# What celebrities are homosexual, but are often thought not to be?

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**Created:** [March 23, 2005, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-celebrities-are-homosexual-but-are-often-thought-not-to-be/295927 "2005-03-23T20:00:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2005, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-celebrities-are-homosexual-but-are-often-thought-not-to-be/295927/101 "2005-03-25T10:24:40Z")

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> [@Walloon](#):
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> Actually, her full name at birth was Lizzie Andrew Borden, not Elizabeth.

_hangs head in shame_

sorry

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**Author:** ![My\_Darn\_Snake\_Legs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f14d63/32.png) [@My\_Darn\_Snake\_Legs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/My_Darn_Snake_Legs)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2005, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-celebrities-are-homosexual-but-are-often-thought-not-to-be/295927/102 "2005-03-25T17:13:49Z")

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> [@Padeye](#):
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> It isn’t unimportant but I think our goal as a society should be to reach a point where when we learn someone is gay the general public’s response is “meh.”

Actually, my response was “Woah…that’s hot.” I had exactly the same reaction to the news that Jorja Fox was gay.

I submit that this is exactly appropriate.

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2005, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-celebrities-are-homosexual-but-are-often-thought-not-to-be/295927/103 "2005-03-26T00:40:37Z")

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> [@kunilou](#):
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> Yes, it’s actually true that the only boy who could ever reach her was the son of the preacher man.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA.

You rock. 😃

Speaking of which, I’ve spent the day with Dwayne Johnson ( The Rock ). My gaydar didn’t even twitch.

I spent about 25 minutes with Anderson Cooper and my gaydar rang like a fuckin’ bell on a cold clear night.

Cartooniverse

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**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2005, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-celebrities-are-homosexual-but-are-often-thought-not-to-be/295927/104 "2005-03-26T03:23:02Z")

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Here’s my take on the famous & gay website; I learned where the Merchant Ivory film company got its name. Good to know. I learned that if you’re at all well-known and Dutch, you’re probably gay. How is it they make more Dutch people at all? Is IVF booming over there or what?

I was horrified at two things, however; one is that my deep need for designer jeans in 1983 helped put Anderson Cooper through Yale, and B) it’s really wrong to say whether or not ANYONE has HIV/AIDS in a public forum like the Web. What if you’re wrong? Regardless, who’s damn business is it anyway?? It isn’t like they’re ‘protecting’ anyone from being infected by a living and possibly positive celeb with this website.

Outing someone as gay is one unsettling thing; announcing their possible HIV/Aids status is quite another, no?

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**Author:** ![Large\_Marge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/50afbb/32.png) [@Large\_Marge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Large_Marge)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2005, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-celebrities-are-homosexual-but-are-often-thought-not-to-be/295927/105 "2005-03-26T03:26:41Z")

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> [@Walloon](#):
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> Except for that cover story in the October 1997 issue of _Esquire_ magazine, titled [Kevin Spacey Has a Secret](http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_kmesq/is_199710/ai_kepm180321). 😉

No way!!

That page wouldn’t load for me. ☹

Shoot!!

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**Author:** ![Large\_Marge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/50afbb/32.png) [@Large\_Marge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Large_Marge)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2005, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-celebrities-are-homosexual-but-are-often-thought-not-to-be/295927/106 "2005-03-26T03:35:22Z")

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> [@Cartooniverse](#):
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> Speaking of which, I’ve spent the day with Dwayne Johnson ( The Rock ). My gaydar didn’t even twitch.

You **spent the day with The Rock???**

I could stare at that man all day and, sadly, that’s probably what I’d do if I were offered a chance to spend 24 hours with him. Just. Stare.

Details!! We need details!!

[sub]Ok, just a few, cuz I don’t want to majorly hijack this thread.[/sub]

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**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2005, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-celebrities-are-homosexual-but-are-often-thought-not-to-be/295927/107 "2005-03-26T03:42:24Z")

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And in relation to the actual OP, :smack: , it’s long been talked about that retired NHLer Wendel Clark is gay. He was here in Detroit for about a season and the rumors flew. Doesn’t mean they’re at all substantial, of course, but fly they did.

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**Post date:** [March 26, 2005, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-celebrities-are-homosexual-but-are-often-thought-not-to-be/295927/108 "2005-03-26T04:08:10Z")

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> [@Large Marge](#):
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> You **spent the day with The Rock???**
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> I could stare at that man all day and, sadly, that’s probably what I’d do if I were offered a chance to spend 24 hours with him. Just. Stare.
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> Details!! We need details!!
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> [sub]Ok, just a few, cuz I don’t want to majorly hijack this thread.[/sub]

E-mail me. 😃 I’ll tell all.

Heh.

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**Post date:** [March 26, 2005, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-celebrities-are-homosexual-but-are-often-thought-not-to-be/295927/109 "2005-03-26T05:40:21Z")

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> [@MidnightRadio](#):
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> I’d heard rumors that John Mahoney was gay, but is it a “known” fact?

Gay schmay, what weirds me out is that he’s English.

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**Post date:** [March 26, 2005, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-celebrities-are-homosexual-but-are-often-thought-not-to-be/295927/110 "2005-03-26T06:09:50Z")

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> [@Raygun99](#):
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> You’re really surprised at him? His outing was rather public, and included drugs, a teenager, and, uh, watersports.

Oh, lord, not this again. While he was out as gay, the watersports-with-the-16-year-old thing was a joke he made to (IIRC) Matthew Hays at a party, and came to the attention of the people at Maclean’s, who reported it as fact.

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2005, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-celebrities-are-homosexual-but-are-often-thought-not-to-be/295927/111 "2005-03-27T20:27:59Z")

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I can think of nowhere appropriate to put this, but this is a surprising fact so:

Webcomic reveals that god doesn’t hate gay people:

> **[Elijah and Azuu on The Duck : Page The Crucifixion: The Price of Redemption](https://www.theduckwebcomics.com/Elijah_and_Azuu/?i=95135)**
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> Don't forget to read \[url=http://wausaucomics.com/webcomics/PTD/2011/06/09/2011-06-09/\]Preteen Demon\[/url\] to see what's happening with Azuu's son, Jasomet. Updating every Thursday through \[http://ingenre.com/\]InGenre\[/url\].

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2005, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-celebrities-are-homosexual-but-are-often-thought-not-to-be/295927/112 "2005-03-27T23:09:15Z")

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Well there have been rumors flying about Kevin Spacey for quite some time. Wandering around in a park in London that is reputed to be a hang-out for gay men late at night doesn’t help.

There were a lot of stories about him floating around Dublin when he was there filming Ordinary Decent Criminal.

All rumors though so who knows.

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**Post date:** [March 29, 2005, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-celebrities-are-homosexual-but-are-often-thought-not-to-be/295927/113 "2005-03-29T16:11:55Z")

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Some I have heard:

Kevin Spacey  
Benjamin MacKenzie from the OC  
Anderson Cooper

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**Post date:** [March 29, 2005, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-celebrities-are-homosexual-but-are-often-thought-not-to-be/295927/114 "2005-03-29T19:53:18Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Benjamin MacKenzie from the OC  
> Anderson Cooper

Anderson Cooper is out, although he doesn’t make a big deal about it (or, indeed, mention it at all most of the time).

Where’d you hear rumors about Benjamin MacKenzie? I’m a huge O.C. fan and I’ve never heard that.

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**Post date:** [March 29, 2005, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-celebrities-are-homosexual-but-are-often-thought-not-to-be/295927/115 "2005-03-29T20:02:06Z")

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> [@shy guy](#):
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> Benjamin MacKenzie?

Well, he was spotted at a gay bar for a publicity thing.

> [@UGO](#):
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> —You want stars? How about OC hottie Benjamin Mackenzie, who stopped by the Queer Lounge on Wolfe Day with his castmates from the film JUNEBUG to do interviews.

[http://www.einsiders.com/iscoop/archive.php?archive=1107762945&subaction=list-archive&](http://www.einsiders.com/iscoop/archive.php?archive=1107762945&subaction=list-archive&)  
That may or may not mean anything. The article doesn’t say if he goes there in his spare time or not.

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**Post date:** [March 29, 2005, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-celebrities-are-homosexual-but-are-often-thought-not-to-be/295927/116 "2005-03-29T20:20:50Z")

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> [@Portia](#):
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> Here’s my take on the famous & gay website; I learned where the Merchant Ivory film company got its name. Good to know.

Alright, I’m hijacking this thread.

Where did the Merchant & Ivory Film Company get it’s name from?  
[/hijack]  
One that surprised me: Graham Chapman. You know. King Arthur and Bryan, the Messiah.

I was quite shocked.

I mean, I saw his pee pee on the Big Screen.

I was quite a moment for me.  
😃

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**Post date:** [March 29, 2005, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-celebrities-are-homosexual-but-are-often-thought-not-to-be/295927/117 "2005-03-29T20:21:24Z")

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> [@Bippy the Beardless](#):
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> b.t.w. my bet is on **Thje Rock** being gay (and the guy that was mentioned but not by name in the Kevin Smith article a few months ago).

The man that Kevin Smith was referring to is rumored to be **Vin Diesel** , and I’ve seen the rumor from other sources as well.

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**Post date:** [March 29, 2005, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-celebrities-are-homosexual-but-are-often-thought-not-to-be/295927/118 "2005-03-29T20:44:43Z")

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> [@Shirley Ujest](#):
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> Where did the Merchant & Ivory Film Company get it’s name from?

Producer [Ismael Merchant](http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0580337/) and director [James Ivory](http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0412465/).

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**Post date:** [March 29, 2005, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-celebrities-are-homosexual-but-are-often-thought-not-to-be/295927/119 "2005-03-29T21:29:28Z")

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If “Ismail Merchant” as the name of an Indian seems confusing – It’s not uncommon in Bombay’s Parsi (Zoroastrian) community to have English occupational names as family names – Merchant, Shipchandler, Symkhanawallah, Screwalla, Sodabottleopenerwala, etc. Many Parsi families didn’t start using family names until after contact with the English.

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**Post date:** [March 29, 2005, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-celebrities-are-homosexual-but-are-often-thought-not-to-be/295927/120 "2005-03-29T21:30:29Z")

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That should be “Gymkhanawallah.”

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