# What book or movie has the 'badguys' winning? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 24, 2004, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-book-or-movie-has-the-badguys-winning/246755 "2004-05-24T05:52:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2004, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-book-or-movie-has-the-badguys-winning/246755/81 "2004-05-26T13:07:49Z")
Breaker Morant. A most excellent movie. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2004, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-book-or-movie-has-the-badguys-winning/246755/82 "2004-05-26T13:17:58Z")
**McCabe and Mrs. Miller** doesn’t really have any good guys, but at the end of that movie, the badder bad guys win. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2004, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-book-or-movie-has-the-badguys-winning/246755/83 "2004-05-26T15:35:17Z")
\*\*Dances with Wolves. Aliens and Alien3.\*\* In one of the Bond novels (From Russia with Love?) the evil Russian spy lady kicks Bond with her poisoned knife-shoe at the end of the book, and the last scene has Bond lying on the floor, dying of poison. This isn’t mentioned in the next book, by the way. ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2004, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-book-or-movie-has-the-badguys-winning/246755/84 "2004-05-26T16:00:26Z")
**Invasion of the Body Snatchers** **The Company of Men** ---
**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2004, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-book-or-movie-has-the-badguys-winning/246755/85 "2004-05-26T18:54:30Z")
> [@The Scrivener](#): > > **Monty Python’s The Life of Brian** – nice Jewish boy Brian Cohen gets crucified, while his spineless comrades in the Judean People’s Front (or was it the People’s Front of Judea?) get to keep attending their ineffectual meetings. :wally Actually, the JPF(or the PFJ) did send the elite suicide squad to help, and they performed their duty quite well(not that it was any help to brian). ---
**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2004, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-book-or-movie-has-the-badguys-winning/246755/86 "2004-05-26T21:27:25Z")
> [@lowblow](#): > > Maybe he is a skin head. But would that get him banned? How does the banning work here? I am not saying it is right being skinhead but isn’t everybody entitled to their thoughts and opinions? FYI: Being a skinhead isn’t the same thing as being a racist or anti-semitic. There are plenty of skinheads who are not racist or anti-semites. ---
**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2004, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-book-or-movie-has-the-badguys-winning/246755/87 "2004-05-26T21:29:13Z")
Oh, and has anybody already said **Glory**? ---
**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2004, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-book-or-movie-has-the-badguys-winning/246755/88 "2004-05-26T21:34:34Z")
> [@spoke-](#): > > **Invasion of the Body Snatchers** Only the re-make, though. In the original, a man escapes to another town, and tries to warn the people there, who presumably haven’t had their bodies snatched yet. The outcome is left up in the air. ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2004, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-book-or-movie-has-the-badguys-winning/246755/89 "2004-05-26T21:43:46Z")
> [@blowero](#): > > Only the re-make, though. In the original, a man escapes to another town, and tries to warn the people there, who presumably haven’t had their bodies snatched yet. The outcome is left up in the air. Disagree. I think it’s made pretty clear at the end of the original that the situation is hopeless. No one can go without sleep forever, and the pods are being transported across the country. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Death](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecccb3/32.png) [@Evil\_Death](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Death)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2004, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-book-or-movie-has-the-badguys-winning/246755/90 "2004-05-26T22:06:47Z")
> [@spoke-](#): > > Disagree. I think it’s made pretty clear at the end of the original that the situation is hopeless. No one can go without sleep forever, and the pods are being transported across the country. Not to mention that he turns up at the start of the remake, still screaming about aliens and not being believed. 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-book-or-movie-has-the-badguys-winning/246755.md?page=4)