# What celebrities are known for being jerks(that are not named Chevy Chase)? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 4, 2020, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-celebrities-are-known-for-being-jerks-that-are-not-named-chevy-chase/919839 "2020-09-04T19:52:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-celebrities-are-known-for-being-jerks-that-are-not-named-chevy-chase/919839/381 "2025-01-28T23:06:54Z")
I missed that. Elaborate? ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-celebrities-are-known-for-being-jerks-that-are-not-named-chevy-chase/919839/382 "2025-01-28T23:12:27Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > As a Zappa fan I had to come to terms with him being an asshole long ago. Eh, depends who you ask. Some people who worked for him (e.g. Steve Vai, Pauline Butcher) have nothing but good things to say about him. Others didn’t like him. I’ve read a few books about him, and I don’t think I would classify him as a “jerk.” ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-celebrities-are-known-for-being-jerks-that-are-not-named-chevy-chase/919839/383 "2025-01-28T23:13:30Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Like I “remember” that Lily Tomlin stomped off and never came back for the rest of the episode, like, for reals. Apparently, that never happened You may be thinking of the time in the early '70s when Tomlin walked off of _The Dick Cavett Show_ after Chad Everett made a sexist comment. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Pu89uzk9D54/maxresdefault.jpg "Lily Tomlin WALKS OUT After Chad Everett's Sexist Remark! | The Dick Cavett Show") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu89uzk9D54&t=392/) ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-celebrities-are-known-for-being-jerks-that-are-not-named-chevy-chase/919839/384 "2025-01-28T23:21:14Z")
I’ve heard John Lydon (Johnny Rotten) is not the nicest guy. ---
**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-celebrities-are-known-for-being-jerks-that-are-not-named-chevy-chase/919839/385 "2025-01-28T23:21:21Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > I missed that. Elaborate? [Gene Simmons | Fresh Air Archive](https://freshairarchive.org/segments/gene-simmons) ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-celebrities-are-known-for-being-jerks-that-are-not-named-chevy-chase/919839/386 "2025-01-28T23:21:36Z")
By the way, the relevant portion of the clip begins at 6:25. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-celebrities-are-known-for-being-jerks-that-are-not-named-chevy-chase/919839/387 "2025-01-28T23:23:24Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > > [@Loach](#): > > > > As a Zappa fan I had to come to terms with him being an asshole long ago. > > Eh, depends who you ask. Some people who worked for him (e.g. Steve Vai, Pauline Butcher) have nothing but good things to say about him. Others didn’t like him. I’ve read a few books about him, and I don’t think I would classify him as a “jerk.” Well there is this book… > **[Book Review: Frank Zappa -- A Jerk of Genius - The Arts Fuse](https://artsfuse.org/208/a-jerk-of-genius/)** > > Veteran British journalist Barry Miles pens the definitive biography of irreverent rocker Frank Zappa. Zappa by Barry Miles. Grove Press By Milo Miles Veteran British journalist and biographer Barry Miles, who has specialized in the Beatles and the... ---
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> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > I’ve read a few books about him, and I don’t think I would classify him as a “jerk.” Complicated, is probably most accurate. He could be supportive and kind at times, but also a very deliberately contrarian asshole at others. He was a loving father, but not always a great one. A loving husband, but never a monogamous one (he seemed to draw a very hippie-like distinction between love and sex, which his wife did not appreciate). I read [Howard Kaylan’s](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Kaylan) biography who liked and looked up to him (and purportedly got him to smoke pot exactly once). But then five-time married Kaylan was himself a poster boy for infidelity. ---
**Author:** ![XOldiesJock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/ec9cab/32.png) [@XOldiesJock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XOldiesJock)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2025, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-celebrities-are-known-for-being-jerks-that-are-not-named-chevy-chase/919839/389 "2025-01-28T23:58:54Z")
I don’t mean for this to be a hijack, and if it is, delete it. That was an interesting Top 10 SNL Worst Guest Host list, and in some cases, it’s easy to see why the host just wasn’t going to work. Who couldn’t see that Michael Phelps was going to literally be a “fish out of water?” But has there ever been a case in which they realized by Wednesday or Thursday that the guest host was going to stink, gave them their walking papers and filled with someone else? There must have been, in 50 years. In Phelps case, why embarrass a guy who was clearly out of his element (H2O)? With all his accomplishments as an athlete, making a joke of himself on SNL must have stung. ---
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> [@XOldiesJock](#): > > But has there ever been a case in which they realized by Wednesday or Thursday that the guest host was going to stink, gave them their walking papers and filled with someone else? I don’t know, but sometimes they’ll bring in a ringer to back the host up. I remember a few years back Elton John (who cannot act) was the host, and somehow, “special guest” Tom Hanks ended up appearing in half the sketches and running away with them. I think Lorne has a bunch of guys - Hanks, Alec Baldwin, John Goodman, Christopher Walken, a few others - that he knows he can call on Friday to come save his show,. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-celebrities-are-known-for-being-jerks-that-are-not-named-chevy-chase/919839/391 "2025-01-29T00:33:57Z")
Buck Henry could always be counted on to come through. I wonder how many times he hosted. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-celebrities-are-known-for-being-jerks-that-are-not-named-chevy-chase/919839/392 "2025-01-29T00:40:36Z")
10 times in just about 4 years time. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-celebrities-are-known-for-being-jerks-that-are-not-named-chevy-chase/919839/393 "2025-01-29T00:52:28Z")
> [@XOldiesJock](#): > > Who couldn’t see that Michael Phelps was going to literally be a “fish out of water?” Some athletes have been surprisingly good as SNL hosts. Others, not so much. This article ranks Phelps #24 out of 30 of “Jock Hosts of SNL.” > **[30 Jock Hosts of ‘SNL’, Ranked](https://www.cracked.com/article_36661_30-jock-hosts-of-snl-ranked.html)** > > Meet the ballers of ‘SNL’ ---
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I bet there are just as many stories of people who they thought would suck and ended up surprising everyone and killing it. You never know ---
**Author:** ![XOldiesJock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/ec9cab/32.png) [@XOldiesJock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XOldiesJock)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-celebrities-are-known-for-being-jerks-that-are-not-named-chevy-chase/919839/395 "2025-01-29T01:03:06Z")
Some people who are not actors or comedians have surprised me. It’s always chancy when the musical guest is also the host, but one that was especially good was Billie Eilish. I’m rather ambivalent about her music but she was so good in the sketches and monologue that she could’ve been in the cast! And she was only 20 years old at the time. ---
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> [@hajario](#): > > I bet there are just as many stories of people who they thought would suck and ended up surprising everyone and killing it. You never know I remember when Brian Williams hosted in 2007. At the time, he was the anchor of NBC Nightly News but he was, I thought, pretty good. ---
**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-celebrities-are-known-for-being-jerks-that-are-not-named-chevy-chase/919839/397 "2025-01-29T01:40:07Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > [he was clean in real life note] (Frank Zappa) “Clean” but he was clearly addicted to nicotine and caffeine, both in mega doses. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-celebrities-are-known-for-being-jerks-that-are-not-named-chevy-chase/919839/398 "2025-01-29T02:48:04Z")
> [@XOldiesJock](#): > > Some people who are not actors or comedians have surprised me. It’s always chancy when the musical guest is also the host, but one that was especially good was Billie Eilish. I’m rather ambivalent about her music but she was so good in the sketches and monologue that she could’ve been in the cast! And she was only 20 years old at the time. Not the same thing but Timothée Chalamet was both the host and musical guest this week. He played a couple of Bob Dylan songs that nobody knows. He seems to have decent comedy chops but the material was very weak. ---
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Here is Al Franken discussing with Tom Segura how bad Steven Seagal was on Saturday Night Live: [https://youtu.be/L1G2ghhxYpE?si=7IFchH5bmQR1hyLL](https://youtu.be/L1G2ghhxYpE?si=7IFchH5bmQR1hyLL) . Whatever you may think of Franken, he worked there for on SNL for a long time, so he should know what a bad or good host is. `//i\\` ---
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Likewise Billy Bob Thornton and his sullen, non-responsive appearance on CBC Radio’s “Studio Q”: > **[The most painful interview of Billy Bob Thornton's life](https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/the-most-painful-interview-of-billy-bob-thorntons-life/)** > > 'Bad Santa' star Billy Bob Thornton formed the band The Boxmasters in 2007. During an interview, the star got hostile when his acting career was mentioned. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-celebrities-are-known-for-being-jerks-that-are-not-named-chevy-chase/919839.md?page=19) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-celebrities-are-known-for-being-jerks-that-are-not-named-chevy-chase/919839.md?page=21)