# What cities have airports within the city?

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [April 19, 2011, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-cities-have-airports-within-the-city/578985 "2011-04-19T18:52:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-cities-have-airports-within-the-city/578985/101 "2011-04-23T02:44:01Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Actually, that map proves nothing. According to it, McCarran might be in the city of Las Vegas, or it might not. Like so many urban/suburban areas, the core city limits are a lot smaller than the built-up area.

Not a square inch of McCarran is in Las Vegas. It’s in Paradise, NV.

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**Author:** ![Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/do_not_taunt/32/2968_2.png) [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-cities-have-airports-within-the-city/578985/102 "2011-04-23T05:43:40Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> Not to disparage the accuracy of wikipedia but  
> The address: 17801 International Blvd, Seattle as per Port of Seattle  
> I recall seeing a map online that had the city limits of Seattle following the 99 down to the airport.
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> I did send the question to the Port of Seattle to get a definitive answer.

Let me know what you hear back, but I don’t think that Port of Seattle necessarily equals City of Seattle.

FWIW, [here](http://clerk.ci.seattle.wa.us/~public/nmaps/fullcity.htm) is where the city of Seattle seems to think its borders are. Note that SeaTac (airport) is well south of this map, which you can see [here](http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=sea+tac+airport&aq=&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=30.875284,86.572266&ie=UTF8&hq=sea+tac+airport&hnear=Seattle-Tacoma+International+Airport+(SEA),+17801+International+Blvd,+Seattle,+Washington+98168&ll=47.443879,-122.301178&spn=0.411443,1.352692&z=10) is well southwest of the bottom of Lake Washington.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-cities-have-airports-within-the-city/578985/103 "2011-04-23T12:29:28Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Not a square inch of McCarran is in Las Vegas. It’s in Paradise, NV.

The part you quoted was me asserting that Snowboarder Bo’s cite was actually ambiguous on the point he claimed it made. Which it is. That part of my post makes no assertion about where McCarran actually is.

You did read the rest of my post where I said that McCarran is not within the City of Las Vegas, didn’t you?

FYI, Paradise is not actually an incorporated city. It’s simply the name for a census region within unincorporated Clark County. As I said. [Paradise, Nevada - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradise,_NV)

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-cities-have-airports-within-the-city/578985/104 "2011-04-23T12:52:40Z")

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Pisa airport is a twenty minute walk outside the city centre.

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-cities-have-airports-within-the-city/578985/105 "2011-04-23T13:37:59Z")

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Here in Adelaide South Australia the airport is right next to the city centre. I work in the middle of the CBD. The edge of the airport is about as far from my car park (on the edge of the CBD) as the length of the main runway.

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-cities-have-airports-within-the-city/578985/106 "2011-04-23T13:55:13Z")

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Worcester Regional Airport (ORH) in Worcester, Massachusetts

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-cities-have-airports-within-the-city/578985/107 "2011-04-23T14:01:45Z")

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Dayton, Ohio, is another place where the airport is within the city limits, but it is connected to the rest of the city by a thin strip along an interstate highway.

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**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-cities-have-airports-within-the-city/578985/108 "2011-04-26T13:02:42Z")

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Daegu International Airport is inside the Daegu (S. Korea) city limits. Seoul’s two airports, Gimpo and Incheon, are pretty far away. Not sure about Busan.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-cities-have-airports-within-the-city/578985/109 "2011-04-26T13:31:45Z")

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> [@Giles](#):
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> Yes, I’ve flow into and out of that old airport too. It would be a question of distance from the city centre. Where is the city centre in Hong Kong? If it’s the city hall, that’s on the other side of Victoria Harbour, about 5 kilometres from that airport in a straight line

“Within the city” is the OP subject. I don’t see why the City Hall comes into it. You can’t get much more ‘within the city’ than [flying in between the city buildings](http://www.mcnees.org/images/travel/img_trv_ap/img_kai_tak_airport.jpg). (Also the distance from the runway to Central is less than 2.5 miles - I just measured it on Gmaps.)

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**Author:** ![Askance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askance/32/8281_2.png) [@Askance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askance)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-cities-have-airports-within-the-city/578985/110 "2011-04-27T06:45:05Z")

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> [@Giles](#):
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> In Australia, the third busiest airport is within the city it serves (Brisbane), but the first two (Sydney and Melbourne) are not. That’s as a result of the cities of Sydney and Melbourne being small in area, and Brisbane being quite large.

Sydney airport is 8km (5 miles) from the CBD. Of major world cities I believe it has the closest major airport (London and Paris have “city airports” but they are minor league). So it rather depends on what the OP means by “city limits”; Sydney airport is unarguably [within the city of Sydney](http://maps.google.com.au/maps?oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:unofficial&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=mascot+airport&fb=1&gl=au&hq=mascot+airport&hnear=Sydney+New+South+Wales&ei=Wrq3TYW6O4HprAeAzYXdDQ&sa=X&oi=local_group&ct=image&resnum=4&ved=0CAQQtgMwAw) but not within the formal City of Sydney.

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**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2011, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-cities-have-airports-within-the-city/578985/111 "2011-05-04T19:30:29Z")

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> [@paperbackwriter](#):
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> Not to nitpick, but I think that’s stretching the definition of “within a city” just a bit. To the extent that Teterboro is part of the New York megalopolis, then maybe, but I wouldn’t call Teterboro itself a city. Boroughs in northern New Jersey are very small and it’s especially unlikely anyone would recognize Teterboro [(pop. 67)](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teterboro,_New_Jersey) as a city. Almost all of the borough _is_ Teterboro Airport.

But it’s called Teterboro Airport, and it is entirely within Teterboro. To nitpick would be to allow it… to apply practical use would result in your argument.

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**Post date:** [May 4, 2011, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-cities-have-airports-within-the-city/578985/112 "2011-05-04T19:55:45Z")

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> [@bibliophage](#):
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> Some cities that cover unusually large areas almost need to have their airports within the city limits to avoid being extremely inconvenient. Examples include Louisville KY (399 sq. mi.), Anchorage AK (1961 sq mi), Juneau AK (3255 sq mi), and Oklahoma City, OK (621 sq mi).

Ottawa, Ontario is another example at 1073 sq miles. I think the airport was within Ottawa before the 2001 amalgamation, but I’m not sure.

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**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2011, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-cities-have-airports-within-the-city/578985/113 "2011-05-04T20:03:58Z")

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> [@Askance](#):
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> Sydney airport is 8km (5 miles) from the CBD. Of major world cities I believe it has the closest major airport (London and Paris have “city airports” but they are minor league). So it rather depends on what the OP means by “city limits”; Sydney airport is unarguably [within the city of Sydney](http://maps.google.com.au/maps?oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:unofficial&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=mascot+airport&fb=1&gl=au&hq=mascot+airport&hnear=Sydney+New+South+Wales&ei=Wrq3TYW6O4HprAeAzYXdDQ&sa=X&oi=local_group&ct=image&resnum=4&ved=0CAQQtgMwAw) but not within the formal City of Sydney.

The OP talks about “airports within the city limits”. What are the “city limits” of Sydney apart from the boundaries of the City of Sydney? Sydney Airport is partly in two cities: the City of Botany Bay and the City of Rockdale. (The boundary between those cities follows the old course of the Cooks River, which was moved to make room for the airport.)

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**Author:** ![paperbackwriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@paperbackwriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paperbackwriter)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2011, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-cities-have-airports-within-the-city/578985/114 "2011-05-04T20:09:39Z")

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> [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](#):
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> But it’s called Teterboro Airport, and it is entirely within Teterboro. To nitpick would be to allow it… to apply practical use would result in your argument.

Since the question was, “what _cities_…” and Teterboro is not a city in either the legalistic nor conventional senses, I think it’s still a valid objection.

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**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2011, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-cities-have-airports-within-the-city/578985/115 "2011-05-04T20:11:27Z")

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> [@jjimm](#):
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> “Within the city” is the OP subject. I don’t see why the City Hall comes into it. You can’t get much more ‘within the city’ than [flying in between the city buildings](http://www.mcnees.org/images/travel/img_trv_ap/img_kai_tak_airport.jpg). (Also the distance from the runway to Central is less than 2.5 miles - I just measured it on Gmaps.)

Clearly the old Hong Kong airport is within the city: I was talking about distance from the city centre. I think there’s room for debate about where the city centre of Hong Kong is, but if you take it as Central – either the underground station or the city hall nearby – then I get a distance of about 6 km to the nearest part of the old airport on Google maps. The old terminal is a little further away than that.

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**Post date:** [May 4, 2011, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-cities-have-airports-within-the-city/578985/116 "2011-05-04T20:32:06Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> Chicago also had the small, primarily general-aviation Meigs Field within the city limits (it was right on the lakefront, just east of the Museum Campus), which had commercial (commuter airline) service, at least through the 1980s. In 2003, Mayor Daley had the runway at Meigs torn up in the middle of the night (after years of threatening to replace the airport with parkland).

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