# What culinary delight did I re-invent?  (meat and bread)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 20, 2016, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-culinary-delight-did-i-re-invent-meat-and-bread/763362 "2016-08-20T00:05:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2016, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-culinary-delight-did-i-re-invent-meat-and-bread/763362/21 "2016-08-21T21:23:05Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> But what I posted was _“It’s sort of like Yorkshire pudding.”_

Almost, but not quite, entirely unlike [del]tea[/del] Yorkshire pudding. 😃

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2016, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-culinary-delight-did-i-re-invent-meat-and-bread/763362/22 "2016-08-21T21:36:42Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> You say that like it’s a bad thing.

Grease bread, mmmmmmmmmmmm! :o

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**Author:** ![Barking\_Dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Barking\_Dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barking_Dog)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2016, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-culinary-delight-did-i-re-invent-meat-and-bread/763362/23 "2016-08-21T22:58:50Z")

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Sounds a bit like a bread trencher, except not used as a serving dish. Actually, that sounds like a great way to serve your meatloaf now!

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**Author:** ![Barking\_Dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Barking\_Dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barking_Dog)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2016, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-culinary-delight-did-i-re-invent-meat-and-bread/763362/24 "2016-08-21T23:01:09Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> The closest equivalent I can think of to what the OP describes is the mediaeval dish/side known as “[sops](http://www.innatthecrossroads.com/2014/12/15/fruity-sops/)” - usually referring to toast with some sort of sauce, soup or gravy poured over it, but the actual ME word “soppe” just [means](http://www.thefreedictionary.com/sop) “bread soaked in liquid” so what **Chronos** describes would fit the bill.

So, does that mean biscuits and gravy is a medieval dish in fact, instead of a southern one?

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2016, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-culinary-delight-did-i-re-invent-meat-and-bread/763362/25 "2016-08-21T23:39:17Z")

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The basic idea is ancient (far older than medieval), but Southern Americans refined and perfected it.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2016, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-culinary-delight-did-i-re-invent-meat-and-bread/763362/26 "2016-08-22T06:03:02Z")

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> [@Barking\_Dog](#):
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> So, does that mean biscuits and gravy is a medieval dish in fact, instead of a southern one?

Naah, [quick breads](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quick_bread)like biscuits are a distinctly recent innovation.

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