# What Countries Are You Favourable To?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-countries-are-you-favourable-to/575271>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [March 19, 2011, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-countries-are-you-favourable-to/575271 "2011-03-19T19:14:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2011, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-countries-are-you-favourable-to/575271/61 "2011-03-21T15:26:31Z")

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> [@Floater](#):
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> The last time I saw it on a map the Indian subcontinent was indeed part of Asia. 😉

In Barry Cunliffe’s excellent [Europe Between The Oceans, 9000 BC-AD 1000](http://www.amazon.com/Europe-Between-Oceans-9000-BC-AD/dp/0300119232/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1300720226&sr=1-4), he repeatedly calls Europe a “subcontinent.” Which is actually is!

Of course, what people want to be called should be respected. In Texas, we call people from That Other Subcontinent “South Asians” & they don’t seem to mind. (They often use “Desis.”)

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**Suggestions to the OP:** “Favourable” is the British usage; it’s also favored in certain ex-colonies, but not in California. You seem to idealize The British Empire; do you realize the sahibs would feel you were beneath them, since you have Asian blood? Two more:

[ul]  
[li]Read more Kipling. Read him in depth. Yes, he favored The Empire. But he was a complex, intelligent & well-travelled man; hardly simplistic. [/li]  
[li]Read [G K Chesterton](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._K._Chesterton). An Englishman writing in your favorite/favourite era, he converted to Roman Catholicism. Again, those halcyon days at the turn of the last century contain more than you have yet learned.[/li][/ul]

Both authors are liberally represented at [Project Gutenberg](http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Main_Page).

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2011, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-countries-are-you-favourable-to/575271/62 "2011-03-21T17:21:14Z")

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> [@flodnak](#):
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> Experts, schmexperts. The people who actually live in the countries involved never include Scandinavia as part of Finland. It’s Nordic, but not Scandinavian.

Similarly, many Americans do not think of themselves as “Yankees,” but to most people outside the USA, all Americans are “Yankees.”

It’s English; words have different meanings. “Scandinavian” varies in meaning depending on the speaker and context. Geographically, it’s reasonable to define Finland as being Scandinavian; “Nordic” is a bit more accurate but close enough. But if someone calls Finnish a Scandinavian language, they are just flat out wrong.

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**Author:** ![Spiny\_Norman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@Spiny\_Norman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiny_Norman)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2011, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-countries-are-you-favourable-to/575271/63 "2011-03-26T02:51:00Z")

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> [@SeldomSeen](#):
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> And they’ve been PO’d about it ever since…
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> _“Ten thousand Swedes fled through the weeds  
> Persued by one Norwegian.  
> Ten thousand more ran for the shore  
> At the battle of Copenhagen…”_

I don’t know that one… Source?

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**Author:** ![NetTrekker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nettrekker/32/2909_2.png) [@NetTrekker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NetTrekker)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2011, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-countries-are-you-favourable-to/575271/64 "2011-03-26T04:46:16Z")

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Slovenia, Nepal, South Korea, Tahiti and the Galapagos Islands of Ecuador are places I would like to visit.

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**Author:** ![Norse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a9adbd/32.png) [@Norse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Norse)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2011, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-countries-are-you-favourable-to/575271/65 "2011-03-26T17:36:56Z")

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> [@flodnak](#):
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> The people who actually live in the countries involved never include Scandinavia as part of Finland. It’s Nordic, but not Scandinavian.

[The cartoon version](http://satwcomic.com/how-the-north-works)

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**Author:** ![SeldomSeen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ba0ec/32.png) [@SeldomSeen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeldomSeen)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2011, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-countries-are-you-favourable-to/575271/66 "2011-03-26T19:18:26Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Originally Posted by SeldomSeen  
> And they’ve been PO’d about it ever since…
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> “Ten thousand Swedes fled through the weeds  
> Persued by one Norwegian.  
> Ten thousand more ran for the shore  
> At the battle of Copenhagen…”

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> I don’t know that one… Source?

I don’t really know the source, it’s an old doggerel said to have originated with lumberjacks of Norwegian heritage in the North Woods. Apparently the was a bit of racial one-upmanship among those old boys. I’ve heard the verse refers to events at the assault of Copenhagen ca. 1659, but don’t know the historical details.  
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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2011, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-countries-are-you-favourable-to/575271/67 "2011-03-26T20:26:31Z")

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> [@spark240](#):
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> Canada’s a great country, no doubt, call it number one if you like, but it doesn’t have everything the USA has.

Yeah! For one thing, it doesn’t have that enormous chip on its shoulder about being number one!

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**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2011, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-countries-are-you-favourable-to/575271/68 "2011-03-26T20:35:25Z")

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> [@Knorf](#):
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> Yeah! For one thing, it doesn’t have that enormous chip on its shoulder about being number one!

Are you kidding? Canadians are the biggest chippy shoulderers I know. There are exceptions, but it seems like as a general rule, you can’t even have a conversation with a Canadian without them reminding you that they’re Canadian and not American and Canada is different (and better!!!) than the US every ten seconds. And Canadians know about American history but Americans don’t know anything about Canada!

Etc.

Good lord, it’s boring.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2011, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-countries-are-you-favourable-to/575271/69 "2011-03-26T20:39:23Z")

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> [@Kyla](#):
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> Are you kidding? Canadians are the biggest chippy shoulderers I know.

Nah.

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**Author:** ![Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/do_not_taunt/32/2968_2.png) [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2011, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-countries-are-you-favourable-to/575271/70 "2011-03-27T23:37:13Z")

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Peru, Cuba, Laos, Iran, Iraq, Oman, Chad, Mali, Fiji, Togo… You know, countries that don’t feel like they have to be letter hogs.

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**Author:** ![GoodOmens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@GoodOmens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GoodOmens)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-countries-are-you-favourable-to/575271/71 "2011-03-28T02:04:29Z")

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I love my home, the USA, though often in the way that I love an overly large, often stupid but adorable dog. I hold very positive feelings toward England (both because they’re arguably the US’s closest allies as well as having friends there), Canada and Australia–the usual suspects. Also Japan and Iceland, the last for no particular reason except for a general impression of awesomeness, and Bjork.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-countries-are-you-favourable-to/575271/72 "2011-03-28T02:43:10Z")

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> [@Kyla](#):
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> Are you kidding? Canadians are the biggest chippy shoulderers I know. There are exceptions, but it seems like as a general rule, you can’t even have a conversation with a Canadian without them reminding you that they’re Canadian and not American and Canada is different (and better!!!) than the US every ten seconds. And Canadians know about American history but Americans don’t know anything about Canada!

Easy solution. Surprise them. Learn about Canada and Canadian history, and use it the next time you get into conversation with a Canadian:

Canadian: We burned the White House in the War of 1812. Nyah.

You: Well actually, the burning of the White House was caused by British, not Canadian, soldiers. And we got the better of you–well, maybe the British, who were supposed to be representing you–in the 1903 Hay-Herbert Treaty, which fixed the Alaska-Canada boundary.

They won’t be expecting this level of knowledge from an American, and will consequently shut up, not knowing what else to do. Don’t know why this isn’t obvious, actually. 😃

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**Author:** ![Susanann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ab992/32.png) [@Susanann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Susanann)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-countries-are-you-favourable-to/575271/73 "2011-03-28T03:41:43Z")

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> [@Kyla](#):
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> … And Canadians know about American history but Americans don’t know anything about Canada!  
> .

That is not true. We Americans know all aboot Canada, we all saw \*\*Canadian Bacon \*\*which told us everything we need to know about Canada.

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**Author:** ![KinkiNipponTourist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e9bcb4/32.png) [@KinkiNipponTourist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KinkiNipponTourist)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-countries-are-you-favourable-to/575271/74 "2011-03-28T04:36:28Z")

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> [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](#):
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> Peru, Cuba, Laos, Iran, Iraq, Oman, Chad, Mali, Fiji, Togo.. You know, countries that don’t feel like they have to be letter hogs.

Did you by any chance get that list from [here](http://www.mentalfloss.com/quiz/quiz.php?q=1116)? 😃

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-countries-are-you-favourable-to/575271/75 "2011-03-28T04:53:18Z")

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> [@Susanann](#):
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> That is not true. We Americans know all aboot Canada, we all saw \*\*Canadian Bacon \*\*which told us everything we need to know about Canada.

“Aboot” and Canadian bacon - the two things that US Americans always get wrong about Canada. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Rodgers01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b19c9b/32.png) [@Rodgers01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rodgers01)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-countries-are-you-favourable-to/575271/76 "2011-03-28T05:07:32Z")

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> [@Kyla](#):
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> Are you kidding? Canadians are the biggest chippy shoulderers I know. There are exceptions, but it seems like as a general rule, you can’t even have a conversation with a Canadian without them reminding you that they’re Canadian and not American and Canada is different (and better!!!) than the US every ten seconds. And Canadians know about American history but Americans don’t know anything about Canada!
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> Etc.
> 
> Good lord, it’s boring.

Seconded. It’s a fine country in many ways, but _lord_ do they have a superiority complex, particularly if an American is within 50 feet. It’s obnoxious and, IMHO, rather psychologically unhealthy.

ETA: In re. countries I’m “favorable” to…: just about any could qualify, but I’m particularly fond of the UK, Germany, Poland, Romania, the Philippines, Hong Kong, Macau, Argentina, Brazil. Lots more, but those are the first that come to mind.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-countries-are-you-favourable-to/575271/77 "2011-03-28T05:54:00Z")

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Do you suppose there’s any truth to the idea that what US Americans see as a superiority complex might be a, “Not thinking we’re as great as we do” complex? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/do_not_taunt/32/2968_2.png) [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2011, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-countries-are-you-favourable-to/575271/78 "2011-03-29T03:37:04Z")

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> [@KinkiNipponTourist](#):
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> Did you by any chance get that list from [here](http://www.mentalfloss.com/quiz/quiz.php?q=1116)? 😃

Not directly - it’s a pretty common geography quiz type question..

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**Author:** ![medicated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@medicated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/medicated)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2011, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-countries-are-you-favourable-to/575271/79 "2011-03-29T03:48:35Z")

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I like the Belgians. They spend a lot of time (recently, at least) agonising over their inability to form a stable government. And yet the country runs just fine without one.

Also: the food is great, the beer rocks, and the architecture is often very interesting. Ignoring the concrete monstrosities found in certain parts of Brussels, of course.

I also am impressed with Liechtenstein, Andorra, and Monaco. That a state managed to survive in Europe for several centuries with an army smaller than my local police force impresses me. And all three have such beautiful scenery…

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**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2011, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-countries-are-you-favourable-to/575271/80 "2011-03-29T04:07:54Z")

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When I lived in the quiet rural Fenlands on the coast of the Wash (England) for several months years ago I said to my self that it might be a good idea to retire here. I still won’t rule it out. People were so laid back.

On the other hand, I’ve always had a hankering to live in the States especially San Diego or Hawaii and experience the fast pace of American life.

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