Actually, no.
We are talking about low end jobs here. These guys make NOTHIHG profitable. All they do is flip burgers, push buttons, or otherwise do a small part of a larger job.
The only person who makes anything profitable is the owner. He is the only one who can not be replaced. Every other employee could be tossed out the door and replaced with another one. You seem to have the order of who needs who backwards.
Oh c’mon, Freedom, you know that’s not true.
He (or she) can go public, sell, take on a partner, or even die. The business can still go on. As long as it has a profitable workforce.
The owner fills a slot, just like anyone else in the company. If no one flips the burgers or pushes the buttons, the company will fold.
What is it, exactly, that makes you and some others seem to want certain people to be in dire straits? 
Peace,
mangeorge
What makes you some eager to strip away everyone’s freedoms to possibly benefit the less succesful memebrs of our society?
And could you please quote on thing I said that leads you to believe I want ANYONE in dire straits? I want everyone to have the same opportunity to walk away from any job and go start their own business.
In short, I want people to have FREEDOM.
Look at your statements, Freedom. They fairly drip with disdain for working people. Why?
Peace,
mangeorge
When I read this all I could think was:
“What a friggin moron.”
Then I thought for a second, remembered that his wasn’t the pit. Then I thought about how you don’t know me personally, so you would be unable to see how ridiculous this statement is.
I started working for a carpenter when I was 14. Since then I have worked in manual labor type industries. I did this in HS, I did htis in college, and I did it after college. I went from a $5/hr grunt lugging shingles up a ladder my first day to running my own company now.
I own the company. I work 6 days a week. I don’t own a multi-million dollar company. It is a rather small company on the scheme of things. I am one of the “working people.”
The difference between you and me is that I realize not all contributions are equal. I don’t think employees make a company profitable, they merely produce more than they are paid. Otherwise the employer could not keep them around.
Running a company is full of intangibles. You never get to say, “that’s not my job.” It is always your job. It is always your responsibility.
An owners living does not rely on an employee, however, the employees job does rely on the owner.
If anyone in my company thinks they should earn more, or that they are more important than I am, they have the right to leave and start their own company. They are free to do as they please.
My disdain is not for the working man, or even the employee. My disdain is for the people who demand things for no reason.
You DEMAND a living wage for example. Well who the hell is giving me my living wage? You DEMAND that owners share with their employees when there is extra money. I know you would scream, yell and throw a fit if I sent the employees a bill instead of a paycheck if I was having trouble paying the bills.
I’m a pretty nice guy. (no really I am, I promise 
) Our disagreement here is not the best way to treat people, but whether or not employers should be OBLIGATED to treat people the way you think is best. That is the best part of America. If your idea is better, then you will attract better employees, make more money, expand, attract attention and start a trend. America loves a winner. If an idea makes money then it catches on.
All in all I don’t think you are a moron, but I do think you guys have a slanted view of who actually own businesses and where they come from.
Main Entry: 1dis·dain
Pronunciation: dis-'dAn
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English desdeyne, from Old French desdeign, from desdeignier
Date: 14th century
: a feeling of contempt for what is beneath one : SCORN
If you didn’t make a profit from your employees, why would you bother to hire any? Especially in the trades, where the customer is billed directly for manhours?
It’s the workers who don’t make a profit. They’re paid for their time. employees are there for the same reason as the owners, to make money.
Anyway, my comment wasn’t directed solely at you, but at you and others who imply that workers are valueless.
So, what do you think of unions? 
Peace,
mangeorge
I’m going to guess that your smile means you know EXACTLY how I feel about unions.
You imply a moral judgement off the facts I argue.
A low end job is a low end job. Pretending it is some noble proffesion does not make it more important than it is. Go fire some guy at Burger King and see if the company folds.
Go to any small business, (they are really what we are talking about) and do the same thing. The owner will find a way to keep it going.
The moron thing was directed specifically at you :), but I did correct that. It was more a jugdement on my real life situation amd the statement that I have have disdain for the working man. (being one myself)
I don’t know what state you live in, but nobody around me bills directly for manhours except mechanics. You get what you can for the job and you pay what you can afford.
I never implied that workers are VALUELESS, only that they are less important to a company than the owner. More specifically I am talking about companies owned by a person not stockholders of a billion dollar corporation. But what is good for the goose is good for the gander. I don’t think we should have seperate standards for large and small companies.
That being said, Look at Gates, and the guy who started Amazon.com. How many jobs have these guys created? These companies depend highly on the creator of the business, not the employees. My point is that you could fire thousands of their employees and replace them with other ones and the company would go on. But if you knocked out the owner and threw some random guy in there, the company would fold overnight.