptable to be seen as fat people, or whether they should cover up in shame.

Having self-awareness and choosing to dress in a way that fits your version of what people ought to wear are two different things. What’s it to you if someone with wrinkles wears an Abercrombie sweater or some old dude’s hat is backwards? Other people are just living their lives, not parading by in costumes hoping to win your approval.

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### Author: ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2014, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-re-fat-people-in-tight-clothes/693646/115 "2014-07-24T13:09:36Z")

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> [@bump](#):
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> That question’s true regardless of fat or thin; I see grown people who should otherwise know better routinely wearing the most absurd looking clothing- ugly-ass nerd ensembles, hillbilly camo outfits, rapper wannabees, women who are 45 going on 13 based on their clothes, and yes, fat people wearing ill-fitting stuff.
> 
> All that tells me is two things- there’s no accounting for taste, and a whole LOT of people have very little self-awareness. I mean, the too-thin 45 year old woman with old-lady neck and a lined face has no business buying clothes at Hollister or Abercrombie and Fitch, even if she can fit into them. By the same token, the 40 year old man wearing the gold rope, backward hat, wifebeater and super-baggy shorts hanging off his ass should get a clue as well. Those looks aren’t age appropriate and are equally as odious as some fat person wearing clothes that don’t fit.

I know what you mean! One of the most common “mistakes” I see around here is girls wearing the little spandex dresses that are hardly long enough to cover their butt cheeks. They don’t look bad, exactly, they just look a bit miserable constantly pulling at their hems and trying to keep their stomachs sucked in.

I guess we should go chat about that in the other thread: [Requesting: tales of people being inappropriately dressed - Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=728672)

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### Author: ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2014, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-re-fat-people-in-tight-clothes/693646/116 "2014-07-24T14:25:11Z")

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> [@Mr.Nylock](#):
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> Why is it any better to look down upon someone for being a bus driver vs. someone who is overweight? You are being a snob, pure and simple; for example, replace the word bus driver with the word black, and then try to say you are not racist.

Yeah, yeah. I am not a snob and I don’t look down on bus drivers or anyone who makes an honest living. But it’s a fact that many people do in fact look down on bus drivers or other service type workers. For him to be in that position and to be so critical of other people is rather telling.

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### Author: ![Incubus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c68b51/32.png) [@Incubus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Incubus)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2014, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-re-fat-people-in-tight-clothes/693646/117 "2014-07-24T14:57:24Z")

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See, that’s fine if people look down on me because of my blue collar job. It doesn’t bother me, and I’m not going to get defensive about it and whine to people on the internet that society doesn’t value my existence.

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### Author: ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2014, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-re-fat-people-in-tight-clothes/693646/118 "2014-07-24T15:10:11Z")

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> [@Incubus](#):
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> See, that’s fine if people look down on me because of my blue collar job. It doesn’t bother me, and I’m not going to get defensive about it and whine to people on the internet that society doesn’t value my existence.

It’s just interesting that since you are in a “class” that some look down on you would be so vocal against another group that is also looked down on (fat folks).

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### Author: ![RedBloom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/dbc845/32.png) [@RedBloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedBloom)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2014, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-re-fat-people-in-tight-clothes/693646/119 "2014-07-24T18:30:45Z")

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I’m assuming they don’t have enough $$ to buy new clothes, or don’t realize how tight they are, perhaps. Maybe they feel thinner wearing fitted clothes? Maybe they don’t care. It’s not always the nicest thing to see, but their reason is probably none of my business.

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### Author: ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)
#### Post date: [July 24, 2014, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-are-your-thoughts-re-fat-people-in-tight-clothes/693646/120 "2014-07-24T19:27:46Z")

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> [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](#):
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> It’s just interesting that since you are in a “class” that some look down on you would be so vocal against another group that is also looked down on (fat folks).

His posts come off like he’s one of those people that hates their shitty life so much that they have to make fun of other people to feel better about their shitty life.

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