# What Brands Have You Given Up On And Why?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-brands-have-you-given-up-on-and-why/694301>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [July 29, 2014, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-brands-have-you-given-up-on-and-why/694301 "2014-07-29T03:38:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![notquitekarpov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@notquitekarpov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notquitekarpov)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2014, 9:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-brands-have-you-given-up-on-and-why/694301/101 "2014-08-07T09:20:04Z")

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I try to avoid anything and everything owned by Rupert Murdoch/News Corp/20th Century Fox - on ethical grounds. He is a complete scumbag. I know indirectly I probably feed the monster in some fashion - part of my payments to others ending up going to him - but I try.

Same with RyanAir - if only they fly there then I don’t go there. Another scumbag.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2014, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-brands-have-you-given-up-on-and-why/694301/102 "2014-08-07T13:37:55Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> Land’s End used to make sturdy, if boring, clothes; perfect for casual work clothes. The quality has really dropped off and I no longer buy from them.

My dad used to love Land’s End so much he’d pay $50+ a pop to have them ship boat shoes and similar crap to Oman. No more.

> [@astorian](#):
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> As chain restaurants go, Carrabba’s used to have pretty good food.
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> They’ve been getting progressively worse, the past few years. There USED to be a big difference in quality between Carrabba’s and Olvie Garden. Not any more.

Maybe you haven’t been in an Olive Garden lately, but there’s still a _huge_ difference. It’s just that Carrabba’s used to be great and is now just okay, while Olive Garden used to be okay and is now utterly inedible.

> [@Grumman](#):
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> Bioware, and every other brand in EA’s clutches. I will not give money to EA, because the only way EA will ever stop being immoral dickbags and killing brands I liked is if their company starves to death.

What immoral dickbag stuff is EA doing? I haven’t really been paying much attention to the industry lately.

> [@FairyChatMom](#):
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> A few years back, we had a guy in to look at the avocado green dryer that had been left in this house when we bought it. I was asking him what he’d recommend as a replacement, and he specifically said “Not Maytag” - He said they’d taken to replacing formerly long-lasting metal parts with plastic or nylon substitutes, and they were crap. Since I wasn’t buying a dryer from him, I’m pretty sure he didn’t have any reason to lie to me.

Apropos of nothing, when we bought our fridge and dishwasher at Home Depot the salesguy talked us out of Maytags (and into a much cheaper GE). He said they had 13 Maytag returns sitting in the back and one of all the other brands combined.

Having said that, the GE dishwasher is pretty shitty.

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**Author:** ![mack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mack)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2014, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-brands-have-you-given-up-on-and-why/694301/103 "2014-08-07T18:18:32Z")

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> [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](#):
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> I might have considered an iPhone when the contract on my current Android device expires, until I heard that the charging port and headphone jack are the same.

I’m not sure what this means. they are separate plugs.

I’m definitely disappointed in my Apple computers- iMac and MacBook Pro. The hard drives died in both. Later on my MacBook Pro died a few months after my applecare expired so I don’t want to take it in until I’ve scraped together a few hundred bucks. Pissed.

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**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2014, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-brands-have-you-given-up-on-and-why/694301/104 "2014-08-09T01:30:48Z")

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> [@mack](#):
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> > until I heard that the charging port and headphone jack are the same.
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> I’m not sure what this means. they are separate plugs.

I must have misunderstood; I stand corrected.

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**Author:** ![HoneyBadgerDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honeybadgerdc/32/1033_2.png) [@HoneyBadgerDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HoneyBadgerDC)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2014, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-brands-have-you-given-up-on-and-why/694301/105 "2014-08-09T01:47:37Z")

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Snap on Tools, about 10 years ago I got tired of paying the price and found I get just as good if not better service out of the cheap harbor freight tools. Thier 12 point sockets used to be unbeatable as were there wrenches. They still have a better selection of shapes and sizes and specialty tools that I sometimes have to buy but I only buy them when I can’t find the same thing in something else. Besides that my tools don’t get stolen as often without the big name on them.

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**Author:** ![jabiru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bbce88/32.png) [@jabiru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jabiru)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2014, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-brands-have-you-given-up-on-and-why/694301/106 "2014-08-09T04:48:44Z")

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> [@bump](#):
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> The commercials pronounce it “Pan-Teen” in the US, and “Pan-Ten” in the UK, even when the product is identical…

Slightly off topic but I wonder why on earth they do this? There’s a facial moisturiser which I assume is still around, although I haven’t bought it for decades. In Australia it was called Oil of _Ulan_. In the US and the UK, it was called Oil of _Olay_ or Oil of _Ulay_ not sure which name applied to which country but the products were identical (I bought some in the UK when I was there).

NB I may even have mixed up what we called it here but I do know that there were three similar but slightly different names for exactly the same moisturiser. Very odd.

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**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2014, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-brands-have-you-given-up-on-and-why/694301/107 "2014-08-09T13:27:37Z")

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> [@jabiru](#):
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> Slightly off topic but I wonder why on earth they do this? There’s a facial moisturiser which I assume is still around, although I haven’t bought it for decades. In Australia it was called Oil of _Ulan_. In the US and the UK, it was called Oil of _Olay_ or Oil of _Ulay_ not sure which name applied to which country but the products were identical (I bought some in the UK when I was there).

In Mexico, it’s called Oil of ¡Olé!

d&r 😛

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2014, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-brands-have-you-given-up-on-and-why/694301/108 "2014-08-09T18:28:50Z")

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> [@notquitekarpov](#):
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> I try to avoid anything and everything owned by Rupert Murdoch/News Corp/20th Century Fox - on ethical grounds. He is a complete scumbag. I know indirectly I probably feed the monster in some fashion - part of my payments to others ending up going to him - but I try.
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> Same with RyanAir - if only they fly there then I don’t go there. Another scumbag.

Speaking of Murdoch, I loved it when columnist Mike Royko left the Chicago Sun-Times when Murdoch bought it. He moved to the rival Chicago Tribune, saying “no self respecting fish would be caught wrapped in one of Murdoch’s papers.”

Cite: [Mike Royko - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Royko)

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2014, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-brands-have-you-given-up-on-and-why/694301/109 "2014-08-09T19:32:07Z")

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> [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](#):
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> I must have misunderstood; I stand corrected.

They’re on the same _side_ of the phone now. The headphone jack used to be on top near the power button, now it’s on the bottom near the charging port.

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**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2014, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-brands-have-you-given-up-on-and-why/694301/110 "2014-08-09T20:42:57Z")

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nm…

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**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2014, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-brands-have-you-given-up-on-and-why/694301/111 "2014-08-09T21:29:05Z")

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> [@USCDiver](#):
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> They’re on the same _side_ of the phone now. The headphone jack used to be on top near the power button, now it’s on the bottom near the charging port.

Without having actually held or closely examined the device in question, this arrangement does strike me as just a bit awkward, but not horrendously so. It would only affect a few of those who like to use the device with headphones while it is charging, e.g. on a nightstand or table. It doesn’t seem like a dealbreaker, though I do recall that some people complained about it.

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**Author:** ![jabiru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bbce88/32.png) [@jabiru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jabiru)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2014, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-brands-have-you-given-up-on-and-why/694301/112 "2014-08-09T23:53:41Z")

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> [@OneCentStamp](#):
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> In Mexico, it’s called Oil of ¡Olé!
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> d&r 😛

I like that best of all.

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**Author:** ![LH75](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lh75/32/4438_2.png) [@LH75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LH75)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2014, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-brands-have-you-given-up-on-and-why/694301/113 "2014-08-10T00:54:05Z")

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I have also given up on Levi brand jeans. Kirkland jeans from Costco are much better made and about a quarter of the price.

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**Author:** ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2014, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-brands-have-you-given-up-on-and-why/694301/114 "2014-08-10T02:28:38Z")

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> [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](#):
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> I might have considered an iPhone when the contract on my current Android device expires, until I heard that the charging port and headphone jack are the same. That’s an absolute deal breaker for someone who listens to music and podcasts as much as I do.
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> Not that I’m entirely happy with Google/Android either, though.

Whaaaaa?  
::: Rick looks at the bottom of his iPhone 5S:::  
Nope sorry the lighting connector is in the center, the headphone port is off to the left.

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