# What came before GOD..if one is to believe there is GOD **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [March 3, 2000, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-came-before-god-if-one-is-to-believe-there-is-god/17639 "2000-03-03T19:41:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jayburner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/fbc32d/32.png) [@jayburner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayburner)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2000, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-came-before-god-if-one-is-to-believe-there-is-god/17639/1 "2000-03-03T19:41:00Z")
what came before God…did this entity have parents…there must be something before GOD…I’m getting a headache now ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2000, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-came-before-god-if-one-is-to-believe-there-is-god/17639/2 "2000-03-03T19:52:00Z")
> [@](#): > > there must be something before GOD Why? ---
**Author:** ![Breckinshire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/71c47a/32.png) [@Breckinshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Breckinshire)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2000, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-came-before-god-if-one-is-to-believe-there-is-god/17639/3 "2000-03-03T19:55:00Z")
If you’re a strict Christian, you will say that there was nothing before God, which is almost a self contradiction (if there was nothing before God, then there was no God). My belief is that there were humans before God, and humans are therefore God’s parents. The whole religion thing has holes so big you could drive cattle through, which is why I left the church. ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2000, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-came-before-god-if-one-is-to-believe-there-is-god/17639/4 "2000-03-03T20:06:00Z")
“goby,” in _my_ dictionary… ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2000, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-came-before-god-if-one-is-to-believe-there-is-god/17639/5 "2000-03-03T20:30:00Z")
Now **that** is scary, spoke! {{visualize JAB’s Darwin-amphibian here}} ---
**Author:** ![mrblue92](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@mrblue92](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mrblue92)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2000, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-came-before-god-if-one-is-to-believe-there-is-god/17639/6 "2000-03-03T21:48:00Z")
Imagine if you will, a theoretical being named Bob creates a sentient bacteria with a lifespan of 3 days. He talks briefly to a few of them, or make miracles for them via electron microscope, but most of the time they spend their time in his sock drawer. Some of the bacteria recognize Bob’s existence, but others do not. Some will ask the others were Bob came from if he exists. Since they have no way of telling, no such frame of reference, how can any, even if they somehow know he exists, come up with a valid answer? They are, by their very nature, incapable of completely comprehending Bob, and therefore will never be able to understand him. In fact, they have an incredibly difficult time explaining the minute aspects of their own anatomy. The question is unanswerable because we can not observe God. ---
**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2000, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-came-before-god-if-one-is-to-believe-there-is-god/17639/7 "2000-03-03T22:00:00Z")
> [@](#): > > The question is unanswerable because we can not observe God. Nonsense. We just need a better microscope. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2000, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-came-before-god-if-one-is-to-believe-there-is-god/17639/8 "2000-03-03T22:01:00Z")
Or maybe a better therapist. ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2000, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-came-before-god-if-one-is-to-believe-there-is-god/17639/9 "2000-03-03T22:13:00Z")
> [@](#): > > [W]hat came before God[?] His wife, if he was a thoughtful fellow… (Shooting for next year’s **Most Blasphemous Poster** award…) ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2000, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-came-before-god-if-one-is-to-believe-there-is-god/17639/10 "2000-03-03T22:18:00Z")
Why all this mystical jabberwocky about the simple notion of eternity? ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2000, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-came-before-god-if-one-is-to-believe-there-is-god/17639/11 "2000-03-03T22:40:00Z")
Thank you, **Lib**. My point exactly. ---
**Author:** ![Cooper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/50afbb/32.png) [@Cooper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cooper)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2000, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-came-before-god-if-one-is-to-believe-there-is-god/17639/12 "2000-03-04T01:50:00Z")
Whats all this jabberwocky about super-magic-invisible-pink-unicorn? I mean, its magic. Duh. ---
**Author:** ![tagerine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e36b37/32.png) [@tagerine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tagerine)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2000, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-came-before-god-if-one-is-to-believe-there-is-god/17639/13 "2000-03-04T02:01:00Z")
god’s a tricky subject… * * * “I’ve been expecting you,” said Marx,“What took you so long?” ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2000, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-came-before-god-if-one-is-to-believe-there-is-god/17639/14 "2000-03-04T02:03:00Z")
That’s what Prince John said about Robin Hood! 🙂 Hey, Lib.? “Before the Big Bang was, I AM”?? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Wage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7993a0/32.png) [@Wage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wage)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2000, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-came-before-god-if-one-is-to-believe-there-is-god/17639/15 "2000-03-04T02:37:00Z")
I believe before God came…more God. Sounds strange, but God is portrayed in the King James Bible as an eternally dwelling entity, omnipotent, so therefore he is always there AND never there AND sometimes there, if he wants. I refer you over to the Topic, “God and Stones”. That has interesting conversation about the omnipotency (Is that the right word?) of God. ---
**Author:** ![DSC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9dc877/32.png) [@DSC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSC)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2000, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-came-before-god-if-one-is-to-believe-there-is-god/17639/16 "2000-03-04T04:51:00Z")
What came before god? Well, since I think modern man created god by using his (and her)larger brain, not the other way around, I’d have to say that a better question is “What came before modern man?” The little smaller brained buggers who were our ancestors, that’s who. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2000, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-came-before-god-if-one-is-to-believe-there-is-god/17639/17 "2000-03-05T06:29:00Z")
**Poly** > [@](#): > > Hey, Lib.? “Before the Big Bang was, I AM”?? 🙂 Good one, Poly. Like the principle that dare not speak its name in mundane GD threads, it is Ockhamly simple. **DSC** I agree with you that man created **god** with his **brain**. But if man created **God** , then it _had_ to have been with his **heart**. And the more I think about that, the more unlikely I find it. ---
**Author:** ![pashley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e0b2c6/32.png) [@pashley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pashley)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2000, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-came-before-god-if-one-is-to-believe-there-is-god/17639/18 "2000-03-05T06:45:00Z")
God’s existence is like the infinity of the cosmos; he has no end, no beginning. It’s like saying “where does a circle begin?” I’d like to know what you big-bang theorists have to say about this: If everything came from one “object”, what was outside of the object, just space? Also, how did this object come to be? * * * Patrick Ashley ‘The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.’ -Edmund Burke ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2000, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-came-before-god-if-one-is-to-believe-there-is-god/17639/19 "2000-03-05T06:48:00Z")
There _was_ no outside the object, at least not from its reference frame, and still isn’t. Can’t be. Never will. How it came to be is hard to say. It’s existence isn’t even provable. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2000, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-came-before-god-if-one-is-to-believe-there-is-god/17639/20 "2000-03-05T06:55:00Z")
Hey Pash ol’ boy, what if we call this object “God”? So much for THAT argument. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-came-before-god-if-one-is-to-believe-there-is-god/17639.md?page=2)