# What constitutes provoking. **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [February 8, 2010, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-constitutes-provoking/528135 "2010-02-08T13:49:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-constitutes-provoking/528135/21 "2010-02-08T19:36:53Z")
> [@Una\_Persson](#): > > FWIW I think that Ed and the Staff have taken the best possible course of action which they could do in this situation. I was just going to say the same thing. Sage solution. ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-constitutes-provoking/528135/22 "2010-02-08T19:40:43Z")
> [@Gfactor](#): > > For the sake of clarity, you aren’t allowed to Pit him for posting about pedophilia because he’s not allowed to talk about it anymore. You may Pit him for other activities and personality defects. If you see him posting in the future (i.e., with time stamps after the one on this post) about pedophilia the thing to do is report the post. > > And yes, I know about his posts in Pdoul’s thread. I’m going there next. You’re the mack daddy and the daddy mack, just for the record. He isn’t allowed to bring up his sickness in other threads so as far as I can see there’s no worrying about provoking him IMHO. STFU was all I personally wanted. ---
**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-constitutes-provoking/528135/23 "2010-02-08T20:36:29Z")
> [@twickster](#): > > After the events of the last few days, it’s hard to imagine that thread as being anything but an attack on him, so, yes, that would constitute provocation. Thanks. Just for the record, it was not my intention to start such a thread, but the idea immediately occurred to me on reading the ruling, and I thought an early disinterested question from someone who didn’t have a dog in the fight - me - and a ruling from the powers that be - that’s you, **twickster** , you’re a power that be - might prevent a further blowout. Not likely, but you never know. ---
**Author:** ![xash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/c6cbf5/32.png) [@xash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xash)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-constitutes-provoking/528135/24 "2010-02-08T21:01:24Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > …d not finishing sentences, leaving posters in suspense. **Fenris** , we strictly enforce the “no quote edits” rule. Please do not do this, even if the edit is minor, or in jest. Thanks. - **xash** Administrator ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-constitutes-provoking/528135/25 "2010-02-08T21:04:06Z")
> [@xash](#): > > **Fenris** , we strictly enforce the “no quote edits” rule. Please do not do this, even if the edit is minor, or in jest. > > Thanks. > > - **xash** > Administrator Actually, I believe **Fenris** quoted correctly(I saw the same quote), posted his addition to it, then the original post was corrected either at the same time or very shortly thereafter. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-constitutes-provoking/528135/26 "2010-02-08T21:04:13Z")
> [@xash](#): > > **Fenris** , we strictly enforce the “no quote edits” rule. Please do not do this, even if the edit is minor, or in jest. > > Thanks. > > - **xash** > Administrator **xash** , **Fenris** ’ quote was accurate as of the time of posting. The post being quoted has been amended. ETA: I hate you, **Czarcasm** ---
**Author:** ![srzss05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/898d66/32.png) [@srzss05](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/srzss05)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-constitutes-provoking/528135/27 "2010-02-08T21:06:14Z")
> [@xash](#): > > **Fenris** , we strictly enforce the “no quote edits” rule. Please do not do this, even if the edit is minor, or in jest. Did he edit the quote? I see Gfactor edited his post afterward, and just assumed Fenris posted before GFactor finished his edit. ETA: I hate both of you. (Czar and d\_odds) ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-constitutes-provoking/528135/28 "2010-02-08T21:11:00Z")
O I hate you all, okay? Except **Fennie**. ---
**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-constitutes-provoking/528135/29 "2010-02-08T21:11:07Z")
> [@xash](#): > > **Fenris** , we strictly enforce the “no quote edits” rule. Please do not do this, even if the edit is minor, or in jest. > > Thanks. > > - **xash** > Administrator Don’t you have something, you know, important to moderate? ---
**Author:** ![xash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/c6cbf5/32.png) [@xash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xash)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-constitutes-provoking/528135/30 "2010-02-08T21:54:39Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Actually, I believe **Fenris** quoted correctly(I saw the same quote), posted his addition to it, then the original post was corrected either at the same time or very shortly thereafter. > [@D\_Odds](#): > > **xash** , **Fenris** ’ quote was accurate as of the time of posting. The post being quoted has been amended. Ah, I didn’t realize that. My apologies to **Fenris**. Please ignore my note. Thanks. - **xash** Administrator ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-constitutes-provoking/528135/31 "2010-02-08T22:01:30Z")
> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > He isn’t allowed to bring up his sickness in other threads so as far as I can see there’s no worrying about provoking him IMHO. STFU was all I personally wanted. Seconded. Good job, mods, for a fair solution to a touchy situation. You’re like wise King Solomon, deciding how to best divide up a baby so that everyone gets some. [sub]That’s what that story is about, right?[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-constitutes-provoking/528135/32 "2010-02-08T23:39:20Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > Seconded. Good job, mods, for a fair solution to a touchy situation. You’re like wise King Solomon, deciding how to best divide up a baby so that everyone gets some. > > [sub]That’s what that story is about, right?[/sub] Jaysus **Giraffe** , could you please not use baby and getting some in the same sentence in this thread? ---
**Author:** ![BunnyTVS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BunnyTVS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BunnyTVS)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2010, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-constitutes-provoking/528135/33 "2010-02-09T01:36:26Z")
> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > Jaysus **Giraffe** , could you please not use baby and getting some in the same sentence in this thread? Agreed, next thing you know we’ll be talking about sending Valetine cards to 7year-olds. [Told ya so.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=551330) ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2010, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-constitutes-provoking/528135/34 "2010-02-09T02:07:21Z")
> [@BunnyTVS](#): > > Agreed, next thing you know we’ll be talking about sending Valetine cards to 7year-olds. > > [Told ya so.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=551330) I think you mean “friendship cards.” And it’s better than eating 13-year-old toast. Too old? ---
**Author:** ![Cesario](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@Cesario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cesario)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2010, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-constitutes-provoking/528135/35 "2010-02-09T03:39:21Z")
> [@tacoloco](#): > > In light of this from Ed: > > I’d like crystal clear clarification on what constitutes _provoking_. > > As it stands now, it seems to me that we can’t _pit_ him because if we do, it might _provoke_ him into saying something he shouldn’t. > > Is it really being put on the users here to make sure someone else doesn’t say something they shouldn’t. > > Can I or anyone else get the same protections? After all someome might _provoke_ me into breaking a rule around here. Oh, I wouldn’t worry about that rule, tacoloco. The moderators have made it quite clear they have no intention of enforcing it. I mean, when they’re letting people outright lie by declaring that I’ve admitted to molesting children while I’m barred from correcting them, it’s pretty hard to imagine what more “provocation” could be presented. So don’t worry, my hands are tied, feel free to go in for a kick with the other cowards. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2010, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-constitutes-provoking/528135/36 "2010-02-09T04:11:43Z")
As I came up, and based by your obviously-Catholic user name so did you, and we lived by the rule that to admit it was damned close to committing it. I grew up immersed in RC and temporal law. I cast them aside and aim what’s left at you. You tell me what you find attractive. I, as a father of daughters who could easily be sons, and will be for the rest of this debate, find you a sickening leftover of what all Christians found perverse decades ago. All you have managed was a temporary reprochment between British soldiers and their French brothers. ---
**Author:** ![xash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/c6cbf5/32.png) [@xash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xash)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2010, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-constitutes-provoking/528135/37 "2010-02-09T04:12:25Z")
If you see any transgression of the new rules, please report it using the “Report Post” feature. The OP has been asked and answered. This is closed. - **xash** Administrator ---
**Author:** ![Ed\_Zotti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/fbc32d/32.png) [@Ed\_Zotti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ed_Zotti)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2010, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-constitutes-provoking/528135/38 "2010-02-09T04:43:41Z")
> [@Cesario](#): > > Oh, I wouldn’t worry about that rule, tacoloco. The moderators have made it quite clear they have no intention of enforcing it. > > I mean, when they’re letting people outright lie by declaring that I’ve admitted to molesting children while I’m barred from correcting them, it’s pretty hard to imagine what more “provocation” could be presented. > > So don’t worry, my hands are tied, feel free to go in for a kick with the other cowards. [QUOTE=dropzone] You tell me what you find attractive. I, as a father of daughters who could easily be sons, and will be for the rest of this debate, find you a sickening leftover of what all Christians found perverse decades ago. [/quote] > [@dhkendall](#): > > Well, as best I can tell from all this (granted, haven’t seen the posting history of both of them), both pduol and Caesario have admitted to being pedophiles, the difference is that pduol has said he has never acted on that attraction, and Caesario said he had. (The last was from the “I am not a monster” Pit thread.) We’ve had enough of this. I call the attention of all users to the following: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12090763&postcount=347](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12090763&postcount=347) To repeat: 1. Cesario is not to post about pedophilia. 2. Other users are not to bait Cesario, or make accusations about him to which he cannot respond. If you see apparent violations of the above, use the “report this post” feature to notify the mods. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-constitutes-provoking/528135.md?page=1)