You don’t measure it. You talk from experience. Nothing here is fact, it is all just opinion.
This thread is almost drowning in whooshes, super-whooshes, and, uh, sub-whooshes. Misinterpretation everywhere…
Of course, I have my finger on who’s being silly and who’s being sincere. I’m like the Santa Claus of sarcasm.
I’m going to skip over such an easy opportunities for a sarcastic responses.
I have had the pleasure of traveling over a lot of the world. I’ve not yet been to continental Europe, Africa, or the Mid-East, but I’ve covered much of the rest. My experience has been that some level of discrimination exists everywhere, not by everyone, but in every location. Some of it is positive, some is negative, and some is so subtle that I wonder if perhaps I am being discriminatory.
Some background: I am of mostly northern European descent, 6’6" tall, 235#, middle aged, and US citizen. In Asian countries, it is difficult for me to blend in. I don’t try. This attracts assumptions, specifically from scam artists. The assumption is that I may have lots of money (I don’t), I am gullible (I may be), and the Tik Tik driver can suck more money out of me than from a local. Is this prejudice, or just playing the odds?
In some locales, I get preferential treatment because they really want me to return and bring my friends. Again? Prejudice, or marketing?
Short of violence and hate crimes, prejudice is a tricky thing to measure. I don’t know how to compare one place against another. Someone much smarter than me would need to do the analysis. There are too many variables in the equation.
I thought the OP was joking a bit here because, you know, Russia is part of Asia.
I could be wrong, though. Wouldn’t be the first time.
About the Asians, not at all. If I had to produce a racist rant by tomorrow, my best bet would be to send a Korean girl home to her immigrant dad with her new black “boyfriend”. A buddy of mine caused havoc in his girlfriend’s Korean household by being white in America. My Asian students agree with me.
Ah, you meant that Russia is part of Asia.
I was using the common “race” usage of, “you know, the more brown people with the eyefold.”
Of course – but, even though a large chunk of Russia is in Asia, I tend to think of it as more European than Asian. So, if that was supposed to be the joke, it went right over my head
If I would have just said the Asian nations, no one would have thought about Russia.
Should I have said China/Japan/North and South Korea instead? On second thought, “Eastern Asian nations” might have done the trick. Too late now though.
I wasn’t joking. The OP is completely serious.
Except that it isn’t.
Part of Russia - the part east of the Urals - is part of Asia.
Speaking of Brazil, I was in Sao Paolo this past January and I remember walking through the park with my dad and I think this guy was selling something (folk medicine?) and a crowd was gathering so we looked to see what the fuss about. I gathered that he was describing the benefits his product, then recognized the word “Japones” (Japanese, I’m Korean but the majority of Asians in Brazil are Japanese) and then he pulled up the sides of his eyes (to make slanty eyes) and gestured towards us, much to the delight of the crowd. Don’t know if that’s racist, or a joke in poor taste or whatever but just thought I’d throw that out there. I did see a lot of interracial couples though, including combinations that are less frequent in the US (Black female + nonblack male, Asian male + nonasian female).
The Vatican.
I’ve had teachers who insisted Russia was an Asian country, not a European one, and that Moscow was an Asian city. I’ve never bought into that, though. I’ll always think of Russia as European despite its massive Asian landholdings.
You’re not kidding. I’ve often thought China, Japan and Korea were locked in a struggle to see who can be the most racist. Even Thailand, despite all the good things about it, is a very racist country. They treat neighbors and hilltribes abominably. And it’s always interesting to hear what they say behind those smiles when I pretend not to understand Thai, hehehe.
Moving this finger-pointing party disguised as a poll from IMHO to Great Debates.
I’ve experienced plenty of both. Koreans talk crap about foriegners to their face and obviously don’t bother to modulate their voices because they figure no one around them gives a crap. I distinctly remember this one time - I must have been around 15 - I was with my mom on the subway, and we were sitting next to this American woman with three children. The Koreans standing in front of us were talking loudly in Korean about the American family - I can’t remember exactly what, but they were being very obnoxious about it, to the point where even the American family could tell the general gist of their comments without understanding the language. My mom was pissed, but she handled it by turning to the American woman and striking up a conversation with some compliment about one of the kids. The Koreans in front of us looked a bit ashamed of themselves, as they should have.
On the other hand, I’ve also dealt with foreigners saying insulting things about the Koreans around them, obviously thinking no one is going to understand English well enough to care.
People are idiots all over the place.
Rather than the smallest population, how about the most downtrodden? I’m thinking Cambodia here. They have been crushed and brutalized for so many centuries, by West and East alike – it virtually disappeared at one point after Thailand and Vietnam carved up what they wanted – that regardless of blips like the Khmer Rouge, the Cambodians are possibly the nicest and gentlest people I’ve ever personally encountered. They’re so used to being victims that they have a real inferiority complex. The same to some extent with Laos.
Very good. It took me a moment to figure out what you were on about with the “bladder control”.
And for the record - Africa is the continent, South Africa is the country, BUT South America is not a country - don’t get confused now.
Slightly off topic, but it always amuses and depresses me when I run into Americans who are convinced that racism is dead in America. America, really, is just as racist as any other place I’ve been in the world. And a little more annoying about its racism, too, because it’s not quite out in the open.
What’s perhaps even more annoying is the stereotype of the racist South, when, from my experience up North, people there were just as racist if not more! People in the South, I think, watch their behaviors and their tongue because of the stereotype. The people I met in New York, on the other hand, had their superiority complex on this issue blind them to their prejudices.
And for the record, I’ve run into a lot of such people.
On topic, the country with the least amount of racism is probably… Hmmm… I really can’t think of an example of a place with significantly less racism than any other place.
In no way am I part of the Russia/Asia whooshing sub-thread in this thread. I thought the OP was a whoosh because usually, when someone starts off by saying “Most foreigners I know…” and then completes the sentence with a fairly outrageous claim about the “foreigners,” it turns out to be a whoosh. That’s all.
I can’t believe this has been moved to GD.
Cambodian people are great. I have been there 3 times. My wife is Cambodian. many Cambodians though do not really like their neighbourslink
. I am surprised you would not realise that. You live in Thailand?
It’s not Cameroon. I once had a dude walk up to me on the street and say “Oh man, I don’t like Vietnamese people.”
Now this guy has probably only met a handful of white people in his life. There are a few Chinese doctors in town. That’s it for diversity. I can promise you this man has never been with a hundred miles of a Vietnamese person.
I asked him “Why?” and he said it’s because the Vietnamese are hard-headed.
Ooookay.