# What can replace the Confederate Flag as a symbol of Southern Pride? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [June 24, 2015, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-can-replace-the-confederate-flag-as-a-symbol-of-southern-pride/723385 "2015-06-24T19:35:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-can-replace-the-confederate-flag-as-a-symbol-of-southern-pride/723385/141 "2015-06-26T16:16:49Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > If you want a flag worth anything for the South, it needs to be simple and stick to one, or at most, two symbols. To be sufficiently distinct from the flag of the United States and the Confederacy, change the colors, but use no more than two or three. > > So what should the colors be? Celadon and puce. You can’t go wrong with puce. ---
**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-can-replace-the-confederate-flag-as-a-symbol-of-southern-pride/723385/142 "2015-06-26T18:15:48Z")
> [@The Great Sun Jester](#): > > What can replace the Confederate Flag as a symbol of Southern Pride? > > How about the current flag of the United States of America–the one with 50 stars, and not only 39? > > As an entity, what do the states comprising The South have to proud of? The only thing they have in common that makes them unique to themselves is a treasonous event centered around the desire to enslave human beings. Individually, the states all have their charms (except Mississippi) worthy of celebration. Suggested by Chris Rock: (SAFE FOR WORK) [http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/9/95/Cracker.snack.bread.jpg/revision/20070428062644](http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/9/95/Cracker.snack.bread.jpg/revision/20070428062644) ---
**Author:** ![Greg\_Charles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/839c29/32.png) [@Greg\_Charles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greg_Charles)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-can-replace-the-confederate-flag-as-a-symbol-of-southern-pride/723385/143 "2015-06-26T20:24:21Z")
> [@MindsEye\_Watering](#): > > I was thinking that a [Dunce Cap](http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-dunce-cap.htm) would work for that. Yeah, but they’re not too happy with [SCOTUS](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duns_Scotus) either. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-can-replace-the-confederate-flag-as-a-symbol-of-southern-pride/723385/144 "2015-06-26T20:28:14Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > Don’t be so smug. The Southern Poverty Law Center prepared this[map of hate groups](http://www.splcenter.org/hate-map), nationwide. Even outside the South, quite a few consider themselves affiliated with the KKK. I find it funny that California, supposedly the most liberal and progressive state, has the most hate groups. > [@VinylTurnip](#): > > I was before **GusNSpot** stomped on it. ☹ I did too. Now it has mud and dog poop on it. > [@TreacherousCretin](#): > > Suggested by Chris Rock: (SAFE FOR WORK) > > [http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/9/95/Cracker.snack.bread.jpg/revision/20070428062644](http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/9/95/Cracker.snack.bread.jpg/revision/20070428062644) That’s racist. ---
**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-can-replace-the-confederate-flag-as-a-symbol-of-southern-pride/723385/145 "2015-06-26T20:38:06Z")
Going back to the OT, how about chicken fried steak or biscuits with sausage gravy. Or grits. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-can-replace-the-confederate-flag-as-a-symbol-of-southern-pride/723385/146 "2015-06-26T20:46:18Z")
> [@Accidental\_Martyr](#): > > How about we tone down the “South bashing” a little bit? Lumping all Southerners together is no different than stereotyping any other group of people. There are all kinds of people in every region of the U.S. and it’s really not fair to make judgements on an entire group of people or a geographic area. That’s exactly why there is demand for a “Southern Flag”. After awhile of your region getting told you are racists, stupid, uneducated, backwards, eat funny shit, talk funny, and a host of other shit you kinda want a “pride for the good things about you” regional flag. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn1767](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Shawn1767](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shawn1767)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-can-replace-the-confederate-flag-as-a-symbol-of-southern-pride/723385/147 "2015-06-26T21:05:38Z")
“I’m not prejudiced like all those racist, dumbass, Fox-news-watching Southerners!” Jeebus, spare me. I’m from the South, I hate Fox-news, don’t get the love for the Confederate Flag and have a college education and am fairly liberal. It really undermines a person’s argument against prejudice when that person is obviously prejudiced against groups of people, like Southerners. ---
**Author:** ![AnaMen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dfb087/32.png) [@AnaMen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnaMen)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-can-replace-the-confederate-flag-as-a-symbol-of-southern-pride/723385/148 "2015-06-26T21:20:19Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > That’s exactly why there is demand for a “Southern Flag”. > > After awhile of your region getting told you are racists, stupid, uneducated, backwards, eat funny shit, talk funny, and a host of other shit you kinda want a “pride for the good things about you” regional flag. Oh come on, everyone loves the food. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-can-replace-the-confederate-flag-as-a-symbol-of-southern-pride/723385/149 "2015-06-26T21:25:09Z")
Grits? Fried Okra? Diabeetus level sweet tea? Mullet roe? White Mullet roe? Shoot. I just realized I’m not sure how to spell roe. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-can-replace-the-confederate-flag-as-a-symbol-of-southern-pride/723385/150 "2015-06-26T21:34:09Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > You like Twain and Poe (born in Virginia)… Edgar Allan Poe was born in Boston, MA. He was orphaned at the age of two and was taken in by John Allan, a Scotsman who had a business in Richmond, VA. Although he lived in Virginia for a few years and attended the University of Virginia for a semester, he was hardly a Southerner. He moved with his family to the British Isles, attending a grammar school in Scotland and boarding school in England. After moving back to the States and attending UVA, he enlisted in the Army, then attended the military academy at West Point. He became a journalist and his job carried him around between New York City, Philadelphia, and Baltimore. So the South really can’t claim him. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-can-replace-the-confederate-flag-as-a-symbol-of-southern-pride/723385/151 "2015-06-26T21:34:53Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > Mullet roe? White Mullet roe? Mullet _haircuts_? ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-can-replace-the-confederate-flag-as-a-symbol-of-southern-pride/723385/152 "2015-06-26T21:36:46Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Mullet _haircuts_? More like pan fried (well deep fried) semen and it’s biological cousin. But, yeah, the haircuts too. ---
**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-can-replace-the-confederate-flag-as-a-symbol-of-southern-pride/723385/153 "2015-06-26T21:38:29Z")
> [@Shawn1767](#): > > “I’m not prejudiced like all those racist, dumbass, Fox-news-watching Southerners!” > > Jeebus, spare me. > > I’m from the South, I hate Fox-news, don’t get the love for the Confederate Flag and have a college education and am fairly liberal. It really undermines a person’s argument against prejudice when that person is obviously prejudiced against groups of people, like Southerners. Yep. I was born in NC, lived most of my youth in small town southeast Virginia, and eventually moved to Atlanta for work, so I’ve lived south of the M-D line my entire life. The most racist person I know? My ex father-in-law, a 70 something year old white man. The second most racist person I know? A co-worker in my Atlanta office. He lived almost his entire life, until 4 years ago, in Flint Michigan. The area around Flint has an amazingly checkered track record with white supremacists. I know _those_ people that everyone caricatures as an inbred, backwoods hillbilly really do exist. But I really do believe they are a declining number, and I would be amazed to find they are anywhere near a majority. I LIKE the fact that the high school I went to in Virginia was about 50/50 white/black. And yes, I have African-American friends. And gay ones. And even a few Northerners! Tell you what, don’t judge all Southerners by your redneck caricature, and I won’t assume that all Northerners are like [this.](https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&ved=0CAcQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fdearthmusiclicensing.com%2F%3Fp%3D639&ei=lMWNVauoL4G2sQWt_oDoCg&bvm=bv.96783405,d.b2w&psig=AFQjCNF73fLPEU5-jOrQscjjrj9cozvzsA&ust=1435440900908692) But no, we don’t need a flag. We have [one.](https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&ved=0CAcQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fimgurer.com%2Fus-flag%2F&ei=DcaNVYGKLYuGsAWnmoOABA&bvm=bv.96783405,d.b2w&psig=AFQjCNH2dG7Mgl6fUwbG_y8sCkvdX_9E_g&ust=1435441032528106) With the news from SCOTUS today, I made sure my flag was out on the front my house today. ---
**Author:** ![AnaMen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dfb087/32.png) [@AnaMen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnaMen)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-can-replace-the-confederate-flag-as-a-symbol-of-southern-pride/723385/154 "2015-06-26T21:41:46Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > Grits? Fried Okra? Diabeetus level sweet tea? > > Mullet roe? White Mullet roe? > > Shoot. I just realized I’m not sure how to spell roe. Yum to all except grits. Add in some corn bread and greens with ham hocks too, please! ---
**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-can-replace-the-confederate-flag-as-a-symbol-of-southern-pride/723385/155 "2015-06-27T02:43:26Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > That’s racist. Oh. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-can-replace-the-confederate-flag-as-a-symbol-of-southern-pride/723385.md?page=7)